Old Traits and Abilities Leveld up

[Raenil]

EDIT: God dammit, ignore me. Forgot about the base 8 -.-

[Ophannus]

Treasure Hunter II isn't an upgrade of Treasure Hunter, it's a totally different effect for rare items only isn't it? It's not a tier upgrade of an existing trait, it might as well be named some other name because Treasure Hunter+ gear only affects the first trait, the chance that something will drop, right?

[Priran]

Treasure Hunter II isn't an upgrade of Treasure Hunter, it's a totally different effect for rare items only isn't it? It's not a tier upgrade of an existing trait, it might as well be named some other name because Treasure Hunter+ gear only affects the first trait, the chance that something will drop, right?

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[Sehrahin]

Need confirmation on DRG attack bonus II, and also updated OP with more accurate what could be tested. Put pretty much everything cept Resist xxx traits since they're retarded. Will just remove stuff from list if they are tried and no change.

[Shadowhusky]

Need confirmation on DRG attack bonus II, and also updated OP with more accurate what could be tested. Put pretty much everything cept Resist xxx traits since they're retarded. Will just remove stuff from list if they are tried and no change.

Why did you list shit we already know?

[Raenil]

Need confirmation on DRG attack bonus II, and also updated OP with more accurate what could be tested. Put pretty much everything cept Resist xxx traits since they're retarded. Will just remove stuff from list if they are tried and no change.

I made the original claim, which Nightfyre referenced.

I completely forgot the 8 base attack and the +4 from my ammo slot. Dragoon did not get Attack Bonus II, sadly.

[Jeryhn]

Treasure Hunter II isn't an upgrade of Treasure Hunter, it's a totally different effect for rare items only isn't it? It's not a tier upgrade of an existing trait, it might as well be named some other name because Treasure Hunter+ gear only affects the first trait, the chance that something will drop, right?

Treasure Hunter and Treasure Hunter II are the only examples of Job Traits where there seem to be tiers of the same ability that are actually listed in the job traits menu. All other traits are possible to have different tiers, though these tiers are not listed as individual traits in the menu.

This can possibly mean that each trait enhances drop rates differently and are wholly independent of one another, that they are seperate abilites altogether.
If that's the case, it probably also means that TH gear only enhances one of these traits, specifically the first one.

It could also mean that Treasure Hunter and Treasure Hunter II have hidden tiers within themselves as a THF levels up as well.... though that's a bit of a stretch. We really know nothing about either of these traits unless SE says something about them, and they never will.

[Sehrahin]

Why did you list shit we already know?

I don't see what you are getting at. I listed the last known tier as reference only.

[Kirschy]

Can confirm no extra MAB on 80 BLM~

[Baelorn]

Might it be possible to hit a new tier of Bio DoT now?

[Sehrahin]

Probably can't but, given the new gear and a few INT base increases.. Possible for another tier of Elemental debuffs? Dunno what INT cap was before this update.

[Baelorn]

Probably can't but, given the new gear and a few INT base increases.. Possible for another tier of Elemental debuffs? Dunno what INT cap was before this update.

Well wiki lists the highest tier for Bio II as 291-??? and I know at 77 in my Dark Magic set I can hit 342.

[Sehrahin]

Well wiki lists the highest tier for Bio II as 291-??? and I know at 77 in my Dark Magic set I can hit 342.

Prolly can hit another bio tier, my comment was in reference to myself and the elemental debuffs (rasp shock etc.). I'm no BLM though.

[Baelorn]

Prolly can hit another bio tier, my comment was in reference to myself and the elemental debuffs (rasp shock etc.). I'm no BLM though.

Ah yeah, well, that will depend more on new max INT sets I think. Base stat changes probably won't be changing enough to hit the next tier.

[Sehrahin]

Think it's around 2 INT for every race, even for Taru. Also there's body with 13 INT, 3 INT earring, 6 INT ring etc. Can prolly stack a up a bunch.

[Baelorn]

Think it's around 2 INT for every race, even for Taru. Also there's body with 13 INT, 3 INT earring, 6 INT ring etc. Can prolly stack a up a bunch.

Don't forgot the massive +8 INT neck piece.

[Iresire]

If the last tier of elemental debuffs are any indication, 200 total INT may be required. That's pretty high. I currently have 157 total INT in my Elemental Debuff set without any food. It's not at max from prior gear.

For me, I think the more interesting thing is that it will be even easier to hit 150 INT and use the proper elemental staff instead of Kirin's Pole.

[Jem]

Absorb-INT is level 39. Not practical to rely on for proper BLM usage but might help when testing to see if there's another tier.

[Sehrahin]

Did some quick counting and assuming I didn't count wrong I got +99 INT for a BLM. But included things like Maat's/Mistilteinn (using teal cap and mythic wand +1 you would get +97)>.>

[Chen]

Well wiki lists the highest tier for Bio II as 291-??? and I know at 77 in my Dark Magic set I can hit 342.

do you have dark merits? my dark gear is perfect - abysall and crimson belt (have +5dark skill plutos) and i'm only at 326 skill at 75. +10~ from 2 levels right?

or is magic skills raising very fast