New Elemental Staves

[cdgreg]

So, are the 5/1 staves better than HQ elemental staves for BLM?
Jupiter's Staff says its +2 Affinity, but the staffs say +5DAM/1ACC Affinity.
Does that meant HQ elemental staves are +2/2?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Magic_Affinity

^ May help

[Malacite]

So, are the 5/1 staves better than HQ elemental staves for BLM?
Jupiter's Staff says its +2 Affinity, but the staffs say +5DAM/1ACC Affinity.
Does that meant HQ elemental staves are +2/2?

That depends, are you willing to trade 5% M.acc for +15% more MAB?

/sarcasm off

Of course they're better. The M.Acc staves are also insane, in particular Wind and Dark M.Acc +5 for Silence/Gravity/Sleep. Might want to hold onto Aquillo's for Bind though since it's cheap and because if you have two of the Ice Staves, it will screw with your macros. That and idk how important ice magic acc is for a BLM outside of Bind and Blizzard (whole different story for RDM though)

[zagex]

Might want to hold onto Aquillo's for Bind though since it's cheap and because if you have two of the Ice Staves, it will screw with your macros. That and idk how important ice magic acc is for a BLM outside of Bind and Blizzard (whole different story for RDM though)

The correct answer is Varuna+1 damage staff and Varuna for m.acc, or vice versa if you value m.acc more than dmg

[Malacite]

If you feel like slugging out all those trials, then yes.

I'm at my wit's end just getting Indra +1 ><

[Massimo]

That depends, are you willing to trade 5% M.acc for +15% more MAB?

Misinformed as always.

It's +10 MAcc after the first affinity (which is +20) and +5% damage after the first (10%), not MAB.

[zagex]

If you feel like slugging out all those trials, then yes.

I'm at my wit's end just getting Indra +1 ><

Well I already have both ice staffs at the Varuna Staff stage. Getting the +1 and NQ just requires 1 more trial. In fact I have so many damned staffs I got bored and started the Thunder m.acc one

[SephYuyX]

Just to be clear - the new 5 per kill update only applies to weather trials yes? For upgrading to Indra+1 im stuck killing 250 trent/saps regardless, right?

[cdgreg]

Just to be clear - the new 5 per kill update only applies to weather trials yes? For upgrading to Indra+1 im stuck killing 250 trent/saps regardless, right?

I was wondering this too, wondered if there'd be a bonus if it was done in thunder weather. Guess I'll go check grauberg and see if weather is up

[Julian]

You only get the weather bonus if the trial requires weather.

[Plow]

Just to be clear - the new 5 per kill update only applies to weather trials yes? For upgrading to Indra+1 im stuck killing 250 trent/saps regardless, right?

Correct, but, if you team with someone else that's on the same trial, their killshots will count for you and vice-versa.

[Mojo]

Correct, but, if you team with someone else that's on the same trial, their killshots will count for you and vice-versa.

This makes it incredibly easier, just gather shit up and kill with time ga3 > sleepga.

[MIGhunter]

Also, if you do it when weather is up, you get credit for 5 kills instead of just 1. Someone said weather plus day = 10 but I've only done weather so far.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Wait, you're saying that you get 5 credits under thunder weather, even though the trial doesn't require thunder weather?

[Radec]

Also, if you do it when weather is up, you get credit for 5 kills instead of just 1. Someone said weather plus day = 10 but I've only done weather so far.

Definitely no on both, 1 credit/kill on thundersday with 2x weather on Indra+1 trial.

[evilpaul]

Just turned this in earlier today:

Spoiler: show

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7...0912234441.jpg

200 something more to finish Indra's +1.

I'm glad they didn't do two bullshit weapon DMG+1 trials though.

[Malacite]

Misinformed as always.

It's +10 MAcc after the first affinity (which is +20) and +5% damage after the first (10%), not MAB.

Eh, I haven't looked at the affinity charts sorry. I thought the M.Acc was % based too, guess it's just the MAB. So you're trading 10 Macc for, as I said, 15% more MAB. As a BLM you'd be out of your mind not to take that. Also, weather credit only counts once; I was out in Vunkerl today doing the 75 Beasts trial, and I was getting 6 per kill with lightning day and double thunder weather. Kinda sucks but I guess 11 per kill would be a bit extreme XD


Right now I don't know if I want to do Chigoe or Goblin Beetles though for 150 mobs. Chigoe would probably be faster, but I can reliably 1-shot the gob beetles with a cream puff active making it a lot safer. 1 kill roughly every 45 seconds is a drag though -. -

[nekura]

Eh, I haven't looked at the affinity charts sorry. I thought the M.Acc was % based too, guess it's just the MAB. So you're trading 10 Macc for, as I said, 15% more MAB. As a BLM you'd be out of your mind not to take that. Also, weather credit only counts once; I was out in Vunkerl today doing the 75 Beasts trial, and I was getting 6 per kill with lightning day and double thunder weather. Kinda sucks but I guess 11 per kill would be a bit extreme XD

It's not MAB.

[Malacite]

What's not MAB? Reading Comprehension ftw.

Someone was asking whether or not it's worth it to get the 5/1 MAB staff over an HQ Elemental Staff.

[ringthree]

What's not MAB? Reading Comprehension ftw.

Someone was asking whether or not it's worth it to get the 5/1 MAB staff over an HQ Elemental Staff.

I don't know how you can miss this three times but I will try explaining again...

It's not MAB, it is a direct damage multiplier. It's a different calculation.

[Hanyoko]

What's not MAB? Reading Comprehension ftw.

Someone was asking whether or not it's worth it to get the 5/1 MAB staff over an HQ Elemental Staff.

NQ elemental staff is... 1/1 and -perp
HQ elemental staff is... 2/2 and -perp
Magians +1 staff is... 1/5 or 5/1 or -perp

So yes, the damage staves blow HQ staves out of the watter. and the relic/mythics that have MAB on them