Abyssea - La Theine Discussion

[fredjanx]

In which case, why would he switch to war and sam whenever he has a dnc, instead of having a good scythe? And furthermore, if he loves drk that much, why not just do a trial for a better weapon even outside of having dnc?

If he does a magian scythe, he better not gimp it up with the Spiral Hell+ Scythe, Ultimatum, or lowers eva/lowers def scythes (which take longer to get than the STR or DEX Absolutions, imo)
Although, Plaga is a solid stepping stone, and better than perdu/etc

[krizz]

a solid stepping stone

Don't you know upgrades are supposed to be done in leaps and bounds and not in steps? Geez, what a noob.

[Byrthnoth]

A friend soloed the first three trials for the Spiral Hell scythe last night on DRK/SAM in a few hours. The Spiral Hell weapon is D109, 528 delay, and requires something like 1100 WS uses, which is jack shit for so good a weapon.

Full Perle (most) DRKs cannot reasonably 5-hit the STP Scythe. Redemption and Penitence are both incredibly unreasonable for the casual player. Plaga is D106 and cancels Haste Samba. The Casual DRK/SAM should wear:

Main: Spiral Hell Scythe (D109, 528 delay, Spiral Hell Damage+10%)
Sub: Sword Strap
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Perle
Neck: Peacock Charm
Ear1: Abyssal or Assault
Ear2: Brutal
Body: Perle
Hands: Perle
Ring1: Blitz
Ring2: Rajas
Back: Forager's
Waist: Swift
Legs: Perle
Feet: Perle

Sword Strap, Fire Bomblet, Peacock Charm, Assault Earring, Blitz Ring, Forager's Mantle = ~2-2.5mil these days?

And yes, spam Guillotine. If you have Acc issues, eat Pizza instead of meat. At most level 75 events you will be able to eat meat. You picked up an invisible 45 Accuracy over what you used to have.

[fredjanx]

A friend soloed the first three trials for the Spiral Hell scythe last night on DRK/SAM in a few hours. The Spiral Hell weapon is D109, 528 delay, and requires something like 1100 WS uses, which is jack shit for so good a weapon.

Full Perle (most) DRKs cannot reasonably 5-hit the STP Scythe. Redemption and Penitence are both incredibly unreasonable for the casual player. Plaga is D106 and cancels Haste Samba. The Casual DRK/SAM should wear:

Main: Spiral Hell Scythe (D109, 528 delay, Spiral Hell Damage+10%)
Sub: Sword Strap
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Perle
Neck: Peacock Charm
Ear1: Abyssal or Assault
Ear2: Brutal
Body: Perle
Hands: Perle
Ring1: Blitz
Ring2: Rajas
Back: Forager's
Waist: Swift
Legs: Perle
Feet: Perle

Sword Strap, Fire Bomblet, Peacock Charm, Assault Earring, Blitz Ring, Forager's Mantle = ~2-2.5mil these days?

And yes, spam Guillotine. If you have Acc issues, eat Pizza instead of meat. At most level 75 events you will be able to eat meat. You picked up an invisible 45 Accuracy over what you used to have.

Just checked out ffxicalc, and sTP Reckoning needs the following gear to 5-hit w/o the loss of good food.... gonna lose some str, a bunch of accuracy, and sword strap, though:
Rose Strap
Rajas Ring
Hoard Ring
Askar Korazin/Aurum Cuirass
Brutal Earring

[Not Kuno]

Ok let's go back to talking about Abyssea or faces will get broken.

[Byrthnoth]

Just checked out ffxicalc, and sTP Reckoning needs the following gear to 5-hit w/o the loss of good food.... gonna lose some str, a bunch of accuracy, and sword strap, though:
Rose Strap
Rajas Ring
Hoard Ring
Askar Korazin/Aurum Cuirass
Brutal Earring

If you don't wear the whole set, you don't get the Haste effect from Perle (aka, body slot is out). Even for someone with the three useful pieces of Homam, full Perle is still better. Plus, Hoard ring makes me go >.<;



So yeah, I was dicking around in Abyssea - La Theine last night and capped my Fame. Along the way, Irrilich agroed me (appears to be True Sound, but non-casting?). He got two hits in and deagroed almost immediately when I took off. Has anyone xped on those Psychopomps? They have only one TP move and it isn't AoE, so chest openers would be spared, and they're generally wussies. Are people afraid of being overwhelmed with their magic agro or something?

[fredjanx]

If you don't wear the whole set, you don't get the Haste effect from Perle (aka, body slot is out). Even for someone with the three useful pieces of Homam, full Perle is still better. Plus, Hoard ring makes me go >.<;



So yeah, I was dicking around in Abyssea - La Theine last night and capped my Fame. Along the way, Irrilich agroed me (appears to be True Sound, but non-casting?). He got two hits in and deagroed almost immediately when I took off. Has anyone xped on those Psychopomps? They have only one TP move and it isn't AoE, so chest openers would be spared, and they're generally wussies. Are people afraid of being overwhelmed with their magic agro or something?

I think the reason people don't exp on those is that they have ice spikes (even if you can dispel it, melee will still get an attack round on them and get para'd)
so... that'd be more work than good ol bats, or the not-that-great mandies
low hp aggro would make that camp a bit nastier for PUGs, too

[Belkin]

There are corpselights in Tahrongi that don't have an NM amongst them. Those would work better I believe.

[Thorny]

I==Even for someone with the three useful pieces of Homam, full Perle is still better.

# STR +22
# DEX +14
# VIT +10
# Attack +25
# Accuracy +18
# Enmity +4
# Haste +9%1
# "Critical hit rate" +2%
Delay-3%
Haste+1% STR+4 DEX+4

Vs

Acc+13
Attack+15
STR+8
DEX+8
STP+7

Eliminate like factors

STR+18
DEX+10
Attack+10
Accuracy+5
Critical Hitrate+2%
3% damage(sword)
3% damage(blitz)

vs

5hit

Assuming you swap perle -> Mix&Match with Aurum, Blitz->Hoard, and Sword->Rose.

DRK is about 50:50 TP:WS in my experience. 25% WS damage is going to be 12.5% overall damage as an average.

Crit+2% = ~.9% damage at capped pdif
Accuracy should be irrelevant. As much as I hate negating it, it's really not needed at all on older content. Same goes for DEX, DRK doesn't hit DDEX tiers. STR+18 is 4 fSTR, on a D:109 weapon that's 3.6% damage. 13.5 attack is going to be ~2.25% damage if not attack capped.

TP: 1.009(crit) * 1.036(fstr) * 1.0225(attack) * 1.03(blitz) * 1.03(sword) * .5(TP/WS) = 6.7% universal damage
WS: 1.03(blitz) * 1.03(sword) * .5(TP/WS) = 3.0% universal damage
6.7 + 3 = 9.7% universal damage

Unless I'm missing something or you need the accuracy, 5hit using aurum will outdo 6hit using perle by a decent margin, even more if fstr or attack are capped. Plus, you don't look like the million mouthbreathers using it on war and sam.

[Byrthnoth]

True, I'm not arguing it's the best. I'm arguing it's the best for the time investment (casual players).

[Not Kuno]

Ok let me put it more bluntly. All posts below that talk about non-abyssea la theine will get you banned for a week.

[Priran]

Otherwiki now lists Toppling Tuber as dropping Cognizant Belt, can anyone confirm this and/or share info on the fight?

[ronin sparthos]

so how about that toppling tuber

anyone killed it yet

Its been beaten and drops Cognizant Belt.

[Waist] All Races
DEF:4 MND+7 Converts 20 HP to MP
LV 80 MNK WHM BLM RDM PLD BRD RNG SMN BLU PUP SCH

My question is if any wikis have information on Karkinos and how exactly he spawns.

[Kalasin]

Its been beaten and drops Cognizant Belt.

[Waist] All Races
DEF:4 MND+7 Converts 20 HP to MP
LV 80 MNK WHM BLM RDM PLD BRD RNG SMN BLU PUP SCH

My question is if any wikis have information on Karkinos and how exactly he spawns.

You need to fish for the crab NM Nahn, at the pond near the Pixie mobs. It will eventually drop a key item upon death, Smouldering crab shell. After that you need to fish in the same pond again, but this time with a Dried Squid as bait dropped by the Poroggo NM in the zone, Poroggo Dom Juan. When you fish with this bait while having the key item, Karkinos will get on the hook.

[Seraphise]

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[Salmijr]

Double helm? Nice

[Guitarman]

besieged level 1 training, by the time they reached level 8 and attacked al zhabi, i had gone 75-80 in abyssea. fucking love this zone.

[deiopea]

Not sure if this has been posted. But Ruminator drops Katana also. I logged on too late to join the group so no SS. DMG45, DEX10 and Fast Cast.

[Sumiko]

Had a fun NM bashing night yesterday Except for a certain crab.

Some people here have popped Nahn... How long did it take you guys? I was fishing for at least half an hour (And I ran around the lake to make sure no one else was around).

On wiki it makes it sound like any monster that you fish up is pretty much gonna be Nahn. -_-; Am I just running into a streak of bad luck?

Halcyon Rod + Lugworms

A few sentinel crabs popped through and I beat them up, got a bunch of rusty items as drops. They're not hard to kill since they're just crabs, so it's good for fame.

[smafdi]

Haven't seen anything posted about Trudging Thomas yet, anyone have any strats or advice on what to take for it?