Abyssea Discussion

[Belkin]

Why? I still don't follow this line of reasoning...

He is assuming magic kills will yield more time extensions.

[Francisco]

Randomish Abyssea question - but I've noticed several familiar NPCs in Abyssea (such as Ayame).

Are these the Vana'diel NPCs exploring Abyssea, or are they Abyssea versions of these NPCs (which would imply Abyssea is kinda of a a parallel universe)?

[firefeng]

Randomish Abyssea question - but I've noticed several familiar NPCs in Abyssea (such as Ayame).

Are these the Vana'diel NPCs exploring Abyssea, or are they Abyssea versions of these NPCs (which would imply Abyssea is kinda of a a parallel universe)?

They're Abyssea-versions of NPCs.

[Enygma55]

Randomish Abyssea question - but I've noticed several familiar NPCs in Abyssea (such as Ayame).

Are these the Vana'diel NPCs exploring Abyssea, or are they Abyssea versions of these NPCs (which would imply Abyssea is kinda of a a parallel universe)?

Abyssea in and of itself is an Alternate reality.

[Seol]

And just one last thing. I'm starting to realize how relatively useless Cruor really is. After you buy the gear you want and the Ancient Abyssites, there's really nothing left to do with it but buy temp items.

Time to start saving for that 2M cruor key item and see what it does? Seriously though, it never hurts to have cruor stored, the Abyssites aren't permanent items, we might eventually lose them and might need to rebuy them again? (speaking about Sojourn specifically) in a few weeks 6k Cruor will be chump's change, so it won't be that bad.

As someone mentioned you still use it for Confluxes or stock on keys. Also I'm not sure who was it, you or Cairtheen who posted some debugs about obtaining and losing Abyssites when killing NMs (I think it was during the comparison that Abyssites are called Jaides or something with jp spelling) it could be that just as random NMs give Abyssites you can only have a max set# of Abyssites you and the next abyssite adquired makes you lose your oldest abyssite? This is all speculation but if you were to eventually lose your Abyssites, you would have to buy the ones you want to keep/use for your mileage in Abyssea and having alot of cruor would make this easy.

On another note; I went Tahrongi to exp off mandies yesterday for 1:30mins and we never got a time extention. Before we left in the last 15mins another group came and camped on top of us, a friend joined that group that camped on us 30mins later, I just talked to him and he said they stayed for 3.5hrs, and that time chests were pouring in after the 30mins mark for him. Could it be that the 1st group "warmed up" the mobs for the 2nd group to get TE chests and since they literally camped on top of us the mobs were ranging IT++?
Our group went in @8:00pm, second group came in @9:15sh or so, my friend joined around 9:40-9:50 he said chests were droping after the 30mins mark for him, but killing had already been going on for a while.

[Shadida]

Has anyone gotten an amber light that wasn't from a chest? Seems somewhat strange that it seems to be classified with ruby and azure, and pearlescent is different.

[urat]

So maybe having 2 alliances side by side mass slaughtering everything in site would produce even faster exp, as the monsters are dying even faster thus getting "leveled up" faster?

Im pretty sure the camps can easily support 3 parties, each.

[ringthree]

He is assuming magic kills will yield more time extensions.

Right, and there is no evidence of this as of now (my experience is of course limited, but so is everyone else's), so I guess he is just making the logical leap?

[Calessa]

Cruor might have a use with the release of the next add-on, too. I wouldn't discount it just yet.

[Kegsay]

Looking at JP Wiki, it looks as if some of the missing abyssite key items are from Quests. E.g. Scarlet Kismet (The bearer will experience greater fortune with blue treasure caskets in Abyssea.) from Out of Touch quest.

[urat]

Looking at JP Wiki, it looks as if some of the missing abyssite key items are from Quests. E.g. Scarlet Kismet (The bearer will experience greater fortune with blue treasure caskets in Abyssea.) from Out of Touch quest.

Inb4 everyone zerging the fuck out of this quest.

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I know I am

[Solarus]

Do you mean the bonus got added permanently to your chain, or was it only a temporary boost and reverted to lower xp after those few mobs?

The exp didn't drop again, but it went back to increasing slowly.

It went something like 250 251 270 290 300 301 302.

On a completely random note, when I disconnected, came back, and rejoined party, my exp was still at the level it was before I had left.

[Motenten]

Assuming an average 3k cruor per 30minute run, that's 667 runs..which means you're looking at at least a year and a half before you can purchase this.

Of course, I don't know how simple or widespread these cruor farming alliances will become.

There's a girl in my LS that had a total of over 100k cruor last night, and she's bought at least 100k worth of gear to sell on the AH, so has gotten enough for 10% of the 2m item cost in around a week. Someone fixed on getting that key item could probably do it in a few months.

[Kegsay]

It also appears that some of the other nifty abyssite (Azure Abyssite of Celerity-Makes stones be produced quicker) are randomly got from NM kills (in this case, Bakka imp in Konschtat).

Both types of Ephermal monsters in Tahrongi also appear to give a chance to get abyssite, as well as Eph. Clionid in Konschtat... It could be that all Ephermal monsters have a chance (must be hellishly low) to get a specific abyssite.

Crude copypasta from JP wiki's information:

Traverser Stones replenished quicker = Bakka (NM-Konschtat)
Increases number of stones you can carry = Eph. Clionid (Tahrongi)
Increased chance of blue chest = Out of Touch quest (Reward)
Increased chance of gold chest = Eph. Limule (Tahrongi)
Scarlet reduced EXP loss = Mangy Tailed Marvin (La Theine)
More EXP per kill = Chasmic Hornet and/or Piasa? JP wiki unsure.
More Cruor per kill = Fear Gorta NM (Konschtat)
Increases HP and MP and other beneficial effects. = Bhumi NM (Tahrongi)

All of these seem to be a low chance to get on kill, AND it's one person only, not the whole alliance will get it.

[michaeldue]

Azure Abyssite of Celerity
Description:
Obtained By: Obtained by killing Bakka. Random chance to obtain.
Notes: Renders the bearer's traverser stone more rapidly replenished.

Eh??? This doesnt sound good to me lol?? Sounds to me like my stones will hold less than 30 minutes then???

Anyone know for sure what this means?

[chazzyphizzle]

The more cruor/kill abyssite was confirmed to have dropped to the whole alliance I thought?

[Aihree]

Eh??? This doesnt sound good to me lol?? Sounds to me like my stones will hold less than 30 minutes then???

Anyone know for sure what this means?

Replenished, not depleted.

It means that Joachim will get a new stone faster than 20 earth hours.

[Karbuncle]

Replenished, not depleted.

It means that Joachim will get a new stone faster than 20 earth hours.

Meaning every 19 hours and 57 minutes =D

[Shenrien]

Hey, if I can get my next stone that much sooner, then hot damn.

[Shadida]

Meaning every 19 hours and 57 minutes =D

I lol'd