Skyfall (November 9, 2012)

[Pooky]

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Judi Dench's M was a cold corpse at the end of Skyfall--they closed the chapter on that one. If Dench were to return as M, it would likely be as part of another reboot.

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Not necessarily. It seemed to me that Skyfall took place years after Quantum, with the Quantum group still at large (correct me if I'm wrong, but iirc Bond only took out Green indirectly). They could do a movie in between Quantum and Skyfall to tie up that plot and bring Dench back for M. Doubtful, but the possibility is there.

It's not really new continuity. They brought it back full circle, now it's like it was before Goldeneye.

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To me it felt like it took place after Goldeneye, but that could just be me overthinking the exploding pen line.

Just got back from seeing it, loved the nods to the previous Bond films.

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I was dying laughing when Q dropped the exploding pen line. No one else in the theater got it...I feel old now ._.

[Sunrider]

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Not necessarily. It seemed to me that Skyfall took place years after Quantum, with the Quantum group still at large (correct me if I'm wrong, but iirc Bond only took out Green indirectly). They could do a movie in between Quantum and Skyfall to tie up that plot and bring Dench back for M. Doubtful, but the possibility is there.

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I understand what you mean. However, I don't think they'd go through that sort of continuity gymnastics... but it is possible. I'm glad I'm not the only one eager to see the Quantum case resolved, though as of this film, I resigned myself to them tracking down and dismantling Quantum between QoS and Skyfall.

A shame, since I really wanted to see Bond settle the score with Mr. White.

[Lonewind]

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I understand what you mean. However, I don't think they'd go through that sort of continuity gymnastics... but it is possible. I'm glad I'm not the only one eager to see the Quantum case resolved, though as of this film, I resigned myself to them tracking down and dismantling Quantum between QoS and Skyfall.

A shame, since I really wanted to see Bond settle the score with Mr. White.

I agree with you both

[Seraph]

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I understand what you mean. However, I don't think they'd go through that sort of continuity gymnastics... but it is possible. I'm glad I'm not the only one eager to see the Quantum case resolved, though as of this film, I resigned myself to them tracking down and dismantling Quantum between QoS and Skyfall.

A shame, since I really wanted to see Bond settle the score with Mr. White.

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I assumed that either Quantum had been dealt with offscreen between QoS and Skyfall, or that the threat in Skyfall had taken priority over them since MI6 had personally screwed up with the leaked agent list, and then was directly attacked. In theory Quantum could still be off licking its wounds somewhere. Bond does seem very eager at the end of Skyfall to go out and bust some heads...

Either way, I really enjoyed Skyfall. 9.0/10.0

[wipers]

The movie was good but certainly not the best bond movie ever. Still think Casino Royale was better.

[Lonewind]

from the performance of this movie, does this gets MGM out of the crapper that they were in?

[ronin sparthos]

The movie was good but certainly not the best bond movie ever. Still think Casino Royale was better.

It's because Casino had so much going for it.

The initial two kills for 00 status, integrating the gunbarrel and leading into the opening Chris Cornell theme.
The parkour scene.
The meeting between Vesper and Bond on the train.
Eva Green being a fantastic modern Bond girl.
Le Chiffre and the Poker game.
Bond getting poisoned and tortured.
The relationship between Bond and Vesper.
Felix and Mathis.
The plot twist.

That doesn't even get into the gritty feel of the fight scenes and the physical, in-your-face tussles between Bond and his adversaries. Casino gives you everything you've come to want in a James Bond flick and managed to add its own distinctiveness to the franchise.

Either way, Daniel Craig has already proven himself to be a better Bond than Brosnan and Moore in my book, even with Quantum on his record. If he can squeak out two more movies of the same quality of Casino or Skyfall he's set.

[Jefe]

It was godlike.

[Sho]

It's because Casino had so much going for it.

The initial two kills for 00 status, integrating the gunbarrel and leading into the opening Chris Cornell theme.
The parkour scene.
The meeting between Vesper and Bond on the train.
Eva Green being a fantastic modern Bond girl.
Le Chiffre and the Poker game.
Bond getting poisoned and tortured.
The relationship between Bond and Vesper.
Felix and Mathis.
The plot twist.

That doesn't even get into the gritty feel of the fight scenes and the physical, in-your-face tussles between Bond and his adversaries. Casino gives you everything you've come to want in a James Bond flick and managed to add its own distinctiveness to the franchise.

Either way, Daniel Craig has already proven himself to be a better Bond than Brosnan and Moore in my book, even with Quantum on his record. If he can squeak out two more movies of the same quality of Casino or Skyfall he's set.

Woah now, lets not get carried away here.

[Serra]

Brosnan was too.. goofy (let's go with that) as a Bond.

[kuronosan]

Moore was far more goofy. Pierce was great in the first two. Bad writing and constant dick jokes killed the last two.

[ronin sparthos]

Brosnan gets Goldeneye and The World is not Enough. Die Another Day and Tomorrow Never Dies were terrible but what sunk Brosnan were those bad scripts and a lack of focus for his character which seemed to be all over the place.

One scene you'd get a serious bsns Dalton style Bond and then a Roger Moore style comedy piece coupled together with some Connery mannerisms sprinkled in for good measure. For better or worse the other actors put their style on the character but Brosnan just seemed to going through the motions in his films.

[Melena]

Brosnan was a good Bond, but I think Craig and Connery were better. TND just had major issues and it trickled into the game. We actually dubbed it Tomorrow Never Ships when I worked at EA when we failed the CQC Beta 30 minutes in (for those who don't know, CQC is final testing, product would go gold within a week or two tops of going to CQC) and ended up being delayed two or three months.

[Tyrath]

Well that was a damn good movie, even if I was spoiled on the final bit of it. Loved the action, loved how personal and tied to the ground the plot was, and loved Daniel Craig as bond. Could've probably used more of the bond girls though. Kept thinking in the 3rd act that M was replacing them. I guess it was necessary.

Definitely the best Daniel Craig Bond film, if not the best Bond film.

[Corrderio]

Brosnan was too.. goofy (let's go with that) as a Bond.

He wasn't too bad. Moore was the goofy bond in my book. Though I will admit I thought Brosnan was a good Bond.

Wish I still had some of my old movies. I can't remember how Connery played Bond.

[kuronosan]

Connery was probably the best Bond because he was the perfect mixture of wit, humor, sincerity, and intellect. None of this goofy Moore shit. Dalton's Bond was perfectly serious but he was only given two movies to work with, Lazenby was great as Bond but only had one. Brosnan's movies declined in writing power as they went on.

Dalton and Craig are very similar in their portrayals. Connery's Bond worked very well in his movies (he played Bond the most times).

[Melena]

So I will admit I didn't really get into Bond until much later though i've seen a couple of the older Connery ones. Which ones would you recommend picking up and which ones to avoid? I know Moonraker is up there on the WTF is this shit list but curious as to what the more seasoned Bond Connoisseurs think. I have already seen all the Brosnan and Craig bonds as it is.

[kuronosan]

Avoid Thunderball, Die Another Day, and the later Moore films. Watch all the others in order.

Moore was fine in Man with Golden Gun and Moonraker is good for a laugh. Goldfinger, Goldeneye, On Her Majesty's SS, Licence to Kill, Never Say Never (remake of Thunderball), From Russia with Love, and Diamonds are Forever are great flicks.

Edit: don't forget Octopussy

[Serra]

It's been a few years (like 10..), but I used to love The Spy Who Loved Me -- it's Moore's 3rd one.

[kuronosan]

Yea, it's one of his earlier ones.