New Elemental Staves

[tonystigma]

A pure BLM only person will sell their HQ staffs in exchange for the new ones. However were now going to have to carry around more than 8 (inc light). We'll have to have +4 dmg staffs for all 6 spells, and at minimum have +4 MAcc staffs for Ice, Wind, and Dark spells.

So thats now 10 staffs; If you want to be a completionist youll have to get the MAcc versions of Water for poison, Stone for slow, Thunder for shock/stun, Light Cure+ staff for curing youself after vert if no drain, and to help others, and Fire for burn.

For a total of now having to carry around 14 staffs. 6 for damage, 8 for macc (assuming drain/aspir dont work any better for the dmg dark version. if so, now 15 staffs)


Not only is that a lot of staffs.. thats a shit ton of trials. And any BLM who doesnt do all of this is gimp.

The plural for staff is staves. Goddamnit.

[Arcsol]

Does anyone know the difference between the new Macc+4 staffs and alkalurops? I'd prefer to keep the alka for slow/para, but I just dunno the difference mathwise in case of doing something HNMwise on the resist scale. Hope that wording made sense.

[Haroun]

Well HQ Staves have more M.Acc than Alkalurops, and Affinity +2 on the Magian Staves is supposed to be equal to HQ Staves, so Affinity +4 would be quite a bit better than Alkalurops (minus the obvious potency difference).

[Yugl]

Has anyone tested the magic accuracy on these weapons? Unless Magic Damage, Magic Accuracy is listed on there and is a well established stat. If tests have not been done, is it really safe to assume that Magic Accuracy from these staffs is a value higher than listed?

[Haroun]

Has anyone tested the magic accuracy on these weapons? Unless Magic Damage, Magic Accuracy is listed on there and is a well established stat. If tests have not been done, is it really safe to assume that Magic Accuracy from these staffs is a value higher than listed?

No, but that is the general assumption, as Affinity +1 for damage is less than HQ Staves and Affinity +3 is greater than HQ Staves.

[Arcsol]

Well HQ Staves have more M.Acc than Alkalurops, and Affinity +2 on the Magian Staves is supposed to be equal to HQ Staves, so Affinity +4 would be quite a bit better than Alkalurops (minus the obvious potency difference).

Much appreciated.

[SephYuyX]

Awesome. 5 hours to complete the first Crook trial. lawl.

[Mercilessturtle]

Has anyone tested the magic accuracy on these weapons? Unless Magic Damage, Magic Accuracy is listed on there and is a well established stat. If tests have not been done, is it really safe to assume that Magic Accuracy from these staffs is a value higher than listed?

Yes, there was some quick testing done. Not enough to be 100% sure of the exact value, but enough to make it very clear that it is close to NQ staff.

[Yugl]

Yes, there was some quick testing done. Not enough to be 100% sure of the exact value, but enough to make it very clear that it is close to NQ staff.

What about HQ staff?

Edit: I ask because knowing their power relative to NQ staffs is meaningless unless we know the progression per magic accuracy (Listed on the weapon). If it were HQ, at least we have a base to work with that can give us comparative value.

[Magicide]

Has anyone tested the magic accuracy on these weapons? Unless Magic Damage, Magic Accuracy is listed on there and is a well established stat. If tests have not been done, is it really safe to assume that Magic Accuracy from these staffs is a value higher than listed?

The value of the magic accuracy on these staves is exactly what is listed. It's just that "Elemental affinity: magic accuracy" is a separate stat from "magic accuracy".

There's been enough testing to determine beyond the shadow of a doubt that the accuracy granted by these staves is > +1 magic accuracy. Given that the other stat is a perfect mimicry of the hidden stats on elemental staves, the assumption that the accuracy is as well is very safe.

[Yugl]

The value of the magic accuracy on these staves is exactly what is listed. It's just that "Elemental affinity: magic accuracy" is a separate stat from "magic accuracy".

There's been enough testing to determine beyond the shadow of a doubt that the accuracy granted by these staves is > +1 magic accuracy. Given that the other stat is a perfect mimicry of the hidden stats on elemental staves, the assumption that the accuracy is as well is very safe.

So then how much magic accuracy am I getting from Affinity:Magic ACC+3? Magic ACC+4?

[Souj]

I'm just getting thunder and ice damage staves for blm,
Earth wind and ice acc for rdm
dark acc for blm and rdm
and maybe dark -perp cost for smn.

I may work on more after those if I get bored enough, but those are the priorities.

[Pocketrockets]

;\ this trial is a bitch for BRD, I can hardly hit a 50 damage stone II as /BLM unless I ES and one mob every 10 minutes, with 75 targets ... wow lol, my Etudes and Int build are barely helping lol, if only I could cast this with my Terra's Staff but it has to be kill shot I fear the worst for when I hit 150 damage next trial.

Ummmmm, am I missing something? Aren't all the macc staves WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN/SCH? I see BLM in your sig, why not just do it on that job?

[Priran]

Wouldn't Earth Crusher count?

[Eldelphia]

I'm upgrading my Cure Potency Teiwaz - that's not an issue. But I have WHM, BRD, SMN, SCH, BLM, RDM (and COR)...

Wtf am I supposed to do lol? Thunder/Ice upgrade, keep my crozier and HQs?

[SephYuyX]

Thunder/Ice Damage, Wind/Earth/Ice/Dark MAcc, and all pet staves. Then you can probably sell one or two, lol~

[Eldelphia]

Thunder/Ice Damage, Wind/Earth/Ice/Dark MAcc, and all pet staves. Then you can probably sell one or two, lol~

Not happening lol....

[Magicide]

So then how much magic accuracy am I getting from Affinity:Magic ACC+3? Magic ACC+4?

No one knows for sure, but best guess is +40 and +50 respectively, given that NQ (+1) is +20 and HQ (+2) is +30.

The damage staves follow a similar formula in their progression, so it's a pretty confident guess, though.

[cdgreg]

Where the duce are the funguars in Grauberg.

[cdgreg]

I'm upgrading my Cure Potency Teiwaz - that's not an issue. But I have WHM, BRD, SMN, SCH, BLM, RDM (and COR)...

Wtf am I supposed to do lol? Thunder/Ice upgrade, keep my crozier and HQs?

Thunder is a must imo. Some others here insist on Ice but I'm not sold on it yet, -30MACC is a huge drop for me. Yes, I realize someone argued that we're gaining +15 or something from this update so it's "not so bad" but to just dismiss the bonus that we got from 75>80 doesn't sit right with me. At this point I'm wrapping up Indra's (thunder) then doing light, then possible MACC Dark/Earth.