BST + New Pets Much Stronger!!

[Sho]

Oho, daddy needs level 80 BST asap.

Off to FoV in Ro'Maeve forever...

[Red Demon Taoist]

I seriously doubt BST will become bandwagon. People will get a taste of what it's like to level, and never come back.

It's fun for a while when your camps are dangerous and you feel like you're accomplishing something by gaining exp amidst the constant deaths.

Then at the end the camps are randomly the easiest of the grind and so fucking boring. So boring. I suggest lots of weed and coffee.

[miokomioko]

I honestly found BST solo way more fun (read: less stressful) when the camps were 100% safe. Like that one island in Riverne-something full of non-aggressive, non-linking birds.

That, and getting absurd EXP from letting Bombs explode is really nice.

[Midnightjade]

According to some other bsts, the crafting recipe is dark crystal with beech log, danceshroom, woozyshroom, and sleepshroom. (I think those were the 3 mushrooms). 100 cooking with 60 WW was reported to have 2/4 breaks... it might be woodworking main synth, or just a bitchy two craft synth.

Someone was saying the synergy recipe didn't work as listed by POL, it might be you need log instead, or that it's wrong completely.

Yeah, the update details list it as a WW main with Cooking sub, with Craftsman as the main craft level. If it's Synergy, then translating to regular crafting could mean it's higher (assuming it does translate).

I heard that the other jug recipes do translate and can be made with regular craft skill (all Cooking), but I haven't even logged in recently so have no proof of this I'm afraid.

[Calintzpso]

Yeah, the update details list it as a WW main with Cooking sub, with Craftsman as the main craft level. If it's Synergy, then translating to regular crafting could mean it's higher (assuming it does translate).

I heard that the other jug recipes do translate and can be made with regular craft skill (all Cooking), but I haven't even logged in recently so have no proof of this I'm afraid.

All the new jug synths can be main crafted. They don't require synergy. Synergy just makes it easier to make it at a lower level overall between 2+ people with synergy as the key, plus no breaks at cost of fewl.

I've made them all and even posted addendum's on Wiki about them working with crystals.

Even the Funguar one worked for a woodworking 60 buddy, but I think its main wood working, I was HQ2-3 on the other synths that are cooking, putting them at my craft level in the 50-65 range(Ladybug seems like only higher level one in cooking), or lower.

[NynJa]

All the new jug synths can be main crafted. They don't require synergy. Synergy just makes it easier to make it at a lower level overall between 2+ people with synergy as the key, plus no breaks at cost of fewl.

I've made them all and even posted addendum's on Wiki about them working with crystals.

Even the Funguar one worked for a woodworking 60 buddy, but I think its main wood working, I was HQ2-3 on the other synths that are cooking, putting them at my craft level in the 50-65 range(Ladybug seems like only higher level one in cooking), or lower.

That would then imply you can synth other things as well via main synth? I'm gonna try to farm up some antlion jaws and put this theory to the test on antlion arrows.

[blowfin]

I honestly found BST solo way more fun (read: less stressful) when the camps were 100% safe. Like that one island in Riverne-something full of non-aggressive, non-linking birds.

That, and getting absurd EXP from letting Bombs explode is really nice.

Yeah, it's just that hard to find decent solo spots at higher level. It'd be nice if there's another Garliage Citadel type spot hidden somewhere. Anything better than the 4-5k an hour i've been making capping out my axe. I've been spamming CB and MMM in the meantime. Of course i'm in a big hurry, my BLM is sitting on 77 while my BST approaches 79. >.>

It's all been fun though, CB and MMM are a blast and I can see BST being very useful in walk of echoes down the track once the pets level up a few.

[miokomioko]

It's been a long time coming that BSTs finally get a significantly useful/competitive pet.

Where did those old rumors come from that claimed that those Black Mandragora jug pets could cast Ancient Magic? Second, why would that have been so absurd? BST can charm Hecteyes and possibly other casting creatures that I can't think of at the moment. If PUP can sit there, repeatedly doing 2000+ dmg nukes, I think BST deserves some sort of decent magic-based pet if they felt so inclined.

[Onorgul]

I was duoing my Swift Belt many moons ago using a Familiared hecteyes (I've forgotten the specific name) and it actually managed to get a cast of Quake off. It did less damage than a single melee hit. Outside of being somewhat funny, there's really no reason to want or use Ancient Magic from a pet.

[miokomioko]

Way to take me far too literally...

[Plow]

All I have to say is fuck lesser chigoes being used for fucking anything.

[Ocara]

It's been a long time coming that BSTs finally get a significantly useful/competitive pet.

Where did those old rumors come from that claimed that those Black Mandragora jug pets could cast Ancient Magic? Second, why would that have been so absurd? BST can charm Hecteyes and possibly other casting creatures that I can't think of at the moment. If PUP can sit there, repeatedly doing 2000+ dmg nukes, I think BST deserves some sort of decent magic-based pet if they felt so inclined.

The idea probably came from steamed sprouts bcnm people actually used to do back in the day. The black mandy in that casts freeze.

[rowmark]

All the new jug synths can be main crafted. They don't require synergy. Synergy just makes it easier to make it at a lower level overall between 2+ people with synergy as the key, plus no breaks at cost of fewl.

I've made them all and even posted addendum's on Wiki about them working with crystals.

Even the Funguar one worked for a woodworking 60 buddy, but I think its main wood working, I was HQ2-3 on the other synths that are cooking, putting them at my craft level in the 50-65 range(Ladybug seems like only higher level one in cooking), or lower.

ok cool, thanks for the info. See that is what I thought too ... there is a synergy recipe, but also a regular crafting recipe. The crafting recipe is just higher in the level requirements ( which is what I think synergy is for? To make higher level synths easier because you can team-up with someone. I do appologize for my complete lack of understanding about how synergy works. )
But yeah I see the other wiki has been updated with infos now. A few days ago there was a bunch of ???. And uuggghhh @ farming/trying to buy off the AH derfland humus and lesser chigoes.

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The recipe Psion listed on the previous page worked - dark crystal / beech log / dance-sleep-woozy shroom ... although sadly it broke. lol
I bought the log off the AH ( 13k -.- wtfthx ) ... so until that price goes down or an alt. source comes up, gonna wait to try another synth. I think next one I will try with WW guild support, and see if that makes a difference.

[Pearlsea]

I could see BST/DNC with the snow rabbit pet to be a niche offhealer for 6 man abyssea farming groups. The pet does good damage over time even at 76. Add in instant curaga III every 3 mins, free box step, sambas, off heals, and the dual wield dot of the bst and its fairly decent. It's only going to get better at 90 with haste samba.

[Amiricle]

The idea probably came from steamed sprouts bcnm people actually used to do back in the day. The black mandy in that casts freeze.

Thats exactly where it came from.

[NynJa]

All the new jug synths can be main crafted. They don't require synergy. Synergy just makes it easier to make it at a lower level overall between 2+ people with synergy as the key, plus no breaks at cost of fewl.

I've made them all and even posted addendum's on Wiki about them working with crystals.

Even the Funguar one worked for a woodworking 60 buddy, but I think its main wood working, I was HQ2-3 on the other synths that are cooking, putting them at my craft level in the 50-65 range(Ladybug seems like only higher level one in cooking), or lower.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...701_010241.png

looks like cooks got off lucky.


SE needs to fuck off with this Synergy shit. I cant even use my WW mule to make them because its lv5 and the overloads going to kill it instantly.

[Cesaria]

Did some mucking around with Stout Servant today. Basically I've got an alt at 76 BST and my main's at 78 BST so have a comparison of trait active/not active. Called Carrie (was using old jugs up) on both chars, and tried to make it as equal as possible - so no pet stat+, no AF2 gloves etc, although Ces does have beast affinity merits and my mule doesn't.

Fought West Altep Cactuars down to under 20%, heel/stay/snarled both pets so they were the only things in range with hate and spammed spells to feed the mob TP.

When I was in range as well (I was trying to heel/stay Carrie in the right place) 333(me)/333(Lusien's Carrie - 76 BST)/317(Cesaria's Carrie - 78 BST)

Straight split 1k needles - Cesaria's Carrie (has job trait at lvl 78) 476/Lusien's Carrie (no job trait as he's 76) 500 damage. Came out as this a few times before I got bored.

Looks like it IS 5% reduction or as good as. I'm no great person at the Mathematical Fantasy XI game though so I await being corrected if I'm wrong.

[Talli]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...701_010241.png

looks like cooks got off lucky.


SE needs to fuck off with this Synergy shit. I cant even use my WW mule to make them because its lv5 and the overloads going to kill it instantly.

this pissed me off to, arrows have always been WW.. fletchings stayed cloth, heads stayed bone.. arrows moved to synergy.. they have done nothing but shaft WWs for the last 4-5 updates and its SHIT! only good thing is i have lvl 70 synergy so not total loss.. principal though.

[NynJa]

this pissed me off to, arrows have always been WW.. fletchings stayed cloth, heads stayed bone.. arrows moved to synergy.. they have done nothing but shaft WWs for the last 4-5 updates and its SHIT! only good thing is i have lvl 70 synergy so not total loss.. principal though.

I'm pissed off because the pet jugs that are supposed to be "synergy only", can actually be synthed via crafting.


http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...701_113304.png
Well atleast I can synth em by having my WW mule standing out of range...but I have no chance to HQ this -.-

[Talli]

I'm pissed off because the pet jugs that are supposed to be "synergy only", can actually be synthed via crafting.


http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...701_113304.png
Well atleast I can synth em by having my WW mule standing out of range...but I have no chance to HQ this -.-

finally manages to get BC to make me some arrowheads. 6 synths got me 3 stacks +66.. real easy to HQ with synergy.. much less random than normal synthing.. which is kind of nice. as for the jugs pets.. even at 70 the Funguar is a bitch.. the rest are a joke really.

Oh yeah.. and your mule can be at moghuse.. as long as its in pt it will work.. unless they changed it.