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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    I also did Fei'yin ghosts for 150 ghosts claw trial. A pup with stone V, 5 optimization merits, pet ACP body, the 2 MAB claws, and dual loudspeakers (instead of II and tranquilizer) can easily two shot ghosts with a 3 ice stone V > deactivate > non charged stone V, making it the most efficient way to kill them possible for pup. They do occasionally pop too weak, but if you got movement speed, or even without, its quite easy to grab a ghosts attention from a distance and out run it till it loses aggro after a minute or so, depopping it and hopefully repopping it as EP.

    I used this combination to easily finish the trial, killing the EP ghosts in a particular area, grabbing any too weak ones with me and running to next area, kiting if needed til they lost aggro. Then I'd repeat in that area, then head back to first if needed to kill remainder of ghosts.

    Of course, smn can't do the same kill in 20 seconds trick pup can, but i'm sure they have no issues killing ghosts quickly anyways, and would easily deaggro too weak ones. Ice weather is extremely consistant, with one ice weather lasting nearly 2 hours once. I'm going back there for my 150 undead trial, but will focus on the spectors as i never noticed any too weak ones, but are also two shottable by pup and are neatly clustered near each other, with a few ghosts nearby if I run out.

    Main problem is the camp only really supports one person with pet killshots, due to dungeon repops. :s
    Awesome Ill try that, do you know of the actual locations where the ghosts are and provide a decent amount there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    But Elegy/Threnody are debilitating status afflictions that do something, not just a simple DoT. I'm wondering if things like burn/pyrohelix/etc. are also considered status ailments, even though they have no special "effect", they're just DoTs.

    (Well, the elemental DoTs cause a stat-down, but question still stands..)
    Quickstep worked for ice m.acc staff. So there's probably a lot of weird shit that works for different elements

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    Burn also inflicts INT Down.

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    So working through the Ice Staff, and I figure, hey, 150 Arcana with 50+ Ice Dmg kill, easy.

    Then I look up the list of Arcana type mobs, and the only suggestion anyone gives me is "Join arcana killer groups in Ro'Meave, get it done in a jiffy".

    Except, everyone who's in Ro'Meave just goes all out, and after 30 minutes of trying to get the killshot, I end up with 149 remaining. I think the JPs figured I needed kill shot, because there was a lot of w's not long after I joined. Fkrs.

    So I looks again, hey, Spheroids are Arcana! They have like 500 HP! Bliz3 kill npnpnp, run around Sky finding and sniping them, ez.

    Except when you nuke kill them, they don't count. For some reason, they just don't count. Man was I pissed.

    So back to looking at the Arcana list of mobs... and it's horrid.

    Anyone got any suggestions as to what to do for this stage? Because I dun like the look of it :<

    Halp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    Anyone got any suggestions as to what to do for this stage? Because I dun like the look of it :<

    Halp!
    I haven't done this much yet but it seemed ok for the 4 mobs I was able to kill before I had to leave... the dolls at the top of Ro'maeve die to roughly three nukes and if you cast at max range they won't aggro your magic. If you avoid the popular days for trials there it might be ok? You can also get FoV buffs right there which is handy.

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    either aggro->sleep the pop from the spheres, then kill the sphere, then zone.

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    suck it up and solo 'em! (arcana)

    always a third option:

    don't team up with jps if they're gonna dick you about and not let you get the kills, no reason to be missing the kill hots anyways, i assume you're BLM, even average geared BLMs can take off 40% of any arcana in ro'meave. start nuking at 50-60%, depending on how many are on the mob

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    Relativelty pimped Blm, yes. Lv80, got a host of other jobs too (check Sig), but I'd start casting at 60%, and they would kill it before cast got off, so I'd try lesser nukes, but they wouldn't kill it in time and nuke wouldn't kill it, just a host of problems from the word go. :< Stupid JPs.

    But ya, I can understand how Light/Darksday can be busy. Off to check somewhere else atm!

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    I've found if all else fails spam Tier I - II nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    So I looks again, hey, Spheroids are Arcana! They have like 500 HP! Bliz3 kill npnpnp, run around Sky finding and sniping them, ez.

    Except when you nuke kill them, they don't count. For some reason, they just don't count. Man was I pissed.
    I believe this comes from the fact that they do not yield EXP because they are Too Weak even at 75.

    I did Robots near the main entrance to Ru'Avitau if Ro'Maeve was full (of idiots).

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    The 150 Arcana trial was easily the most frustrating trial for the ice staff because you can't really team up with other people and do it like you can some of the others. When people come to do their trials in Ro'Maeve, they want to run around as a huge alliance and not give a crap about your trial.

    I did most of my kills on RDM, whittled them down with Joyeuse, then Blizz3 for the kill while previously mentioned alliance ran around cherry-picking all of the weapons leaving only the dolls for me. It sucks, but it was a hell of a less heartache than following that alliance around (and I was already up there as RDM with the intent of following some melees and didn't want to go change). If you could convince just a few people to join with you, that would be easier (and faster).

    Honestly, I didn't have much problems with JPs stealing killshots away from me when I teamed up with them (crab, funguar, bee trials for thunder/ice). {Last} {attack} {ice} usually gets the message through.

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    The arcana part was a nightmare. I teamed up with friends and they would get the killshot all the time (whoops sekka ws ws kills mobs at 50%?). Eventually I just did it as I skilled up on weapons in sky. This part took me about 2 months of on and off a little bit each day and was the slowest thing I've ever done yet.

    Except for the undead and wind damage. D: Or undead and anything.

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    Just go to sky, get two blm friends and do the dolls that you kill for Despot? Aga > sleep > AGA make sure you know your blizga will finish them off.

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    Really sorry if this was already discussed ;x glanced over most of the pages and didnt see it mentioned.

    Trying to do the 50 spider kills for Indra's Staff, wiki said to go to tree and kill them during thunder weather, I've spent a total of 4 1/2 hours here now and seen no weather, I know weather is random etc etc but is there anywhere else with more frequent weather? ;x

    Edit - Nevermind just saw Gra's post about Kuftal, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Really sorry if this was already discussed ;x glanced over most of the pages and didnt see it mentioned.

    Trying to do the 50 spider kills for Indra's Staff, wiki said to go to tree and kill them during thunder weather, I've spent a total of 4 1/2 hours here now and seen no weather, I know weather is random etc etc but is there anywhere else with more frequent weather? ;x

    Edit - Nevermind just saw Gra's post about Kuftal, sorry.
    Weather reporter for zitah/tree is in upper jeuno. Always check it first if you're going for tree weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Really sorry if this was already discussed ;x glanced over most of the pages and didnt see it mentioned.

    Trying to do the 50 spider kills for Indra's Staff, wiki said to go to tree and kill them during thunder weather, I've spent a total of 4 1/2 hours here now and seen no weather, I know weather is random etc etc but is there anywhere else with more frequent weather? ;x

    Edit - Nevermind just saw Gra's post about Kuftal, sorry.
    The Li'Telor region has highly seasonal weather. Spring/summer seems to be the best time. I didn't have very good luck with weather in Kuftal.

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    Thanks guys :]

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    Also, outside Whitegate on Attercops (in wind weather). Weather NPC in whitegate, 2nd level near fountain. For Zi'Tah you're looking for "thundery" weather. When the NPC says "chance of thunderstorms" it could literally be one minute out of a full Vana'diel day, but "thundery" will last most of the day.

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    Sorry if this has been asked before, but do all the top tier staffs have an elemental bonus, or is it just the mab/macc ones? Would love to be able to use cure potency Surya's for BRD songs, for example, and not have to get two of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalandor46 View Post
    Sorry if this has been asked before, but do all the top tier staffs have an elemental bonus, or is it just the mab/macc ones? Would love to be able to use cure potency Surya's for BRD songs, for example, and not have to get two of them...
    There are no hidden effects on these staves if that is what you're asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blev View Post
    looks like SE found a way for everybody to be able to enjoy the gear and not just those lucky enough to be rich mofo's lol
    with the added amount of another year playtime to accomplish said task. No thanks.

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