Abyssea Discussion

[Cichy]

Cichy, how difficult were the T1s? Can they be soloed or low-manned?

Both t1's seemed very easy, we had 16 and we completly destroyed them. Took maybe 3 min to kill each. I dont think a group of 6 would have much problem.

Carabosse hits for like 300 without shield block, but with songs and haste, keeping up shadows isnt too hard. Also, it uses lethe arrow or w/e like all the time which does about 200 dmg and knocks back so we had tanks facing opposite sides of the path and we would get knocked into the wall.

[urat]

This confuses me, if the hard cap is 120 mins and we can eventually hold 4 stones, what does the abyssite for time extension do?

Unless of course that abyssite increases the hard cap as well...

[Salmijr]

Oh, I fucked myself over! Exited with like 4min50seconds remaining, so when I re-entered an hour later, I didn't have visitant status and had to spend my stone in order to get visitant status to buy the thing, so I don't have another stone left to check the NPC. :/ One other guy in shell should be getting a stone very soon, but he's afk atm so no ETA on that information.

Well, the abyssite of Soujorn did not extend the current visitant time remaining upon purchase. Once i get another stone in a few hours, I will see if it grants more than the initial 30 minutes per stone.

Sooo, either the abyssite will grant more time per stone, or extend the maximum allowed time inside past the 120 minute limit it seems to currently have.

[Shenrien]

I'm guessing the Abyssite raises the hard cap while tacking perhaps +15 minutes onto each stone, someone in my LS said it tacked on +60 minutes onto each stone which to me sounds like utter bull shit if I've ever heard it, nothing I'd really run around screaming omfg blahblahblah about, +15 or +30 sound reasonable, probably +15 knowing SE, haha.

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[03:12:32]Conflux Surveyor : I see you have 89 minutes of visitant status remaining from your previous visit.

[03:12:32]
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Conflux Surveyor : I see you have 89 minutes of visitant status remaining from your previous visit.

[03:12:49]You expend 2 traverser stones
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[03:12:49]Your visitant status has been set to 120 minutes.

[03:12:49]Your visitant status will wear off in 120 minutes.

[03:12:56]yTarget out of range.

[03:13:00]An unseen force is drawing you towards the maw.

- edit wow I'm tired and just realized I posted the same thing that was shown in screen shot? lol

[Francisco]

So buying Abyssite increases time in zone?

I'm not sure I have this system right just yet... is it:

1: Buy Abyssite.

2: Pop NMs.

3: Get Key Items.

4: Pop Bigger NM?

[Salmijr]

I'm guessing the Abyssite raises the hard cap while tacking perhaps +15 minutes onto each stone, someone in my LS said it tacked on +60 minutes onto each stone which to me sounds like utter bull shit if I've ever heard it, nothing I'd really run around screaming omfg blahblahblah about, +15 or +30 sound reasonable, probably +15 knowing SE, haha.
- edit wow I'm tired and just realized I posted the same thing that was shown in screen shot? lol

SE, reasonable? Wow.... I , I just dont know.. Putting down keyboard and walking away before i punch the screen. Its crap like this that really makes me hate SE sometimes.... Ivory abyssite of Soujorn (the purchaseable one), 1 stone... Did not turn it in to see if it is consumed.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...628_015456.png

[miokomioko]

Abyssea is getting better and better, lol...

The more and more these add-ons become obvious time-sinks to keep players in this game as well as the next installment, the more I want to fucking just quit this one now and wait for the next.

[Cairthenn]

For your convenience...I have made A CHART.

Of presumed pop path for Konschtat

http://i47.tinypic.com/2q1vx34.png

[Priran]

rofl +10%

SE, your troll face is showing

[Karbuncle]

OMGZ, can go from being in there for 90 minutes to 99 minutes!!

SE you sly masterminds, you know exactly how to make people waste their time, luring something that requires ~3hours of farming Cruor in their face (if you're lucky) for an extra 3 minutes per stone ^_~

Waste your time doing that and spending Cruor on it means you'll be forced to spend more time farming for more Cruor for the things you actually wanted =D!

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I'm sad now...

[miokomioko]

+10% is obviously for fake-afking with a loot pool while everyone else is about to get spit out.

[Shadida]

+10% is obviously for fake-afking with a loot pool while everyone else is about to get spit out.

Brilliant.

[Xerlic]

Not to shit on people, but did you guys honestly think that S-E would make these weapons "easy" to get?

Relic weapons were announced via update notes (I think, it's been too long) and we all know what a huge time/gil investment that is.

Mythic weapons were definitely announced announced via update notes, and S-E said something to the effect that these would be more casual versions of relics. Their definition of that is 50k alexandrites, but hey at least they lowered it to 30k.

Now Empyrean weapons are announced via update and on the website. It's a fairly simple pattern. On the plus side, here's to hoping Hagun doesn't crash completely now that it's apparent that every Joe Shmo won't be walking around with a Masamune.

[Cantih]

The only quests I was able to flag with no fame were "His Box, His Beloved", "Weapons Not Worries" (and of course the martello mini-quest "Refuel and Replenish"). It's possible there's others I missed but I think I covered most of the zone.

I've completed all 3 of those quests, on the order His Box, Refuel, Weapons. ONLY after finishing Weapons, I got a quest from Kupipi, Cleansing the Canyon - Trade in 3 sanguinets.

Was out of time and unable to check other camps for quests.

[Priran]

Not to shit on people, but did you guys honestly think that S-E would make these weapons "easy" to get?

I expected them to be hard enough to get that people would only bother getting one, maybe two. But I think people assumed that when they used the things to sell the add-on and said that Abyssea would do away with the need for large time investments, they would realistically be within the reach of anyone who bought the expansion and not just the usual suspects who can rustle up a dozen suckers to put a year of effort into getting them a shiny.

[Phraust]

Doesn't seem that bad honestly. I personally assumed they'd be at the rough difficulty of getting the old 'top tier' Magian DD weapons (kill 6 of these and 6 of those). And peopel thought THAT was hard the first week too. Give it time, I'm sure this stuff will be routine in no time.

[Priran]

Doesn't seem that bad honestly. I personally assumed they'd be at the rough difficulty of getting the old 'top tier' Magian DD weapons (kill 6 of these and 6 of those). And peopel thought THAT was hard the first week too. Give it time, I'm sure this stuff will be routine in no time.

Difficulty is almost irrelevant, it's like trying to gather ichor for a balrahn's patch. You're bound by the constraints of the system; in that case, the maximum amount of ichor one run can give and the reentry timer and in the case of these weapons, the time needed to run around and farm key items that aren't 100% and then fight a NM that drops 2 items when one person needs 50 items and you're all limited to a little over 4 hours a week inside abyssea.

[Baelorn]

This confuses me, if the hard cap is 120 mins and we can eventually hold 4 stones, what does the abyssite for time extension do?

Unless of course that abyssite increases the hard cap as well...

We'll eventually be able to hold 4 stones? Is this a quest?

[Ramsey]

Well when they raise the cap a few more times we'll be able to get Empyrean weapons NP when we can duo these NMs, but then we'll all be shitting ourselves over how it takes 18 people to farm 50 whatchamacallits for every piece of AF3 that was promised to be something a small group (3-6) people would be able to obtain.

On topic: I think one of my biggest annoyances is that Martellos can't be filled if the amount in your tank is > the amount missing. So even if you use it when it's at 999, bringing it down to a lower value, it'll still stay full. And since all the Martellos everywhere are generally over 900+ it's impossible to ever fill one. Anyone know the exact # a Martello has to be below to allow you to fill it?

We'll eventually be able to hold 4 stones? Is this a quest?

Unclear, this was on the update notice. I imagine it's when you've finished most of the quests in the zone or something, who knows.

[Priran]

The ability to hold 4 stones comes from an abyssite key item.