New Elemental Staves

[carmancilla]

Where did people find it easiest to do the final Varuna's staff trial of 250 crabs with 250+ ice kill shot? I'm thinking the big room in kuftal or the tree?

I did this at Pashow S near a lake with a zone to Grauberg I think. Repops are fast and I had no competition at all. I did this as SCH/RDM and was able to kill about 9-10 crabs before resting. I never tried Kuftal since it might be packed.

[Radec]

Where did people find it easiest to do the final Varuna's staff trial of 250 crabs with 250+ ice kill shot? I'm thinking the big room in kuftal or the tree?

Pashhow_S, J-7 - central Marsh. 7 pops on 5m timer. One Gob Toxophilite to dodge sometimes is all.

SCH/RDM+PLD bot, cleared it in about 5 hours - any decent DD alt would've been better, never once had to use more than drainsamba2.

Dark Staff: Not as bad as I expected so far. Vidohunir counts for dark damage killshots, hits for about 2x as much as drain did.

[cdgreg]

Thanks guys I'll check on Pash (S) today. Also fml, I anticipated Fire V so I've been working on fire dmg staff lol. FUCKKKK

[Yatuwatu]

I know drain and aspir are super random, but does anyone have any data (or even a gut feeling) for the Dark ACC staff vs. Pluto's with Drain/Aspir?

[CDF]

No data needed to infer that the dark acc staff will be better if your accuracy is poor and Pluto's will be better if your accuracy is capped.

[cdgreg]

No data needed to infer that the dark acc staff will be better if your accuracy is poor and Pluto's will be better if your accuracy is capped.

I was under the impression that the dark mdmg staff would be the best choice to produce the highest drain/aspirs?


edit: yes I know you were just answering his Q, but just for clarification purposes...

[Yatuwatu]

I was under the impression that the dark mdmg staff would be the best choice to produce the highest drain/aspirs?


edit: yes I know you were just answering his Q, but just for clarification purposes...

This seems likely. Nine years into the game you would think we'd have been able to crack the formula by now.

[zagex]

I know drain and aspir are super random, but does anyone have any data (or even a gut feeling) for the Dark ACC staff vs. Pluto's with Drain/Aspir?

I have one data point that stood out with the Dark acc staff. I MB'd an aspir for 180 mp on Ovni. That was pretty sweet. Of course one single data point means nothing by itself really.

[Wanna_Spoon]

Where did people find it easiest to do the final Varuna's staff trial of 250 crabs with 250+ ice kill shot? I'm thinking the big room in kuftal or the tree?

Killed around 150 crabs in about 2-3 hours in Kuftal using blm and aga. Of course you have to go when there isn't a lot people down there in order to gather 6-10 crabs which is close to never during prime times.

[thfwarrior]

the staffs are nice but idk what one to work on 1st im rdm btw

[Souj]

the staffs are nice but idk what one to work on 1st im rdm btw

Earth ACC > Ice ACC > Dark ACC > Thunder DMG > Ice DMG
unless you do 0 endgame.

[Yugl]

Ice DMG before thunder DMG if you have ice magic acc merits.

[Khajit]

Earth acc means shit because you already get earth acc just from meriting slow2 and stone wont be the highest tier nuke for rdm at 99 probably

[Yugl]

Earth acc means shit because you already get earth acc just from meriting slow2 and stone wont be the highest tier nuke for rdm at 99 probably

Or you merit Convert and Ice.

Edit: And Earth staff is easy as hell to do.

[Xera]

What is going on here, did slow randomly get hard to stick?

Or you merit Convert and Ice.

Edit: And Earth staff is easy as hell to do.

Tier 1 Merits =/= Tier 2 Merits.

[Radec]

Hadn't seen confirmation, but +DMG staves do work on drain/aspir.

Edit: Applied spoiler for large, doesn't resize under dark skin.

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Tough to see with resize (Click for full), but it's aspir for 147

TeiwazDMG+3/Dark Grip/----/W.Tath
Turban/Dark Torque/Abyssal/Hirudinea
Nashira/Relic+1/Galdr/Balrahn's
Merciful/Swift/AF+1/Igqira

No weather/day/stormspell.

[Yugl]

What is going on here, did slow randomly get hard to stick?



Tier 1 Merits =/= Tier 2 Merits.

Edit: NVM.

[orson]

Hadn't seen confirmation, but +DMG staves do work on drain/aspir.

Tough to see with resize (Click for full), but it's aspir for 147

TeiwazDMG+3/Dark Grip/----/W.Tath
Turban/Dark Torque/Abyssal/Hirudinea
Nashira/Relic+1/Galdr/Balrahn's
Merciful/Swift/AF+1/Igqira

No weather/day/stormspell.

I can't really think that the +damage would be the way to go. On most NMs the consistency of acc is going to out way the additional damage I would think and just for the +acc to sleep is so handy. I guess truly hard core people will get both pulling out which they needed for whatever content.

[cdgreg]

I can't really think that the +damage would be the way to go. On most NMs the consistency of acc is going to out way the additional damage I would think and just for the +acc to sleep is so handy. I guess truly hard core people will get both pulling out which they needed for whatever content.

I asked a couple months ago this same question and the overwhelming answer was the +DMG, maybe ill try to dig the info up later and link.

here:

Based on my own data collection, given no other potency-increasing factors (e.g. elemental staff, weather, day, "enhances..." equipment), there does not seem to be an increase in the maximum Drain value above 300 dark magic skill. (I am not interesting in showing results here as I have no desire to convince anyone here) But since it is likely that skill will continue to increase accuracy beyond 300, and that the max skill level will increase with successive version updates, the "dmg" Yama's Staff would be better considering the accuracy bonus of the accuracy-oriented Yama's is most likely not going to be realized on old content that you might still do at 99.

Possibly I interpreted CDF's post wrong, but I read it as with 300+ skill and climbing we will in essence be capped macc on most mobs and therefore the +DMG staff will be more beneficial.

[evilpaul]

I'm pretty sure you could cap accuracy and the DMG+ would give a bigger boost than going Macc+ and piling on Enhances Drain & Aspir everywhere else (after 300 skill)?

Also, why's the page ~2000 pixels wide?