Accession/Manifestation Applications

[Jeryhn]

Starting a thread to deal with Accession and Manifestation testing to figure out which spells are affected by it and which are not, since as far as I see there are bits and pieces of data between all the other individual threads. I'll pretty much only be listing spells based upon their potential usefulness or newness.

Accession
Cure5 - Cannot be Accessioned.
Cure6 - Cannot be Accessioned.
Regen3 - Functions normally.
Refresh - Functions normally.
Protect5 - Functions normally.
Shell5 - Functions normally.
Baramesia - Cannot be Accessioned. Other Barspells seem to function normally.
Enspell2 - Cannot be Accessioned. Tier1 Enspells function normally.
Phalanx2 - Cannot be Accessioned.
Sacrifice - Cannot be Accessioned. (Boo, SE)

Manifestation
Bio3 - Cannot be Manifestationed.
Blind2 (Dunno who will waste merits to test) - Assume cannot be Manifestationed.
Drain2 - Cannot be Manifestationed.
Aspir2 - Cannot be Manifestationed.
Dread Spikes - ??

Any data that can be provided will be helpful.

[Baelorn]

I believe C5 and C6 do not work. May or may not be intentional.

[Priran]

Wow, they really butchered these abilities.

[Baroka]

Cant accession haste :/

[Spider-Dan]

As I said before:

It's only a matter of time before SE releases a note that says:

"The scholar ability 'Accession' does not affect any spell that you really want to use with it. Also for Manifestation. So don't bother."

[Khamsin]

Refresh can be, Phalanx II can't be.

[Ashira]

ie, RDM/SCH = they're all gonna laff @ u

[Khamsin]

ie, RDM/SCH = they're all gonna laff @ u

It's still a decent sub, light arts gives essentially white magic fast cast, and reduces MP cost by 10%. Plus now it has erase when subbed, and can accession -na/erase, at least.

Only thing SCH sub doesn't have, compared to WHM, is curaga. If you really had to, you could accession cure, but if you're in a situation where you'll be regularly curagaing, then /WHM will be better.

[drwaffles]

All I care about is that it works with Erase. Fuck yo Yagrushi.

[drwaffles]

It's still a decent sub, light arts gives essentially white magic fast cast, and reduces MP cost by 10%. Plus now it has erase when subbed, and can accession -na/erase, at least.

Only thing SCH sub doesn't have, compared to WHM, is curaga. If you really had to, you could accession cure, but if you're in a situation where you'll be regularly curagaing, then /WHM will be better.

/WHM gets Stona now, but /SCH doesn't. Not that important but something to consider for, say, Zhayolm.

[Mojo]

No Accession Haste... What is this faggotry?

[Squall]

Can confirm that Accession does not work with Cure V or Cure VI. (If you try, the spell will remain single-target, though you do not lose the accession status.)

Accession works with Regen III, Protect V, Shell V, Erase, and usual -na spells.

[Khamsin]

Can confirm that Accession does not work with Cure V or Cure VI. (If you try, the spell will remain single-target, though you do not lose the accession status.)

Accession works with Regen III, Protect V, Shell V, Erase, and usual -na spells.

Yeah, just tested Protect V myself.

I briefly considered Manifestation Warp II (on SCH or BLM), since Klimaform works, but then realized Klimaform is Dark Magic and that's why it works.

[Mojo]

Yeah, just tested Protect V myself.

I briefly considered Manifestation Warp II (on SCH or BLM), since Klimaform works, but then realized Klimaform is Dark Magic and that's why it works.

Isn't Warp enhancing magic? Protect works... so maybe. That said, I don't think it'll work anyways, but the idea of warping your entire party does amuse me.

[Narol]

Accession only works with white enhancing magic, which is also why you can't Accession spikes onto people.

[Uzor]

It does not work with Sacrifice, its one of the first things I tried.

[Katoke]

Doesn't work with Drain II sadly enough.

[byte]

SE, I am dissapoint.

[Jeryhn]

It does not work with Sacrifice, its one of the first things I tried.

Boo, that's what I was really hoping for besides Haste.
Looks like SE sucker punched this ability real good.

Updated OP to reflect the data, thanks guys.

[Khamsin]

Hopefully they can fix the Sacrifice/Accession bug, along with Bio III, Drain/Aspir II, Cure V/VI, Baramnesia, etc.

If they meant it not to work, they would have mentioned it alongside Haste.