Abyssea Discussion

[miokomioko]

Gunpowder Swathe drops from Bog Bodies. (why did I feel like that was uncomfirmed)

I just went in for 30min, killing nothing but Bog Bodies. I got Ruby every single time I killed one with a WS (including skillchain dmg), got Pearlescent every single time I killed with a standard melee hit. *shrug*

Also, got Coral Fragment from a gold chest.

[Gwynplaine]

Yeah, I hate to burst the bubble on the light theory, but I get Pearlescent on WS kills constantly, ruby on melee hit kills, and I've even had my light change while standing nearby to a kill and doing nothing but opening a chest for the party.

Like I pointed out, the pearlescent, golden, silvery, and ebon lights seem like they might work differently somehow. I say this because in the zone data they're listed separately with varying strengths. I've never experienced silvery or ebon in Tahrongi, only pearlescent. Someone had said they obtained gold light from a chest before.

[a faint/a mild/a strong] pearlescent, golden, silvery, ebon
[a feeble/a faint/a mild/a strong/an intense] azure, ruby, amber

I think in order to disprove the azure, ruby, amber idea someone would have to get like azure from a WS kill or ruby from a magic kill. And I haven't seen that yet.

[Enygma55]

Last time I did Abyssea farming, we got silvery and golden light from I believe Red chests. After the lights I noticed our Cruor per kill was going up.

Started out getting like ~20 per kill then it went up to like ~28 after silvery and was around ~35 after golden.

XP per mob dropped after getting silvery from like ~100 to around ~88 then back up to like ~125 after golden.

This was just random eyeballing because I was pulling mobs into the alliance.

I dont know if there is an exact correlation or if the lights were the source of it. I did lv up from 78 > 79 near the end after getting golden light. Not sure if that affected cruor also.

[miokomioko]

If it really is based on damage-type on killshot, perhaps you have to repeatedly kill with that one damage type to get the intensity to raise, instead of bouncing between colors, staying feeble/faint.

Also, it could be the damage type that a party member killed a claimed mob with that affects the entire party's "light."

[Gwynplaine]

If it really is based on damage-type on killshot, perhaps you have to repeatedly kill with that one damage type to get the intensity to raise, instead of bouncing between colors, staying feeble/faint.

Also, it could be the damage type that a party member killed a claimed mob with that affects the entire party's "light."

That seems like one likely idea. Otherwise I wonder if maybe the strength increases the more powerful the enemy you kill. Like feeble: less than IT > faint: IT or T1 NM > mild: T2 NM > strong: T3 NM etc.

[urat]

On top of how the lights are obtained, wtf do they even do? All Ive noticed is when the light hits a certain level of strength we get a temp item.

[Onorgul]

On top of how the lights are obtained, wtf do they even do? All Ive noticed is when the light hits a certain level of strength we get a temp item.

Isn't that enough? I seem to recall someone mentioning that you don't get XP chains in Abyssea, so perhaps this is basically a substitute bonus for killing in a particular manner. It's a weaksauce bonus, but everything about Abyssea seems to be at once really good and yet simultaneously really obnoxious, so...

[Kegsay]

And apparently the temp item is based on the light (e.g. magic kill light = magic based item like MAB/MACC drink)

[Khiinroye]

Killed Kukulkan today. It did ST20 type curse, heavy enpoison that could not be removed (100+). It used a few new moves, such as Oppressive glare (unsure of the effect, this may have been the curse). It also triple attacked a lot. We had many deaths, but we managed to down it in the end. We used most of our 2hrs, and used most of the temporary items we'd gotten up to that point.

We got the key item for killing it, a Kukulkan fang, and a Shunten Hachimaki (racc +12, archery skill +5, conserve tp +5). 2705 xp and 495 cruor in an alliance of 18. We got the title Kukulan Defanger. There was a 1000 cruor chest too, but those drop randomly from normal mobs. Upon zoning out, we got a Lunar abyssite, just like the group that killed the quest gigas.

For the lights, I can confirm that my group has received a golden light in konschtat from a chest dropped by the ephemeral mob by the leeches.

Also, we got a chest later that contained "several temporary items" which turned out to be about 6-8; I'm unsure of the exact number due to existing temp items; definitely worth opening.

[darthmage]

anyone know what mob in abyessa drops the ranger neck piece thanks a bunch

[urat]

Killed Meditatorr (T1 VNM in La theine) about 8 times and got the colorful abyssite. Can confirm that everytime we killed with ws we got ruby light, everytime with melee hit it was pearlescent.

In la theine, we popped 5 Meditators in a row at F8, all within 30 yalms of each other. Im not sure if it was the same 2 ones that are just close together with really fast respawns or if there's just that large of a cluster of them there.

Either way I was able to pop one every couple minutes.

After getting abyssite we did a few more kills for another person on run, no upgrade, then aggroed chasmic hornet.

Killed it with like 30 seconds left on the clock and the stinger dropped. Managed to get it with 2 seconds left, all in all best half hour run my ls has seen yet :D

[Rokku]

Like I pointed out, the pearlescent, golden, silvery, and ebon lights seem like they might work differently somehow. I say this because in the zone data they're listed separately with varying strengths. I've never experienced silvery or ebon in Tahrongi, only pearlescent. Someone had said they obtained gold light from a chest before.

[a faint/a mild/a strong] pearlescent, golden, silvery, ebon
[a feeble/a faint/a mild/a strong/an intense] azure, ruby, amber

I think in order to disprove the azure, ruby, amber idea someone would have to get like azure from a WS kill or ruby from a magic kill. And I haven't seen that yet.

I've only seen gold from the red chests. If we're talking about the light color being from a group kill, it might be the case, but I've seen instances where not everyone gets an aura change. Also, our WHM regularly gets ruby light while doing nothing but healing.

edit: Our BRD has mentioned getting Azure while doing nothing but singing ballad, and we don't bring along a BLM or any other job that deals magical damage.

[Gwynplaine]

I'm curious if using a magic burst as a killing blow has its own color aura. Doubt there's much of that going on.

Edit: btw I'll use this useless post just to say that I checked my fame in LaTheine after getting fame 1 in Tahrongi and it was 0. So fame is zone dependent and not universal.

[Pruviant]

Killed Kukulkan today. It did ST20 type curse, heavy enpoison that could not be removed (100+). It used a few new moves, such as Oppressive glare (unsure of the effect, this may have been the curse). It also triple attacked a lot. We had many deaths, but we managed to down it in the end. We used most of our 2hrs, and used most of the temporary items we'd gotten up to that point.

What was your setup for this? Was it straight tanked or kited? How many did you down it with? Also, what is your favorite color? lol ^^

[knifebait]

I'm not sure if this has been said or if anyone has noticed. The stones stack past 3 from the NPC in Port Jeuno. I got 3 stones from him and did a 90 min run just now. Went back just to check if i could get more and ended up getting 2 more stones. So as far as i know you can stack up to 5.

My theory is it works like campaign tags but it just doesn't show you how many stones he has. So if you don't go for a week you can do 2 runs for 60 and 90.. maybe more.. if anyone holds out that long from entering to check it out.

[Shamaya]

I dont know if there is an exact correlation or if the lights were the source of it. I did lv up from 78 > 79 near the end after getting golden light. Not sure if that affected cruor also.

Yep, level does affect both exp and cruor gain. In my last party, cruor and exp both scaled up from the lowest level member in the party, to the highest.

[Meian]

I'm not sure if this has been said or if anyone has noticed. The stones stack past 3 from the NPC in Port Jeuno. I got 3 stones from him and did a 90 min run just now. Went back just to check if i could get more and ended up getting 2 more stones. So as far as i know you can stack up to 5.

My theory is it works like campaign tags but it just doesn't show you how many stones he has. So if you don't go for a week you can do 2 runs for 60 and 90.. maybe more.. if anyone holds out that long from entering to check it out.

Not sure about this... haven't done a run yet but after getting my third and checking with him he just says I have the most I can carry right now. I would prefer if the times did stack though so like after 60 hours I can get all 3 at once instead of sitting at Port Jeuno inbetween

[dubs]

Not sure about this... haven't done a run yet but after getting my third and checking with him he just says I have the most I can carry right now. I would prefer if the times did stack though so like after 60 hours I can get all 3 at once instead of sitting at Port Jeuno inbetween

Right, because YOU can only hold 3. Go to the maw, get status with all 3 stones then go back and see how many stones you can get.

[CaitsithCrumb]

Not sure about this... haven't done a run yet but after getting my third and checking with him he just says I have the most I can carry right now. I would prefer if the times did stack though so like after 60 hours I can get all 3 at once instead of sitting at Port Jeuno inbetween

NPC def saves up atleast 3, you can just go after 60hrs and grab 3, don't have to go to port jeuno every day to grab one.

[Plow]

NPC def saves up atleast 3, you can just go after 60hrs and grab 3, don't have to go to port jeuno every day to grab one.

They're trying to figure out if when you have 3 on you, the NPC will save up 3 more.