Abyssea Discussion

[noodles355]

Has anyone with a moutain of cruor (failure etc) got the time extention yet and can confirm how long it is?

[drwaffles]

By the way, from the dozen or so I've fought, every Limule has been fire-based, and every Clionid has been water-based. Has anyone experienced otherwise? It seemed whenever a Limule was Ephemeral, it was glowing red with fire, and when a Clionid was Ephemeral, it was bubbling with water.

I can't remember the specific names of each, but I've fought fire-, water-, light-, dark- and ice-based Clionids/Limules.

[MindGazer]

Hopefully today we'll be entering, with an hour and a half to our name. I still want to figure out where the spot is to get the key item for Gift of Light, as I'd like to get this quest done.

It's at J-6/K-6 along the northern side of the southern ravine. It's a targeted spot called Jagged Cliff (can't be dusk/night or it won't activate).

It's a mini game where you get 3 chances to grab the item. I haven't gotten the timing down yet (reminds me of that one Cait Sith mission). I failed but when I returned to Amaura I got a miniscule Cruor reward (like 19 i think) and the quest marked itself complete. I tried again today (still failed the timing lol) and got the miniscule reward again.

I'm guessing it might be repeatable every RL day, unless it goes away when you actually win the mini game.

[krizz]

It is. You have to run down into the canyon to get to it.

Thank you very much. I wasted 30 minutes of my 90 minutes in zone on Thursday looking at H-11 where it was marked before.

[Logiks]

Hey, sorry if it was mentioned but I ran a brief search and nothing turned up. I've got a Rotting Eyeball to pop an NM Treant in Konshat and was wondering if anyone had any information on the NM or what it drops? Thank you

[Squall]

A little bit of (having skimmed the thread, appears somewhat new) information from Abyssea-La Theine.

Popped La Theine Liege (Damselfly) using a transparent insect wing. Uses Aeroga III and Venom (did not see Cursed Sphere in two kills) - dropped Sharpeye Mantle twice (Accuracy+12, Subtle Blow-6).

Then, using key items from La Theine Liege (pellucid fly eye) and Baba Yaga (shimmering pixie pinion), popped Carabosse (pixie) at H-7. Fight takes two stages: first stage, mostly uses pixie 'arrow' attacks and enfeebles such as Slowga until it uses Benediction (40k in our case). Defense and MDef then upped considerably, and AoE move Cyclonic Turmoil added to repertoire. Also now uses 'nasty' AoE enfeebles such as Breakga, and casts single target tier 2 enfeebles: Slow II, Paralyze II seen. Suggest at least one hour for this boss and ranged DDs (RNG, SMN), rather like low-man Verthandi.

[Rocl]

HQ Clionid Wing pops Halimede. Tried w/ 12 and it took nearly the whole 30 minutes. He was rough. Whenever it TP'd, it'd do the same move twice in succession. At low HP it did Chainspell and spammed waterga3/blizzaga3. Gully Clionids nearby will wander close enough to the ??? to link, and they were all IT to 80 when we were there. Was not expecting that sort of fight at all, lol. Dropped shriveled wing only.

[Darkmagi]

A little bit of (having skimmed the thread, appears somewhat new) information from Abyssea-La Theine.

Popped La Theine Liege (Damselfly) using a transparent insect wing. Uses Aeroga III and Venom (did not see Cursed Sphere in two kills) - dropped Sharpeye Mantle twice (Accuracy+12, Subtle Blow-6).

Then, using key items from La Theine Liege (pellucid fly eye) and Baba Yaga (shimmering pixie pinion), popped Carabosse (pixie) at H-7. Fight takes two stages: first stage, mostly uses pixie 'arrow' attacks and enfeebles such as Slowga until it uses Benediction (40k in our case). Defense and MDef then upped considerably, and AoE move Cyclonic Turmoil added to repertoire. Also now uses 'nasty' AoE enfeebles such as Breakga, and casts single target tier 2 enfeebles: Slow II, Paralyze II seen. Suggest at least one hour for this boss and ranged DDs (RNG, SMN), rather like low-man Verthandi.

Drops? Or did you wipe/time out?

[Squall]

Drops? Or did you wipe/time out?

Time out, but really a wipe, as we'd got ourselves into a messy situation kiting the mob around the lake. Incidentally, does not link with the other pixies nearby.

[urat]

Did an hour and a half run last night in la theine, started by trying to take down Marvin.

Pop times look to be about 3~5 mins in abyssea, and everytime they repop they seem to level up. Checked a group we hadnt killed and one we had killed twice, scale went from tough to VT to IT, my guess is when left to sit around the mobs will slowly degrade back to a base level around the VT~T marker for 75s.

BEES AGGRO just an fyi for those who are trying la theine first time. If you arent careful on that group you can very quickly find yourself surrounded by 5~6 VTish bees.

Spent most of the run using a ranger to widescan the epheremeal mobs and killing them. Averaged roughly 100 crour and 250 limits each. Managed to build up 800 crour by the time we ran by the #8 conflux on the way to the others.

Also, if you exit with time left over on your character, then go and get more stones later and come back, the time gets compounded.

Therefor just because you are at 3 stones does not mean you cant keep stacking time. Im not sure if there's a hard coded limit on time but I had over 100 minutes when I added my 3 stones on top of some time from a previous run.

[Fou-Lu]

Protip - Dont even go NEAR prepopped chests...they are mimics and they will aggro
They will also ruin your shit by spamming 10 second stuns

[Shenrien]

Protip - Dont even go NEAR prepopped chests...they are mimics and they will aggro
They will also ruin your shit by spamming 10 second stuns, with a radius of 20'

added more truth <_<

[Gwynplaine]

Then, using key items from La Theine Liege (pellucid fly eye) and Baba Yaga (shimmering pixie pinion), popped Carabosse (pixie) at H-7.

Hey some info that was posted to wiki is wrong. I'm acting surprised!

[Flippant]

This isn't about the old OAT trials really, these are new trials. Not to mention they require FIVE times as many items from a zone you can visit for 30 minutes each day.

Because from the .DAT list of the only other new EX-only items, Carabosse's Gem is in there. From what I gethered, Carabosse is a Tier-1 VNM. Yes, a T1 with drops. Unless that was false data, that would suggest that there are other T1s with ex drops used for other Empyrean Weapon trials.

Carabosse information:
- Requires Key Item Clear Demuline Abyssite Obtained from a Cruor Prospectorfor 300 Cruor.
- Hides like VNM's do in the Present so you need to /Heal on top of them to pop it.
- Unknown if it gives position like VNM Abyssite does.
- Because it pops in Abyssea - La Theine there is a 30 minute time limit on the fight.
- Gem drop rate unknown at this time. required for Great Katana Trial 1555: Carabosse's gems x50.

If that is true, chances are, H2H/polearm/axe trials would need an item of equal value from an equally easy-to-pop VNM. Therefore, Chloris is most likely a T1 VNM.

I didn't quite catch it other than Hungerer, are the T1 Abyssea VNMs around the same difficulty as the original T1s? Or are they only solo-able by mages and thair shenanigans?

I'm was just confused where you got your information that it was a T1 pop. If anything, I would've guessed T3 because of both pattern and difficulty. Apparently, we were both wrong anyway. But just because 50 drop doesn't mean they're going to be easy to get. These trials are obviously only going to get harder (and more annoying) each update (as the DMG/OAT ones continue anyway).

[Cairthenn]

Based on that, Chloris will be popped using:

A ??? requiring key items, overgrown mandragora flower , and chipped sandworm tooth is at (F-5).

[orson]

Protip - Dont even go NEAR prepopped chests...they are mimics and they will aggro
They will also ruin your shit by spamming 10 second stuns

This isn't quite true there is only a chance that it will be a mimic. I've gotten 200 cruor from a pre-popped chest. I wish I had SSed but I didn't think to do so. Granted if the odds of getting a mimic are even like 25% it seems like it's probably not worth it.

I suppose what you could do is have a person (probably best to get a Smn) drop party check to see if it's a mimic. A smn can probably do the deaggro trick like in golden salvage. If the person dies it could suck but if there are large rewards from the chests it might be worth it.

[Gwynplaine]

Someone on FFXIAH has reported getting a Forbidden Key item drop off an enemy. He claims that it opens dropped chests.

[Dooom]

Someone on FFXIAH has reported getting a Forbidden Key item drop off an enemy. He claims that it opens dropped chests.

We just had one drop off a normal Qutrub in Tahronghi [A].

[orson]

I wonder if it's like regular dungeon coffers. It would make sense a key would prevent a mimic from spawning.

[urat]

Get key, peer in chest until you find chest with large amount of crour, open it with key, get more crour then you spent on key, rinse and repeat?