Abyssea - La Theine Discussion

[Darkmagi]

It's already been said before that it has a chance to reset your JAs to 0 timer. Not like the ACP aoe.

[Priran]

I assume since this isnt a joke mob like a Goblin that when he says "reset a JA" it means Sandworm/Seed Crystal style setting the recast timer to maximum.

That's nice. I'll wait for him to confirm though, especially since he mentions using Invincible and that its timer was reset.

[Spira]

The Smoldering Crab Shell does come from Nahn.

awesome..

now the question is where do we have to check to pop it?

Murky Pond? Deep Fissure? those are used for quests tho...

or perhaps simply fishing while in possession of the key item might pop Karkinos?

edit: also updated my chart accordingly. I've been following mostly LaTheine and Konschtat so far and i must say.. progress is a lot faster in la theine

[Gwynplaine]

Some stuff for OP:

Someone had said Adamastor dropped dented gigas shield, not warped gigas armband. Pantagruel dropped warped gigas armband, not severed gigas collar. And that Grandgousier dropped severed gigas collar, not dented gigas shield.

For VNMs, Tier 1 is Meditator. Tier 2 is Brooder that drops Libbeccio Mantle. And Tier 3 is Ruminator that drops Heafoc Mitts and Kensho Hachimaki.

Stuff for La Theine that is still unknown. Spawn item or key items that Lugarhoo and Toppling Tuber drop are unknown.

Regular enemies that have no pre-spawned NM equivalants with unknown drops are Veld Clionid, Gigadphina, Psychopomp (cointeach), Pasture Funguar, and Crapaudy (frog). Do these drop any pop items or anything special?

And of course the highest tier spawn NM is still unknown too.

[urat]

We're guessing Lug's and Tuber's pop items drop from their respective family of monsters near their ???s, the gnoles and the fungaurs.

On the topic of gnoles. Do they still give an exp bonus like other gnoles on top of abysseas?

Im curious to see how much exp a top tier gnole would give...

[Spira]

based on dat mining, there aren't anymore NM spawning key items left in La Theine to be found..

I dont know if anyone has confirmed a Marbled Mutton Chop drop tho..

Lugarhoo also does drop his Eye as a key item, but its used for a quest with Curilla rather than as a spawn item.

the highest tier spawn NM would most likely be Hadhayosh, which is the elasmoth, aka behemoth reskin.

you could call it pure conjecture but i'm 100% certain that the 'strongest' tier NM in Abyssea will not be an old mob model. It'd either be new or reskinned. There aren't that many new reskins in the game for this update and by elimination we can kinda narrow it down to the Elasmoth, not to mention on the site it shows the Elasmoth to be in la theine...

if this is so, then the only mobs/NMs left to find would be from outside of the main NM system flow...

i think we're almost there in terms of finding Karkinos and actually popping Hadhayosh to confirm his nature.

This leaves us with the Opo Opos, Irrlicht, Ovni and Akash..
Opos are a huge mystery tho... I'm thinking we might be able to find them somehow thru interacting with something that involves trees... possibly at the zoneline to jugner.. or logging?
but the puzzling thing is that even the NQ normal mob ones arent popped.

Another thing i think is worth looking at is the Dried Squid that drops from Dom Juan...
I think its fishing ammo? It's also ra/ex, which implies that it could be a trigger towards a higher tiered NM. Notice how all tier 2 NM here are popped thru key items.. which prevent the trigger from being traded around... putting RA/EX on the fishing bait allows it to be used for fishing, as well as fish up the NM...
thats a huge guess tho really...

[Gwynplaine]

Here's a chart I came up with to spawn the highest tier spawn NM in La Theine. This doesn't cover everything like stand-alone NMs and VNMs though.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2zo9ds0.jpg

[Gwynplaine]

This leaves us with the Opo Opos, Irrlicht, Ovni and Akash..
Opos are a huge mystery tho... I'm thinking we might be able to find them somehow thru interacting with something that involves trees... possibly at the zoneline to jugner.. or logging?
but the puzzling thing is that even the NQ normal mob ones arent popped.

It looks likely that Chloris in Tahrongi will become spawned in some way relating to a quest. If so then it could be possible the opos are related to a quest somehow too. None of the quests there I see sound very Opo-y though.

[CaitsithCrumb]

Killed Chasmic Hornet twice now and no xp either time. It used a form of final sting both times i think, so we didn't get a killshot on it, anyone else notice this on him?

[urat]

You need stunners for the last 5~10% on hornet, have your DDs save tp up for 15~10% then unload everything you have on it.

In fact you want to have as many stunners as possible. The less time Chasmic spends being not stunned the worse.

[muhn]

just killed the hornet and it dropped lancers torque along with 2 stingers also the puller got a exp abyessite

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/w...job/lancer.png

[Kukuk]

just killed the hornet and it dropped lancers torque along with 2 stingers also the puller got a exp abyessite

My crew got Mantle, 2 stingers and the puller,me, got the EXP abyssite.

Any1 gotten the exp Abyssite from something other than NM hornet?

[CaitsithCrumb]

On those 2 hornet kills you guys just listed, did you kill him or did he use final sting? Do you need to kill him for armor drops? We got 1 stinger and 2 stingers in our 2 kills when he used the final sting.

[muhn]

just checked logger and chasmic hornet didnt use the final sting move when we killed

[Auburn]

Here's a chart I came up with to spawn the highest tier spawn NM in La Theine. This doesn't cover everything like stand-alone NMs and VNMs though.

Spoiler: show

http://i46.tinypic.com/14ybbwl.jpg

Just wanted to let you know, though it's nothing major at all, that you listed Adamastor twice instead of Pantagruel.

Anyway, I've been trying to work out a zone boss pop with my ls but we're getting extremely unlucky with the Pantagruel key item drop. I noticed some people had been having problems getting the fly to drop a key item. Has anybody had any issues with this gigas dropping key item as well? Or are both of these just cases of bad luck? heh

Also, as far as Briarius and Carabosse go, how has the conversion rate been for key items on those? I'm really hoping for a 100% conversion since getting the lower tier ones can really be a pain.

[CaitsithCrumb]

Killed megamaw mikey yesterday, without any problems, no links standing surrounded by worms while we killed. Went back with 5 today to kill, killed the glowing mob first if that means anything, and got massive adds during fight. Anyone else noticed things linking/aggroing one time and not the next?

[Gwynplaine]

Just wanted to let you know, though it's nothing major at all, that you listed Adamastor twice instead of Pantagruel.

Thanks, fixed.

[Enygma55]

Killed megamaw mikey yesterday, without any problems, no links standing surrounded by worms while we killed. Went back with 5 today to kill, killed the glowing mob first if that means anything, and got massive adds during fight. Anyone else noticed things linking/aggroing one time and not the next?

During an alliance farming of birds, right after we killed a fire glowing Limule, our xp/cur value got cut in half for a few mins. From like 120xp/25cur to like 60/10. It slowly climbed back up to normal.

I'm thinking the shiny ones have some kind of influence that can change "forces of nature" for lack of a better term. We probably got penalized for not killing it in the correct manner or had a bad light upon us. A proper kill can probably net you a rare key item.

[tymora]

Could be that the "exp chain" is per mob family only.

[Belkin]

Yes, breaking the chain of pulling mobs of the same family will reduce EXP back to their starting values. Not worth it to kill glowing mobs when attempting alliance EXP/cruor farming.