Abyssea - Tahrongi Discussion

[Xanthe]

Viridian Abyssite of Lenity confirmed for the POIDH crowd:

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Completed 5 times. She didn't give it to me immediately after the fifth so I zoned. After zoning she gave me the abyssite when I talked to her and would no longer offer the quest, though expected considering her daughter is no longer sick.

[Belkin]

Just a note on background mythology, looking for any hints on Quetzalli's pop behavior.

Quetzalli is also from Nahuatl, like Mictlantecuhtli. Naturally, Mic'ey and Quetzlcoatl are both from Aztec mythology. The name "quetzal" is from Nahuatl quetzalli, "large brilliant tail feather". I don't know if they're trying to reference Quetzalcoatl (feathered serpent God) in any way, but if they are, here are a few excerpts about Quetz,


Special spawn condition? Perhaps time of day or vanadiel day? It mentions our time being that of the "fifth sun" after the other four; The first 4 vanadiel days are the "main" 4 elements, fire, earth, water, and wind.
It also mentions stuff about Quetzcoatl putting Mictlantecutli in the Mictlan underworld, as well as later going down there at one point to steal some of Mic'ey's bones from his collection.

Don't know if this really has anything to do with Quetzalli's pop conditions, but thought I'd throw it out there.

In response, has anybody killed Mictlantecutli then went to check Quetzalli over by bats? He might only be up while Mict is dead. Would explain why it disappeared without being killed. Just a thought.

[miokomioko]

Is there still no report on what the T3 VNM is in Abyssea-Tahrongi? I am assuming it's a Craver named Usurper. Hopefully I can get my Colorful to turn Viridian tonight...

[Fottiti]

Just dual boxed Cuelebre as 80 rdm/sch + 75 rdm/blm. Rdm/blm was without full gear swaps for nukes/poison so most drains/aspir/poisons/nukes cast by it were resisted. Rdm/sch was fully geared and merited but doesn't have morrigans or anything special (dalm/D chap). Both had full MDT idle gear and it was hitting for about 75-80 in it although many hits were taken in casting gear for 110ish.

Rdm/sch died once during fight due to lag/slow reactions and it took about 55 minutes using a ledge near encampment to avoid AoEs.

Rdm/sch with full meds, better gear and not dual box could easily solo this in a similar time frame, 2 rdm/sch should be able to get it well under 30mins.

[Anomander]

No idea what happened but Minhacoa shit all over us today. We hit its weakness a couple times, it was "Aspir." But it seemed to get stronger every time, until we couldn't land a hit and slug shots were doing 80 damage.

Anyone have any ideas?

Note: the exclamation points were green

[NynJa]

No idea what happened but Minhacoa shit all over us today. We hit its weakness a couple times, it was "Aspir." But it seemed to get stronger every time, until we couldn't land a hit and slug shots were doing 80 damage.

Anyone have any ideas?

Note: the exclamation points were green

patch notes do state to not abuse the weakness over and over.

[Anomander]

patch notes do state to not abuse the weakness over and over.

It became much harder after the first time. Also, patch notes state nothing about it making the monster stronger, simply that it removes the treasure drop increase.

Anyone have any actual useful information?

Edit: Noticed that wiki mentioned there are 3 different colors for exclamation points. Perhaps a green exclamation buffs the monster if cast on it, and should be avoided

[Evane]

There are green, blue and red exclamation points. I believe that red terrorizes the NM, blue enhances equipments drop rate and green enhances synthesis materials/money drop rate.

[Gwynplaine]

All the text says that I've seen is that using it repeatedly can make the weakness not work anymore since the NM adapts and changes to something else. That doesn't neccessarily have any other implications. It could just be so that it's less easy to abuse the movement/ability crippling for solo or low man or whatever.

On the topic of fame and quests, has anyone been able to flag the 10th highest fame quest in Tahrongi? I don't even know what the name of it is, but some female taru gives it. You need to kill one of the free-spawn NMs and get some kind of drop from it.

[Maliciousmisery]

1/1

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[Anomander]

Hmm. Well, it was the case that after a single hit on its weakness the monsters evasion and defense took a big rise. Much later in the fight, we tried hitting it again thinking it would make it weaker again. Thats when we realized it was growing stronger with each hit on the weakness.

[miokomioko]

and in that same run, my abyssite upgraded to Viridian Demilune Abyssite. Maybe a Tahrongi T3 in the near future. I'm assuming it will shatter upon popping the T3 VNM just like normal zones, right?

[Neosutra]

I've had a green !! trigger on La Theine Leige that made it rage (after being triggered a few times). Thing went from being a pushover to doing -nothing- but casting ga 3 -> then three back to back Venoms -> Ga3 over and over with no other actions, and it's def went through the roof. So the triggers definitely have the ability (somehow) to rage/piss off the mob.

[thetruepandagod]

Is there still no report on what the T3 VNM is in Abyssea-Tahrongi? I am assuming it's a Craver named Usurper. Hopefully I can get my Colorful to turn Viridian tonight...

Fought him over a week ago hes a giant bitch.

We only had about 25-28min til time out when we popped him and didnt realize it so half of us timed out at 60%. Melee are awful on this, bring smn's and blms and rng's. He does blood weapon repeatedly(which also gives attack speed bonus to it) and was hitting our pld for's for 1900's occasionally.

[Kalasin]

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Nice to see I was right~ grats on the drop.

[Shamaya]

I've heard other reports of La Theine liege going nuts. When I fought it it was so passive and easy. I suppose it's a new trend for SE to have mobs vary in difficulty. I'm fully confident that Yilbegan isn't the only VNM mob that has a hard and a weak version.

Perhaps this has something to do with why all of a sudden at our Ceulebre went from passive and easy to nuke to full-resists, endless stoneskin, and mighty strikes at roughly minute intervals. Of course there's also the wikipedia thing about growing "stronger with time", though it seem strange some people are able to fight him for an hour with no problem, yet another group encountered invincible stoneskin only ~30 minutes in. And I suppose I never saw any !!'s either.

[Neosutra]

This Leige wasnt a time issue though. We were on our like 5th pop, and triggered !! at start (with flash), then again a little bit later... About the 3rd time I used flash it FLIPPED OUT. Never had it happen again.

[Kilik]

Finishing up a exp/farm run that was focused on farming key items. Ended with:

Me - Lacovie 2/2 Chloris 4/4 Glavoid 4/4
Member2 - Lacovie 1/2 Chloris 3/4 Glavoid 2/4
Member3 - Chloris 1/4 Glavoid 2/4

Being able to get tons of exp while farming pops for the bosses is so nice.

[Edrakali]

Finishing up a exp/farm run that was focused on farming key items. Ended with:

Me - Lacovie 2/2 Chloris 4/4 Glavoid 4/4
Member2 - Lacovie 1/2 Chloris 3/4 Glavoid 2/4
Member3 - Chloris 1/4 Glavoid 2/4

Being able to get tons of exp while farming pops for the bosses is so nice.

Cool. May I ask how did you build up amber lights? Also, did any of your DD have Viridian abyssite of destiny? Any more details about the alliance setup or the camp is welcome too. Thanks in advance. ^^

[Anomander]

This Leige wasnt a time issue though. We were on our like 5th pop, and triggered !! at start (with flash), then again a little bit later... About the 3rd time I used flash it FLIPPED OUT. Never had it happen again.

Ah, ok this helps a lot. The first time we triggered it we weren't sure what it was (a lot of spells landed at once) and much later in the fight someone found it was aspir. Each successive cast made the worm harder and harder, even the first. (I was doing noticeably less damage than when we came back and owned it later that run). Eventually, it was nearly impossible to hit and when I finally did land a ranged attack, I crit'd for zero (we already knew we couldn't finish it off at that point, it was a supreme struggle to do damage after 3 aspirs and it would just gorge its hp back, so we threw a few more aspirs at it to make sure that was the case).

Curious to see if this is always the case with green !!!. We have nailed a weakness on a previous worm and chukwa, but neither of them got any bit harder. Cannot recall the colors however.