Abyssea - La Theine Discussion

**Zag** · 2010-07-12 19:39

Assuming Iratham will drop the Bullwhip belt? Or will it end up dropping like the behemoth. No offense to BRDs or anything but that isn't what I would call a TOP tier type drop.

I cannot imagine Bullwhip belt dropping from MMM so I'm going to say either
Iratham >>> Walk of echos >>> Yilgeban >>> MMM in that order.

Those titles will probably be needed for future empyrean trial requiring x3 titles. Can't see any other use to make those mob so long to pop for "nothing"

**FailureMidgard** · 2010-07-12 20:00

Originally Posted by Neosutra

Solo SA I guess lol?

I guess Eccentric Eve still has the title for "best zone boss drops".

Not according to Shamaya

1Dex = 2.58 (d.a.)
1Str = 1.20 (d.a.)
1Attack = 1.19 (d.a.)

Heca wins, even those Dex legs off the tiger win...this piece is just terrible, and -storeTP seems pretty bad too.

**Zag** · 2010-07-12 20:08

Originally Posted by FailureMidgard

Not according to Shamaya

Heca wins, even those Dex legs off the tiger win...this piece is just terrible, and -storeTP seems pretty bad too.

Would hope they have a hidden effect cause they do look terrible, almost too terrible to be suspious.

**Darkmagi** · 2010-07-12 20:24

Really hope behemoth has some better drop than that. Those pants are completely shit unless your going for some otherwise unreachable dex tier for a crit ws...

**urat** · 2010-07-12 20:44

Might be good for capping out dDex for evisceration on higher end mobs mayhaps?

**Shadida** · 2010-07-12 22:09

F all that... no Ancient Beast Horns? So does this mean they can only be found in Walk or from high tier treasure chests in Abyssea?

ffffffffffuuuuuuuuu-

**shepardG** · 2010-07-12 22:36

Check if they're stat's change when holding 3 traverser's stones... ?

From Wiki:

The Matres (Latin "mothers"[1]) and Matrones (Latin "matrons"[1]) were female deities venerated in North-West Europe from the 1st to the 5th century AD. They are depicted on votive objects and altars that bear images of goddesses, depicted almost entirely in groups of three, that feature inscriptions (about half of which feature Celtic names, and half of which feature Germanic names), that were venerated in regions of Germania, Eastern Gaul, and upper Italy (with a small distribution elsewhere) that were occupied by the Roman army from the first to the fifth century AD.[2]
Information about the religious practices surrounding the Matres is limited to the stones on which their depictions and inscriptions are found, of which over 1,100 exist.[2] The Germanic matres have been connected with the later Germanic dísir, valkyries, and norns attested largely in 13th century sources.[1]

Other word is a term for "Long Pants" /shrug

Or they could just suck .... Says the dude who bought an Acerbic Sash for 2mil >< stupid ass sash (Bio dosen't affect it btw)

**miokomioko** · 2010-07-12 22:38

Sheesh, it would be one thing if these pieces of gear had all negative stats. Shitty gear with stupid stat-tradeoffs is just shitty gear.

**urat** · 2010-07-12 22:43

Try wearing the awesome viking horn with it? Set effect: Look how huge my penis is?

**Azuark** · 2010-07-12 22:47

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1278992809

Dunno if anyone has said it yet. Megamaw Mikey 1/1 Scythe and Atma of Tremors :3

**Spira** · 2010-07-12 23:04

how about.. wear 3 pieces of gear that specifically come with negative stats and it gives a hidden set bonus?

Its possible he drops another piece of eq too. Not to mention his atma

**Mazmaz** · 2010-07-12 23:18

I threw it away stop asking!

**Spira** · 2010-07-12 23:19

Also this is a bit of a guesstimation apart from the ones we can already confirm... but if i'm not wrong, the atma list in each zone follows a specific order, from highest tier to lowest, and based on what mob it is..... so it should be...

01: Atma of the Lion - Hadhayosh
02: Atma of the Stout Arm - Briareus
03: Atma of the Twin Claw - Karkinos
04: Atma of Allure - Carabosse
05: Atma of Eternity - Ruminator
06: Atma of the Heavens - Ovni
07: Atma of the Baying Moon - Lugarhoo (confirmed)
08: Atma of the Ebon Hoof - Trudging Thomas
09: Atma of Tremors - Megamaw Mikey (confirmed)
10: Atma of the Savage Tiger - Megantereon (confirmed)

**Neosutra** · 2010-07-13 01:52

Originally Posted by FailureMidgard

Not according to Shamaya

Heca wins, even those Dex legs off the tiger win...this piece is just terrible, and -storeTP seems pretty bad too.

In pure damage yes, but remember the calculations on solo SA and solo TA over time, it's horrible to SA/TA in slow%. It's actually better to SA in nothing at all than it is for you to SA in Hecatomb (as far as total DoT goes).

Next best solo SA legs are Oily/Enkidu, and that blows both pair out of the water.

I know it isnt what we want for a zone boss, but those pants are pretty great to a good thf.

**Shadida** · 2010-07-13 02:11

Are Atmas one of those "only 1 person gets the key item" deals or does everyone in ally get?

**Zag** · 2010-07-13 06:48

Originally Posted by Shadida

Are Atmas one of those "only 1 person gets the key item" deals or does everyone in ally get?

Everyone gets them. Thats why it is important to get used to finding atma weaknesses on these NMs. Bring PLD,BLU,DRK,RDMs and SAMs. They are excellent for finding magic based "!!!" and SAMs are good for finding WS based "!!!". Still trying to figure out if a mob cycles between like 10 atma weaknesses and follow a specific pattern OR if they are completely random (which would suck).

**Plow** · 2010-07-13 06:59

Originally Posted by Zag

Everyone gets them. Thats why it is important to get used to finding atma weaknesses on these NMs. Bring PLD,BLU,DRK,RDMs and SAMs. They are excellent for finding magic based "!!!" and SAMs are good for finding WS based "!!!". Still trying to figure out if a mob cycles between like 10 atma weaknesses and follow a specific pattern OR if they are completely random (which would suck).

I've had a mob give me !! with kurayami, and it wasn't doing it with blind.

I think this shit is reeeally specific. (the trigger, that is, no clue on if there's patterns or not)

**Darkmagi** · 2010-07-13 06:59

Originally Posted by Neosutra

In pure damage yes, but remember the calculations on solo SA and solo TA over time, it's horrible to SA/TA in slow%. It's actually better to SA in nothing at all than it is for you to SA in Hecatomb (as far as total DoT goes).

Next best solo SA legs are Oily/Enkidu, and that blows both pair out of the water.

I know it isnt what we want for a zone boss, but those pants are pretty great to a good thf.

And that's where the new atk+15 dex pants come in.

**Zeratu** · 2010-07-13 09:08

Speaking of !!s, when we did Briareus last night(Needed key item for Hadhayosh), Gekko was causing blue !!s, instead of the usual green. Anyone else experience anything like this?

**Neosutra** · 2010-07-13 09:43

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

And that's where the new atk+15 dex pants come in.

Ah shit I forgot about those.

Good call.

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