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[Tsuko_Asura]

Kirschy, there's no need to yell at me

[Spider-Dan]

Even without an extra tier of haste Samba, they offer the same amount of JA haste as Hasso, which leaves 1H and 2H tied for capped Haste.

Haste Samba doesn't apply to 2H?

With all of the above, 2H should be at hard cap, while 1H are 1.25% off (and 78.75% -> 80% is a pretty big difference).

[Cream Soda]

Haste Samba doesn't apply to 2H?

With all of the above, 2H should be at hard cap, while 1H are 1.25% off.

It does, but assuming haste samba only lasts for your next attack, dw/h2h will have it on more often, because even if they'd have to miss both attacks in an attack round not to have samba for their next melee round

[Kirschy]

Haste Samba doesn't apply to 2H?

With all of the above, 2H should be at hard cap, while 1H are 1.25% off.

Omg I wasn't yelling =(.

And yea, Spider-Dan is right, there'd still be a bit of extra haste to gain. And atm, not many jobs can cap Equipment Haste either, so Hasso + DNC means they'd gain whatever they didn't have in Eq Haste~

[Spider-Dan]

It does, but assuming haste samba only lasts for your next attack, dw/h2h will have it on more often, because even if they'd have to miss both attacks in an attack round not to have samba for their next melee round

At 75%+ haste, I don't think Samba status running out before you can land a hit is a concern.

[Malacite]

Hastega from summoner now caps at 5 minutes, and i was able to extend my rolling thunder to roughly 3 minutes, 33 seconds at 446 skill, level 75.

i assume all ward pacts that were effected by skill now cap at 5 minutes instead of 3, going to test the others, sans crimson howl, which can't be capped.

How the fuck did you get that much at 75?

[Cream Soda]

At 75%+ haste, I don't think Samba status running out before you can land a hit is a concern.

I mean, it should only last for 1 attack round, I think. Same way as hitting once and missing once won't drain you twice. Isn't the haste only for your next attack round?

Land a hit, reduces your delay for your next hit. Next hit goes back to normal but when you hit it's applied again. I'm saying if you miss, is it not applied again until the next time you land a hit.

[DionyShiva]

The Daze effect from a Samba lasts for a few seconds after your hit, not just until your next attack round. So even if you miss your next attack, you'll still be able to hit it again in time to re-apply the Daze effect.

[chazzyphizzle]

He's talking about you getting the benefit from the dazed monster, not the actual status sticking on the mob.

[Byrthnoth]

I meant that hasso users will be pushed over the haste cap, thus additional potential sources of haste do not benefit them directly. I gave the example of +5% haste because 75-80 got march 1% so 75-99 may be about 5% if it never caps. When Hasso starts giving less than 10% haste and 1h weapons start approaching the haste cap as well, the gap between weapon types will shrink. Think of monk with capped Haste. Delay is lower than in HF iirc.

[pooter01]

If a sam at 70% haste hits a mob with drain daze, they will have 80% haste for the next attack round. If they then miss that next round, they will be back at 70% haste till they can hit again. the haste is only in effect for rounds after you hit the target.

[frodnonnag]

How the fuck did you get that much at 75?

full merits, bahamut staff, marduk tiara, summoning torque, summoning earring, relic+1 hands, evoker's ring, astute cape, summoning belt, marduk pants, nashira feet.

16+5+7+7+3+12+10+5+2+5+5=77
77+269=346 total.

aside from this build there is also now a +10 body and a +10 staff meaning +92 skill from gear and merits(over the cap), a base of 294, and a max of 386, with +15 over that for siphon, or 401 base for siphon.

[Darkdoom]

full merits, bahamut staff, marduk tiara, summoning torque, summoning earring, relic+1 hands, evoker's ring, astute cape, summoning belt, marduk pants, nashira feet.

16+5+7+7+3+12+10+5+2+5+5=77
77+269=346 total.

aside from this build there is also now a +10 body and a +10 staff meaning +92 skill from gear and merits(over the cap), a base of 294, and a max of 386, with +15 over that for siphon, or 401 base for siphon.

You originally wrote 446, which is where the confusion stems from.

[frodnonnag]

You originally wrote 446, which is where the confusion stems from.

ope, one number off then. oh well. but my point remains.

[Wortie]

Just spent a few hours testing for new march tiers, thanks to Kirschy for the advice and my LS friends for helping me.

The new march tiers appear to be;
(/1024)
123 - 567 skill
124 - 573
125 - 580
126 - 587
127 - 594

I'm only level 78 at the moment with 596 skill, will try to hit 80 soon and then continue the tests.

[Kirschy]

Just spent a few hours testing for new march tiers, thanks to Kirschy for the advice and my LS friends for helping me.

The new march tiers appear to be;
(/1024)
123 - 567 skill
124 - 573
125 - 580
126 - 587
127 - 594

I'm only level 78 at the moment with 596 skill, will try to hit 80 soon and then continue the tests.

Nice to see some confirmation~ Appears to be following the same growth pattern. the next tiers should be:

594-599 - 127/1024
600-606 - 128/1024
607-613 - 129/1024
614-620 - 130/1024

[Sehrahin]

Tested PLD Defense Bonus, get V at 76 which was 13 more defense.

[Spider-Dan]

If a sam at 70% haste hits a mob with drain daze, they will have 80% haste for the next attack round. If they then miss that next round, they will be back at 70% haste till they can hit again. the haste is only in effect for rounds after you hit the target.

Is this verified?

[Priran]

Is this verified?

Except for mixing up drain and haste samba, yes.

It's pretty easy to test using a 999 delay relic weapon.

[Seid]

Has anyone noticed Jump occasionally having a different sound and graphic effect? In this case a blue graphic effect with a different sound.