Skyfall (November 9, 2012)

**kuronosan** · 2012-11-19 10:42

I suggest people go watch some of the other Bond movies and read the novels.

Moneypenny and Bond NEVER hook up and never will. The second they do is the second you know you're watching the last Bond movie.

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-11-19 12:00

Originally Posted by Salodin

Every one is new to this apparently. Its a running joke, he always wants to bang money penny but he never does. And money penny really wants that bond dick, but never gets it.

This.

Bond never has sex with Moneypenny, ever. It's a running gag. The guy who fucks anything that moves refuses to have sex with the fangirl throwing herself at him.

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-11-19 12:14

Originally Posted by Melena

So I will admit I didn't really get into Bond until much later though i've seen a couple of the older Connery ones. Which ones would you recommend picking up and which ones to avoid? I know Moonraker is up there on the WTF is this shit list but curious as to what the more seasoned Bond Connoisseurs think. I have already seen all the Brosnan and Craig bonds as it is.

Connery's best:
From Russia w/Love
Goldfinger

Connery's worst:
Diamonds are Forever (Connery phones in Bond)
Never Say Never Again (terrible Thunderball retread)

Lazenby:
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (A must see.)

Moore's best:
The Spy Who Loved Me
For Your eyes Only

Moore's worst:
Moonraker (I know this was to cash in on spaaaaace but jfc its lame)
A View to a Kill (the only thing this movie has going for it is Walken and Grace Jones)

Dalton's two Bond movies have very different tones but both are solid entries. If you liked Craig, Dalton is the prototype for his Bond portrayal.

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-11-19 12:22

Originally Posted by Salodin

Every one is new to this apparently. Its a running joke, he always wants to bang money penny but he never does. And money penny really wants that bond dick, but never gets it.

I really hope people aren't dumb enough to think that this is what the Bond/Moneypenney dynamic is about.

**Salodin** · 2012-11-19 13:20

Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass

I really hope people aren't dumb enough to think that this is what the Bond/Moneypenney dynamic is about.

Enlighten us.

**Correction** · 2012-11-19 13:33

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

A View to a Kill (the only thing this movie has going for it is Walken and Grace Jones)

And the Duran Duran theme.

**Serra** · 2012-11-19 13:35

Originally Posted by Sepukku

This.

People suggesting he banged/will bang Moneypenny are so far off its ridiculous. There'd be riots in London if 007 writers ever had the two actually hook up, its one of the cornerstones of the series. It'd be like if Q gave him a M16 instead of a handgun or if he drove a Honda.

Well, he drove a Ford in Casino Royale.. (Still don't think he'll ever sleep with Moneypenny.)

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-11-19 13:38

Originally Posted by Correction

And the Duran Duran theme.

Fair point.

**Sho** · 2012-11-19 14:54

Originally Posted by Salodin

Enlighten us.

It's both simple and complex. People just see the simple fact that they will never hook up and fuck. But the dynamic is much deeper than that. Monneypenny is the only woman who has ever fully understood Bond in any of the movies, and the few novel portrayals in which they have romantic affections for each other. At the same time, she's too into supporting M as his/her secretary as well as too evasive of 007's womanizing tendencies to ever get anything started with him.

**kuronosan** · 2012-11-19 15:01

Pretty much.

**Sunrider** · 2012-11-19 15:26

Originally Posted by Sho

It's both simple and complex. People just see the simple fact that they will never hook up and fuck. But the dynamic is much deeper than that. Monneypenny is the only woman who has ever fully understood Bond in any of the movies, and the few novel portrayals in which they have romantic affections for each other. At the same time, she's too into supporting M as his/her secretary as well as too evasive of 007's womanizing tendencies to ever get anything started with him.

Basically it.

**Seraph** · 2012-11-19 16:32

You guys are trying way to hard to romanticize and complicate it. Moneypenny is just genre savvy enough to know that most of the women Bond sleeps with end up dead. Even when that doesn't happen, best case, he leaves them shortly after anyway. On the flip side, I always saw Bond as in too much of a hurry to get his M briefing on the crisis of the day to successfully nab her, but always had a few minutes to spare to tease her for the lulz.

**Salodin** · 2012-11-19 18:04

Originally Posted by Sho

It's both simple and complex. People just see the simple fact that they will never hook up and fuck. But the dynamic is much deeper than that. Monneypenny is the only woman who has ever fully understood Bond in any of the movies, and the few novel portrayals in which they have romantic affections for each other. At the same time, she's too into supporting M as his/her secretary as well as too evasive of 007's womanizing tendencies to ever get anything started with him.

So she never fucks him, he never fucks her. Gotcha.

**Abandon** · 2012-11-20 00:04

Sho wins the day

**Churchill** · 2012-11-20 18:40

Dalton's bonds are pretty good, but compared to a brosnan/moore bond they are a completely different movie.

**niwaar** · 2012-11-21 03:30

Originally Posted by Churchill

Dalton's bonds are pretty good, but compared to a brosnan/moore bond they are a completely different movie.

I dont even know that I would place brosnan and moore on the same playing field either. While Brosnan's Bond had a bit more "cheekiness" than either Dalton or Craig's, Moore's bond was so firmly imbedded into the 70s/80s level of camp that some of them are incredibly hard to watch with a straight face (Moonraker being the biggest example). Moore's movies did have a tendency to get better towards the middle of his run though. I am still a huge fan of For Your Eyes Only. I still prefer early Connery or Brosnan though. Craig is nice but he lacks a little something with the "comic" part of Bond that they only started to get in Skyfall.

On a different note, that Olivia gif is mesmerizing...

**vagus** · 2012-11-21 04:13

Great movie! Exotic locations, great dialogue, some crazy fight scenes and story line kept me interested the entire time. Craig isn't as smooth as Connery, but more believable then Brosnan. Moore was just cheezy in a good way. Dalton was great as a spy, but he wasn't very slick or entertaining. Craig brings a mixture of all the bonds.

Not even 30 seconds and action gets going. Love it.

**Tyrath** · 2012-11-21 10:17

Originally Posted by niwaar

On a different note, that Olivia gif is mesmerizing...

What show is that from? >.>

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2012-11-21 11:39

Originally Posted by Abandon

Sho wins the day

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-conten...-ALLEY-OOP.gif

**Lonewind** · 2012-11-21 12:34

Originally Posted by Tyrath

What show is that from? >.>

FRINGE? only saw like the first 3 seasons of it

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