Abyssea - Tahrongi Discussion

[FailureMidgard]

I still like the 8 hour windows idea. Anyone have an experience that would be contradicted if we shifted everything 1 game hour? 7->15->23?

Not 100% certain, but we've popped a lot of stuff almost instantly as it switched to 22:01-22:02 and procced blues. I can go look and try to mess with my clock to confirm in a bit.

That being said, another possibility is if there's actually overlapping windows (say 10hrs):

Blunt 21-7
Piercing 5-15
Slashing 13-23

Would make any of our 8hr windows (22-6) have the first and last hr of it have 2x the possibilities of which WS procs it, while still allowing the stated type to be correct, making it seem wrong some of the time?

[FailureMidgard]

Not 100% certain, but we've popped a lot of stuff almost instantly as it switched to 22:01-22:02 and procced blues. I can go look and try to mess with my clock to confirm in a bit.

That being said, another possibility is if there's actually overlapping windows (say 10hrs):

Blunt 21-7
Piercing 5-15
Slashing 13-23

Would make any of our 8hr windows (22-6) have the first and last hr of it have 2x the possibilities of which WS procs it, while still allowing the stated type to be correct, making it seem wrong some of the time?

10-22-2010, CST
[20:28:52]Lost key item: Overgrown mandragora flower
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[20:28:52]Lost key item: Chipped sandworm tooth
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[20:38:51]Laron readies Asuran Fists.
[20:38:51]Your attack staggers the fiend!
[20:44:29]Chita defeats the Lacovie.

Windsday began at 19:36:00 and ended at 20:33:36
Full day is 1hr minus 2minutes and 24 seconds (144 seconds), or 3600-144 sec=3456 sec.
Each hour is 3456/24=144 seconds.
22:00 was thus 144*22=288sec (4min48sec) before 20:33:36, or 20:28:48.

So yea, seems that was popped within seconds of 22:00.

[Atoreis]

Ramuh server had no Myrmecoleon for a long time so I fought it today first time didnt know what to expect. Duo box WHM+BRD and me as MNK. Brd died at pull, then I needed to kill lamenter aggro. I wasnt expecting dmg from this lightning move (its % based I think) and stripga. Bind is pretty silly too on sandpit when you need to face to mobs (for counters) and cant move XD. It was most funny fight ever in abyssea 1/1 Tactical Mantle for my friend (22/50 cirein for Masamune).

[Deader2818]

What does Bind have to do with facing the mob?

[Atoreis]

What does Bind have to do with facing the mob?

It binds you and summon add that attack you with pit ambush and its "on you" (stand in exactly same spot as you and you need to move to be able to attack it). You can still stand face to face to Myrm but add will be hitting you.

[Odin'sLaw]

It binds you and summon add that attack you with pit ambush and its "on you" (stand in exactly same spot as you and you need to move to be able to attack it). You can still stand face to face to Myrm but add will be hitting you.

errr take auto lock off? stun yeah can't move bind can still pivot 360 degree's

[Atoreis]

errr take auto lock off? stun yeah can't move bind can still pivot 360 degree's

I think you not get it.

I face to Myrm he do sandpit and add do pit ambush at me and its directly at me ( like "in me" ). I could probably try to turn to try to hit the add somehow but i would then stay back to myrm and he hits for 300-500 and pretty fast since slow not working.

[Amok]

You can blink a few times to inch back so you're facing both, not that you asked or that it was an issue. Just a general suggestion.

[Atoreis]

You can blink a few times to inch back so you're facing both, not that you asked or that it was an issue. Just a general suggestion.

Idk if moving by blink is fast enough to take mobs off you. the situation what im talking sometimes happen if you fight to many mobs and they jump on you like that

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9083/przykladh.png

If you move slow it will follow and still be "in you". Only way to be free from it is run one direction, so idk if blink move would be enough. Anyway I'm not planing to fight it again since we needed mantle :D

[NynJa]

he means if you're bound, if you blink your gear while holding a movement key down, you can move.

[Phraust]

May have missed something, but perhaps VNM weaknesses are based on when the mob becomes poppable?

Just to add:

JUST tried this, the mob went from "No monsters in the area" to "No monsters in the immediate vicinity" at 7:05 Game time; we pop and claimed at like 00:30, the trigger was Spinning Attack (Blunt, H2H)

(Gots me mah Ocelot Trousers too! *happy dance*)

[Phraust]

Also worth noting, Usurper's Impailment weapon skill isn't always the normal "Throat Stab" ability (Leaving you with 5%ish health); it one hit my Thief for 2,324 damage, which is over my HP, and one hit our mnk several times in upwards of 4,500 damage.

[NynJa]

Who gave the information that Manannagal drops Avarice? I've killed it twice now, procing red both times, and my mules arent getting Avarice Abyssite. Incase its coming up as viable debate, first time I claimed it, second time I had a mule without the abyssite claim it, so thats not a problem. It did however drop destiny as expected.

[Rowanbael]

An ls mate has definitely gotten Avarice off of Manananggal. Although he drops multiple abyssites, it appears he only drops one at a time. Did you get Destiny both times? If so, you may need to kill again to get it (and I'm not sure if/how this is complicated with abyssites going to alliance now).

[fredjanx]

Yeah, I got my abyssite of avarice off Manananggal, too. But I already had the other two abyssites.

[Garota]

Attempted to get some Abyssites off of Ephemeral Limules and Clionids and off of Bhumi as update patch indicated, "Abyssite obtained from defeating NMs will be granted to all alliance members." No dice for neither Ephemerals nor Bhumi... It did however work for us in La Thiene when some of us killed Chasmic Hornet and others were fighting Crapaudies...

[Hanyoko]

Attempted to get some Abyssites off of Ephemeral Limules and Clionids and off of Bhumi as update patch indicated, "Abyssite obtained from defeating NMs will be granted to all alliance members." No dice for neither Ephemerals nor Bhumi... It did however work for us in La Thiene when some of us killed Chasmic Hornet and others were fighting Crapaudies...

So you are saying that only one person got the abyssite from Bhumi or just that you didnt get a drop? They are not 100% drops.

[Kaslo]

So you are saying that only one person got the abyssite from Bhumi or just that you didnt get a drop? They are not 100% drops.

From my testing those are still, if it drops only drops to puller. And the Abyssite to all alliance members is just for actual NMs.

[AzazaelFenrir]

From my testing those are still, if it drops only drops to puller. And the Abyssite to all alliance members is just for actual NMs.

I would agree with this. After trying to kill Bhumi's the other night and only having the abyssite go the puller we just decided to go red the corse and save some time.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Over the weekend we kept looking for Quetzalli, and saw him alive, just not popped the whole night. Did his spawn conditions (whatever they are) not get changed? did anyone ever figure out what his spawn conditions actually were?