Dragon Age 2

[Atreides]

pretty sure the Qun frowns upon herpes or "genital blight" or whatever they're calling it in the DA universe

[Katlan]

one thing I didn't get about the ending

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so if you side with the Templars, how are you supposed to beat the final bosses on harder difficulties if you're not a mage yourself? I know Bethany will come back shortly after you kill/dismiss Anders, but that's only if you didn't let her die in the Deep Roads, meaning there's a good chance you'll be down to 0 healers for the final boss depending on the choices you made.

I really think that the constant worrying about keeping friendship/rivalry high enough to prevent party members from leaving really takes a lot out of the enjoyment of the game. Personally the game pretty much shit in my mouth, I somehow lost Isabela after painstakingly trying to maximize her friendship while preventing the attack speed bug she gives you. I also didn't really appreciate spending 50 hours micromanaging my party's vagina sand levels only to have to make a permanent choice between Anders and Sebastian.

Overall I liked the combat and some of the story aspects (Aveline's VA is probably the best in the game, and I thought her friendship with Hawke was particularly well done) but it got to the point that new poor game design decisions or freshly discovered bugs were pissing me off on an almost daily basis. I know I will probably play again to get my characters and choices perfect the way I want them, but I will definitely not be touching the game again until they do some heavy patching. DA2 was good and certainly entertaining, but also pretty damn disappointing for a series that had such potential after the first game.

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I sided w/ the Templars on my first playthrough and got fucked because I couldn't keep Anders. Bethany isn't a good healer at that point since she has no advanced tree's and only gets "lolcure" once every 40 seconds. The last 2 boss fights are pretty easy, but the trash leading up to them can be difficult if your not micro managing all PT members w/ pots. I ended up killing Anders and going w/o a healer for the rest of the game. Think I used about 30 pots on the last dungeon and bosses.

and on the ending

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Yeah, If you side w/ the templars the mages basically get wiped out.. and if you side w/ the mages they basically wipe out the templars. Either decision is pretty drastic. And while it was leading up to something much bigger, DA3 / xpac to DA2 has to be pretty dark since the world is basically in an upheaval.

I found both sides to be too drastic. Anybody pick "I won't take a side" option at the end? I was tempted to, but I didn't want to have to replay stuff and wanted vicount lol

[Uzor]

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I sided w/ the Templars on my first playthrough and got fucked because I couldn't keep Anders. Bethany isn't a good healer at that point since she has no advanced tree's and only gets "lolcure" once every 40 seconds. The last 2 boss fights are pretty easy, but the trash leading up to them can be difficult if your not micro managing all PT members w/ pots. I ended up killing Anders and going w/o a healer for the rest of the game. Think I used about 30 pots on the last dungeon and bosses.

and on the ending

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Yeah, If you side w/ the templars the mages basically get wiped out.. and if you side w/ the mages they basically wipe out the templars. Either decision is pretty drastic. And while it was leading up to something much bigger, DA3 / xpac to DA2 has to be pretty dark since the world is basically in an upheaval.

I found both sides to be too drastic. Anybody pick "I won't take a side" option at the end? I was tempted to, but I didn't want to have to replay stuff and wanted vicount lol

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If you choose "I won't take a side" they just talk and then basically force you to pick a side.

[Souj]

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If you choose "I won't take a side" they just talk and then basically force you to pick a side.

It makes a difference somewhere, somehow. Not sure how much of a difference; but it at least makes 1 thing different;

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On a loading screen a little after that, It will give a summary of Act 3 thus far, and in it, it will say that you either sided with Orsiris, Templar bitch, or took no sides.

[Katlan]

I've only done the Templar side so far.. plan to do the mage side, but it seemed so one sided. I felt bad at every turn of the game when I sided w/ the Templars.. I kept saying like "only for the achievement" because it just felt wrong

[Eticket]

I've only done the Templar side so far.. plan to do the mage side, but it seemed so one sided. I felt bad at every turn of the game when I sided w/ the Templars.. I kept saying like "only for the achievement" because it just felt wrong

Yeah I felt the same way...

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Just to see what happened I killed Anders and killed Bethany. I was in a romance with Merrill though so she fought with me.

I'll play through again later with my 'legacy' save and take the mage side on everything.

[Restrat]

It makes a difference somewhere, somehow. Not sure how much of a difference; but it at least makes 1 thing different;

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On a loading screen a little after that, It will give a summary of Act 3 thus far, and in it, it will say that you either sided with Orsiris, Templar bitch, or took no sides.

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Thats the first time you can say not to pick sides, you can do it again right before the final part starts, and they say "sorry but you have to" and then give you the same option wheel again with "I won't take sides" eliminated

[noblemountain]

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How long are we going to keep spoilering? lol

My templar playthrough I didn't carry around any mages the entire game. I didn't do any of the mage companions quests and always sided as hardcore against the mages in every quest/mission as I could. I had to turn the difficulty down to normal to be able to beat a few fights, but overall it wasn't so bad. Carried Fenris/Aveline/Varric with me most of the time. Fenris is a damn good DD/tank hybrid with his specialization tree, I was sword/shield warrior and focused on dmg mitigation. It was interesting to me to see how my Hawke would react to a lot of the situations where it was obvious mages were being abused...sometimes when I make a character, I have no idea what decisions he'll make until I am faced with them. Working on my 3rd playthrough now, as a mage, carrying Anders/Merril/Aveline with me and this is actually harder for me than the no mage playthrough. We're all so squishy.

[Uzor]

yeah, Fenris were my favorite character in the game. He was a damn good DD/tank hybrid with AoE stun etc. He was also pretty much immune to magic damage with all of those lyrium ghost upgrades.

Only thing that sadden me wat that I found no good swords for him throughout the entire game. At the end I got those "Hope", "Gluttony" etc. swords, but their damage was lower than the damage of my Hawke's daggers... Which kind of sucks.

[Mizango]

Only nerds side with Templars. Fuck Meredith and her Hitler like agenda, bitch is satan. I loved beating Fenris' bitch ass when he tried to step to me and punked the shit out of punk ass Sebastian. I hope he does come back with a fleet, so I can wop on that ass too.

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First play-through I saved Anders and supported his nuking of the Chantry. He was surprised and joined me, Bethany and Merrill in slaughtering the Templars.

Second play-through I am playing as mage, and again cant find myself supporting the Templars in any capacity, even when I try I just cant do it. I hated them in the first one and they are even more ruthless in this one.

[Odesseiron]

Only nerds side with Templars. Fuck Meredith and her Hitler like agenda, bitch is satan. I loved beating Fenris' bitch ass when he tried to step to me and punked the shit out of punk ass Sebastian. I hope he does come back with a fleet, so I can wop on that ass too.

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First play-through I saved Anders and supported his nuking of the Chantry. He was surprised and joined me, Bethany and Merrill in slaughtering the Templars.

Second play-through I am playing as mage, and again cant find myself supporting the Templars in any capacity, even when I try I just cant do it. I hated them in the first one and they are even more ruthless in this one.

I know, it's really hard to support the Templars. I supported the mages the first go around. In my next playthrough I made myself side with the Templars. It was fucking difficult as all hell. Even after I made the conscious decision to do it, I still almost switched back to the mages at the very end. I felt like a real asshole at the end of the game. Which I guess is what they are trying to make you feel. As I said before, you must really have no heart if you genuinely support the Templars.

[Minardi]

Yeah.. I felt bad when I had to support the Templars on a playthrough, too.. But, I felt JUST as bad going to support the mages, and BAM, blood mages everywhere, then our little surprise with Orisino.

Both sides are really messed up atm, both had their reasons, but damn.

Fenris is also super awesome at killing things and being a general boss, and Merill is handy once you respec her and dump everything into con and magic with a ton of sustains.

[Mizango]

Yeah.. I felt bad when I had to support the Templars on a playthrough, too.. But, I felt JUST as bad going to support the mages, and BAM, blood mages everywhere, then our little surprise with Orisino.

Tell me about it lol

Merill is handy once you respec her and dump everything into con and magic with a ton of sustains.

^This. See, I played DAO as bloodmage, so Merril and buffing her up was right in my wheel house. It was nice not having to worry about healing with freshly slain corpses strew about.

[Judai]

Finally beat the game.

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I liked the fact that some of your companions left and some were willing to fight against you at the end. It would have bothered me if Sebastion fought with me after Anders blew up the Chantry. Fenris actually switched back to my side at the end which surprised me, I didn't expect him to come back when I asked. I didn't really like Fenris or Sebastion anyways, they were both idiots. Hopefully their is another DLC with Sebastion coming back because I would kick his retarded Starkhaven army's ass.

For some reason though, Isabela left me after the book mission. I romanced her, had 100% friend and told her to take the book and she never came back... Sucked because she was easily my favorite companion simply because she was funny.

The game was pretty fun but I have to say the story and companions were kinda weak. Merrill, Anders, Fenris and Sebastion were all kinda retarded and couldn't see past their own little choices and lives. Anders is an abomination and yet he constantly bitches about Merrill being a blood mage and getting help from Demons, talk about hypocrite. They really needed to add some companions that you could only keep if you start siding with the Templars because it makes no sense that any of the mages in your group would stick with you if you do. I liked Varric, Isabela, Bethany and Aveline, they all stayed pretty consistent in their beliefs and weren't so simple minded. Though I guess Varric only cared about money/beer and Isabela beer/sex..

Overall, the gameplay was fun but the story was weak compared to Origins.

[Katlan]

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If the Templar's weren't so one-sided it would have been much better and you could be more sympathetic w/them. Well, it wasn't all Templar's that were one sided, it was just Meredith. In the end the rest of the Templars even turn against her (before she was found out using Lyrium to enhance herself).

[Mizango]

Do you like the shiny?

[Katlan]

Do you like the shiny?

i dont follow?

I didn't spoiler tag it because its been long enough and every page is now just spoiler tagged, kinda annoying

[Mizango]

i dont follow?

I didn't spoiler tag it because its been long enough and every page is now just spoiler tagged, kinda annoying

It was reference to a Sandal quote lol. He says it randomly if you talk to him as you are walking through your estate.

[Atreides]

I CAN MAKE IT FOR YOU

[Mizango]

NOT ENCHANTMENT