Abyssea Discussion

[FailureMidgard]

So, got significantly less Cruor today, but again our primary goal wasn't to farm it. We got maybe ~3500-4k today, left with 10minutes remaining (of 90). We got significantly less lucky on Cruor chests today, felt like almost every single 1 was a HP restore or temp item. Still got a couple (and 1 800 cruor chest at least) and some decent Exp chests, but the numbers I said before must be upper-end, lucky chest drops.

We finished a popset for the Gigas NM, will pop it next time we go in (maybe Tuesday?).

Will be buying the time extension in ~30min, will edit this post and add information.

[Cantih]

So, just finished a run. Previously I'd been duoing with a friend, this time we went in with 4, and it's a good thing. We went in just after BG had finished a run, and the mobs we normally fought were MUCH tougher than usual.

What camps did you guys fight at this run?
Me and my friend generally stuck to the West Clionid camp. I don't THINK you guys would have bothered with that spot, so wondering if all mobs got boosted, it was some other bunch even earlier, or it's based on group size, or something else entirely.

[Laynton]

Did A-Konst. to day with rdm(me), brd, blmx6. was first run for most of us so we explored a bit to begin with. We ended up killing puddings for the last 45min and got pretty decent xp/cou. When we where fight puddings a yellow/orange NM pudding named Guimauve popped up and we decided to fight it. bad idea.
was resistant if not immune to gravity, had super super fast running speed, used sleepga, graviga, and a couple others. We would have gotten our asses handed to us just by this NM alone but then we started kiting it North and ran into Fistule. A giant red slime that is untargetable and didnt agro us at all at anytime earlier...until we kited Guimauve over towards it. Then we really awoke the beast and handed our asses to us really really fast lol.

I forgot to take ss of chat log but 1 thing i remember was that Fistule used a move called Dissolve that took Hp from every target in the area around it. It wont take Hp from anyone/anything if it doesnt have HP to replenish. and yes anyone/anything means players and mobs alike. As we were kiting it the smaller NM, Guimauve just dropped dead for some reason. I looked back at chat log and saw that the Dissolve ability from Fistule hit Guimauve for 0 dmg right before it died. Whether that actually killed it or you only have a certain amount of time to kill it before it dies i dont know. But 1 thing for sure it that the giant NM's move will take HP from anything near by and will only become targetable once it agros you when you kite Guimuave near it.

Oh we got two chest of note: 1 gave us 1k cour and another gave us 10 extra minutes. (time chest we got using forbidden key on a blue chest. both chest and key dropped from normal puddings)

edit: buguards links fyi

[Cairthenn]

Thanks for the Fistule information! Maybe I'll rework the Konschtat plans I had for tomorrow and give it a go :3

[Cyprias]

Just got that P something Scythe off of Megamaw Mikey.

Edit: It's Plaga Scythe.

[Eleven19]

So, got significantly less Cruor today, but again our primary goal wasn't to farm it. We got maybe ~3500-4k today, left with 10minutes remaining (of 90).

Just real quick, I'm curious about the amount of Cruor made. When you're specifically farming that, what types of mobs are you killing? Just mowing through all the mobs you come across? Specific mob types you're targeting? My friends and I have only done a few runs and mostly killing the immediate mobs to farm it.

[SovereignFFXI]

Good chance someone said this already, but I didnt see it posted anywhere so figured I'd reiterate:

Use of Tractor inside Abyssea will clear your visitant status upon zoning, and will pause for ten seconds before teleporting your dead body to the Searing Ward, located at the entrance of the zone. There you can be safely raised within 5 minutes in order to reapply visitant status.

Unfortunately, that'll create some problems for your group depending how far in you are, so keep this in mind when planning routes.

[Ave69]

Nice run laynton... Good discovery thanx for the info, I'm sure were all going into konchat tonight instead of latheine now Did you happen to throw any nukes with 1 of your 6blms? If so was the dmg good or needing SCs?

[Laynton]

we were to damn surprised when Fistule started attacking to really think about nuking. kind of the deer-in-head lights thing lol it seemed to pick up the hate of anyone who got hate from nuking Guimauve. Not positive on that though. the 3 ppl that died from Fistule died in mater of no more than 90 sec after agro. hit hard too...like 400+ if i remember right....but that was on a taru blm so that doesnt say too much. we got two bliz IV off on Guimauve and they did 800 something and 900 something and that took him down too no more that 95% HP...not 100% sure on that though. He deaggroed once the 3 blms where dead and became untargetable and non-agressive again.

[Leashedragon]

Just curious, but are there any mobs around Fistule?

Since pulling the NM near it "awoke" it, was curious if any engaged mob being drug over to it will do the same or if it's just that NM(or any NM).

I could be completely off as I've never been in Konschtat, but wanted to toss an idea out.

[Pendulum]

Did a run today; didn't get as much done as I had hoped but got some stuff done.

With regards to peering in chests:
A 'large' amount of xp is 1k.
A 'small' amount of cruor is 400.
A 'tiny amount' of xp is 250.
I assume these quantities are interchangeable so a large amount of cruor is also 1k.

We entered with the aim of doing the Gigas NM Grandgousier after seeing an earlier post that said not much else on the NM other than it drops the int +7 belt.

Grandgousier is a RNG. He is popped with a Massive Armband that is farmed from the Demersal Gigas(rng) in the canyon near conflux #2. All his ranged attacks appeared to ignore utsusemi, including Trebuchet. When he uses Lightning Roar, he gains enthunder and shock spikes that cannot be dispelled. I was rdm but spikes seemed quite potent and enthunder was hitting for 50ish. I'm not sure if he used TP moves other than Trebuchet and Lightning Roar.

We wiped first time at about 50% because we had no info on the guy and all our damage was frontline melee/nin with pld/nin. Second attempt we decided to just zerg with 2 sams and a BZ drk, no CSS, just curebombed with whm. He went down pretty quickly to that. If you were to try this without zerging I would recommend rngs and a tanking with PDT gear; the tank will get hit.

Have several Tiger pops farmed; any extra info on him would be appreciated. Seems rng would be good for it?

[FailureMidgard]

Just real quick, I'm curious about the amount of Cruor made. When you're specifically farming that, what types of mobs are you killing? Just mowing through all the mobs you come across? Specific mob types you're targeting? My friends and I have only done a few runs and mostly killing the immediate mobs to farm it.

We didn't specifically target them, we've been targetting the Gigas, just finished our popset today. But ya, basically just killing as much as you can, the Gigas in NW LaTheine seem good.

Did a run today; didn't get as much done as I had hoped but got some stuff done.

With regards to peering in chests:
A 'large' amount of xp is 1k.
A 'small' amount of cruor is 400.
A 'tiny amount' of xp is 250.
I assume these quantities are interchangeable so a large amount of cruor is also 1k.

We entered with the aim of doing the Gigas NM Grandgousier after seeing an earlier post that said not much else on the NM other than it drops the int +7 belt.

Grandgousier is a RNG. He is popped with a Massive Armband that is farmed from the Demersal Gigas(rng) in the canyon near conflux #2. All his ranged attacks appeared to ignore utsusemi, including Trebuchet. When he uses Lightning Roar, he gains enthunder and shock spikes that cannot be dispelled. I was rdm but spikes seemed quite potent and enthunder was hitting for 50ish. I'm not sure if he used TP moves other than Trebuchet and Lightning Roar.

We wiped first time at about 50% because we had no info on the guy and all our damage was frontline melee/nin with pld/nin. Second attempt we decided to just zerg with 2 sams and a BZ drk, no CSS, just curebombed with whm. He went down pretty quickly to that. If you were to try this without zerging I would recommend rngs and a tanking with PDT gear; the tank will get hit.

Have several Tiger pops farmed; any extra info on him would be appreciated. Seems rng would be good for it?

2 things - first on the gigas, we killed it fine with melee, but we had significantly more than 1 party. Maybe 1-2 deaths from a bad catapult, but wasn't a huge issue.

The tiger was just spamming the amnesia and paralyze moves for the most part, had an en-effect that seemed to change, we saw at least en-stun and en-doom...but he melee'd so infrequently, it was really easy to keep shadows up with a mage spamming paralyna. I'm not sure if we really fed that much TP, or it naturally spammed it, felt like the Batallia ANNM kinda, with a little less pattern.

[Ave69]

Tiger is a beast... But worth it! Has aoe 10' amnesia that lasts a solid 2mins. Additional effect on atks endoom... Holy waters worked for me usually 1/1. Uses normal tiger to moves also. Lowman grp with mnk or sams /nin fully hasted shouldn't have any problems besides para and amnesia. Blm dmg is solid also, SC would make a quick kill if you can pull 1 off through amnesia. That sums it up... Drops tumbler trousers. 5dex 5chr 18attk

Good luck! Our poper also got black tiger fang keyitem after our 2nd kill. Believe it is 1/3 items u need along with a gigas helm for the ??? Just NE of the rams. That is our current mission.

[Karbuncle]

We didn't specifically target them, we've been targetting the Gigas, just finished our popset today. But ya, basically just killing as much as you can, the Gigas in NW LaTheine seem good.



2 things - first on the gigas, we killed it fine with melee, but we had significantly more than 1 party. Maybe 1-2 deaths from a bad catapult, but wasn't a huge issue.

The tiger was just spamming the amnesia and paralyze moves for the most part, had an en-effect that seemed to change, we saw at least en-stun and en-doom...but he melee'd so infrequently, it was really easy to keep shadows up with a mage spamming paralyna. I'm not sure if we really fed that much TP, or it naturally spammed it, felt like the Batallia ANNM kinda, with a little less pattern.

Wheres that info on the time extension >:O

[Kegsay]

Abyssea-La Theine, used transparent insect wing and popped La Theine Liege. Tried to 3 man it, but it overpowered us. Hits hard 200~300 non PLD tank, triple attacks. Casts Aeroga 3. Can stun using Head Butt but ~75% proc. Seems to have low accuracy, Actinic Burst was making it miss me and I have lolBLU evasion. That being said, BLU SAM WHM got it to 60% before wiping, mainly due to the Triple Attack. Recommend NIN WHM RDM and could prolly trio it.

[Kegsay]

Oh sorry, forgot to mention...

At the Cruor Prospector, you can get buffs. The HP Boost (50 Cruor) is at 20% boost to max HP, the MP Boost (100 cruor) is a 10% increase. I.e. not worth it. Didn't try the STR DEX VIT boosts so they could be good. What's good is the buffs will stay even if you die!

[Darkmagi]

Abyssea-La Theine, used transparent insect wing and popped La Theine Liege. Tried to 3 man it, but it overpowered us. Hits hard 200~300 non PLD tank, triple attacks. Casts Aeroga 3. Can stun using Head Butt but ~75% proc. Seems to have low accuracy, Actinic Burst was making it miss me and I have lolBLU evasion. That being said, BLU SAM WHM got it to 60% before wiping, mainly due to the Triple Attack. Recommend NIN WHM RDM and could prolly trio it.

Well no shit... flash like floors your acc.

[Lilswitche]

Oh sorry, forgot to mention...

At the Cruor Prospector, you can get buffs. The HP Boost (50 Cruor) is at 20% boost to max HP, the MP Boost (100 cruor) is a 10% increase. I.e. not worth it. Didn't try the STR DEX VIT boosts so they could be good. What's good is the buffs will stay even if you die!

20% HP seems mighty good for a DRK that might want to 2hr an NM.

[Ramsey]

I think one thing we should focus on now is what solo experiences one can do in Abyssea every 30 mins. I see some quests give 200 cruor. Are they repeatable I wonder.

Also, are there any decent solo camps that one can spend 30 mins farming for cruor?

Finally, what exactly is the aggro situation there? I understand the notion of gainign malice for kills and attracting enemies. If one goes in fresh and kills not one mob, will all mobs ignore them or do some still aggro without sneak, invis, or both?

I'm not too familiar with the aggro mechanic, I'm not sure if it works within a single run or as a whole. I killed a ton of Limule the first day but they don't aggro me when I enter now.

Someone mentioned it but don't enter during primetime if you want to solo, most mob families are IT++, I've been having bad experiences trying to solo various mob types as BLU77/NIN38 mostly my own fault for trying pre80, but even when you do find a EM/T mob it can be extremely difficult to pull them out of the pack without linking.

Basically I discovered that killing solo at least at the moment is totally inferior to doing the quests. I'll try again at 80, and not during primetimes, but be very careful of links is my advice if you want to try and solo.

[Laynton]

Just curious, but are there any mobs around Fistule?

Since pulling the NM near it "awoke" it, was curious if any engaged mob being drug over to it will do the same or if it's just that NM(or any NM).

I could be completely off as I've never been in Konschtat, but wanted to toss an idea out.

there are puddings near by that cast tier IV spells and tier III ga spells. I dont know if they will aggro/link with small NM or not. we kited it away to avoid the chance of that happening.

Theres a corner North of pudings where Fislute is at where there arent any mobs. a little small to kite imo but probably could be done.

I dont know if you can "awaken" him by other puddings or just the NM pudding....will be eager to find that out myself later if someone doesnt beat me too it.


Edit: on dont know if its been figured out or not but Guimauve popped/spawned on its own. We didnt force spawn it with items or anything. Could be lottery spawn from puddings maybe? we didnt kill that may puddings before it popped/spawned so i think its more just a random spawn time like a regular mob.