M-Class License.

[Boyiee]

Get something comfortable... I taught myself how to ride on my brand spankin' new R6 a few years ago. I took the riding class about 2-3 months after I had already been riding on the road and what not. But you should do it right, take the class then go after the bike .

Get something that doesn't require you to be leaning forward every second that you're riding it. Something in the 500-660 range if you're getting a super sport is more than enough. Get something in the 800-1000 range if you're more into the cruiser type bikes.

Think the cbr 600 f4i's have a more sitting up seat which is nice for longer rides. My dad originally got one, forget the year, when he wanted a sport bike but since he's 50 didn't want to be leaning forward all day. He kind of wanted a mix between his old harley and a sport bike, now hes got a gsxr750 though. Mid life crisis ftw.

[Dantrag]

Lol @ your dad Boyiee

I know yamaha makes bikes that are more upright. FZ1 or FZ6.

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/737181_f520.jpg

[Boyiee]

He clearly enjoys riding the gsxr more than his old cruisers. He's had harleys and goldwings but it was just constant maintenance and cleaning the chrome.

[FNH]

Yeah guess it's dumb to be right.

Hardly anything in that post was "right".

[Boyiee]

Really?

Front tire doesn't like to come up on zx10s? Ever ridden one or is your 500 the biggest bike you've been on? If you ride at all it takes no effort to make that tire come off the ground, it's wonderful. One of the easiest bikes to wheelie for long distances that I've ever ridden, the insurance is outrageous though.

A 600 isn't a fine starter bike? Not sure I know anyone that's started on a sport bike smaller than that. Area you live in (city vs country vs suburbs), where you'll be riding the bike to (long distances, short trips to work) should factor into bike size. Putting his 250 up the parkway to NYC and back (my area for example) for work sure sounds like a blast. Although same can be said about a 600. Constant stops at lights and streets in the city or at a beach isn't retarded for a 1000?

Not sure how my 3rd paragraph could be "wrong" in any way. Hitting triple digits in my town is quite easy, and the majority of our accidents are cars not seeing the bike and pulling out in front of them/cutting them off, which is why highbeams are important around here. Don't think I've ever had a motorcycle accident where the guy laid it down for any other reason other than another vehicle in the road. If you are hit or hit someone you are fucked at 50ish on a bike, no different than you would be at 100+. I've had a few motorcyclists die at speeds less than 25. And it is cool as hell to see people leave their shoes, such an awesome amount of force needed to do that. It might be sad or morbid, but it really is a cool site. Had an engine of a car land 200ft from the car and on top of a guy recently, one of the coolest scenes I've ever been at. And it's a fuckton less work to pronounce someone dead and/or scrape them off highway than to deal with a traumatic cardiac arrest.

[Metta]

Boyiee sounds like a cool guy, lol.

[Boyiee]

I am. Welcome to the world that is EMS/Fire/Police. The worse the job the better, unless it's one of our own. Shits exciting when it hits the fan.

[FNH]

Really?

Front tire doesn't like to come up on zx10s? Ever ridden one or is your 500 the biggest bike you've been on? If you ride at all it takes no effort to make that tire come off the ground, it's wonderful. One of the easiest bikes to wheelie for long distances that I've ever ridden, the insurance is outrageous though.

A 600 isn't a fine starter bike? Not sure I know anyone that's started on a sport bike smaller than that. Area you live in (city vs country vs suburbs), where you'll be riding the bike to (long distances, short trips to work) should factor into bike size. Putting his 250 up the parkway to NYC and back (my area for example) for work sure sounds like a blast. Although same can be said about a 600. Constant stops at lights and streets in the city or at a beach isn't retarded for a 1000?

Not sure how my 3rd paragraph could be "wrong" in any way. Hitting triple digits in my town is quite easy, and the majority of our accidents are cars not seeing the bike and pulling out in front of them/cutting them off, which is why highbeams are important around here. Don't think I've ever had a motorcycle accident where the guy laid it down for any other reason other than another vehicle in the road. If you are hit or hit someone you are fucked at 50ish on a bike, no different than you would be at 100+. I've had a few motorcyclists die at speeds less than 25. And it is cool as hell to see people leave their shoes, such an awesome amount of force needed to do that. It might be sad or morbid, but it really is a cool site. Had an engine of a car land 200ft from the car and on top of a guy recently, one of the coolest scenes I've ever been at. And it's a fuckton less work to pronounce someone dead and/or scrape them off highway than to deal with a traumatic cardiac arrest.

Sure liters bikes are easy to wheelie, but they are just as easy to keep both on the ground if you are competent at shifting and have a good touch on the throttle. Quite the example of why a new rider shouldn't be on a 600+ as shifting to second can pop the front easily causing an accident.
The op should start small and learn from his own experience if he needs to move up to a four banger.
The last paragraph was what really grated me. If you want to be a stain on the pavement that is fine but trying to convince a new riderto do triple digits is beyond retarded.

Smaller standard sport bikes such as the 250 or 500s from kawasaki are made for beginners and are more forgiving to new riders who haven't gotten used to riding. They also build confidence, which is why I included my experience of riding on a smaller bike where I learned and once I became proficient at grinding pegs I knew I was ready to move up. Didn't care about the vanity of how a smaller motorcycle looked(most chick don't know the difference).
You may want to look into a different profession if you' rather someone be dead than have to save someone life.
To op: once you've chosen a ride practice a long time before taking riders.

[Chicomagiko]

I thought only Coroners can pronounce anyone dead "officially"? I know when I was an EMT-B we weren't allowed to do that :/

[Boyiee]

I thought only Coroners can pronounce anyone dead "officially"? I kow when I was an EMT-B we weren't allowed to do that :/

Paramedics can in NJ with Doctors consent. They are basically an extension of the Doctor or a tool, they have to call the Doctor paint a picture for him check a few things then they can get a tod from him. EMT can't call him for that here. So I suppose you can say they can't, since they can't alone, but they can with permission which others can not.

I will agree that the 250 or 500 is much more suited for beginners and easier but 600's really aren't too bad to learn on. If he has ever ridden a dirtbike or owned one then he can easily jump straight to the 600. Again though, I don't know anyone personally who has started out on smaller than a 600 nor had problems with shifting wrong to where the wheel comes up - stalling yes though lol. If the new rider took me seriously in my suggestion of doing triple digits right away then he probably deserve to be a stain on the pavement, but knowing Kiro as long as I have I know enough that he wouldn't.

[Chicomagiko]

Kiro! Don't ride while stoned! You're my only connection to that hot friend of yours. Also, we <3 you etc.

[Kiro]

Hot friend?

[Arrmani]

Should you really keep high beams on during the day and night? I wasn't sure how it would interfere with drivers, especially at night. My LEDs are hooked up to my high beams so I don't mind so much lol.

Anyway, the safety course I took they had 125s and 250s. I think I had a 250, but I didn't really know or care because it was riding a motorcycle and fun. When I got my 600, it was a lot more than I expected and I almost wiped in my neighbor's yard pulling out the first time. I also slid across some gravel shifting into second gear leaving work before. After that, I learned to be more careful, but I also got better riding as I got more comfortable with my bike.

I'm not sure how many LEDs I have on my bike because the previous owner hooked them up, but I kinda wanted to put more on and hopefully switch them from the high beams to a switch he put on the console area. How much strain do they put on the battery? The one I had was apparently 3 years old before giving out, but I don't want to overdo it and fry something.

[Furtwangler]

So I've finally decided to get my permit/license and a bike. Right now I'm in the process (within the next few days) of getting my permit, and looking into this bike right now, price is right and I can't afford much more right now, + it is my first bike: http://www.knhmotorsports.com/showca...=104121&Used=1

I'm looking for something under 2500 that is a 500, preferably a ninja since that seems the defacto smaller bike. I want to stay away from 250 as I plan on using it for freeway driving in the near future and I've heard they can be a bit of a pain at 65-75mph as far as comfort goes, compared to the 500.

I'm going to have my dad ride the bike back home after I get it (about an hour drive to the dealer) since I won't have much, at all experience on the road.

How much are safety courses normally? Idk if it's worth it price-wise as my dad can teach me pretty much everything I need to know, he's been riding for over 40 years now.

Any thoughts?

[*Shinzon*]

So I've finally decided to get my permit/license and a bike. Right now I'm in the process (within the next few days) of getting my permit, and looking into this bike right now, price is right and I can't afford much more right now, + it is my first bike: http://www.knhmotorsports.com/showca...=104121&Used=1

I'm looking for something under 2500 that is a 500, preferably a ninja since that seems the defacto smaller bike. I want to stay away from 250 as I plan on using it for freeway driving in the near future and I've heard they can be a bit of a pain at 65-75mph as far as comfort goes, compared to the 500.

I'm going to have my dad ride the bike back home after I get it (about an hour drive to the dealer) since I won't have much, at all experience on the road.

How much are safety courses normally? Idk if it's worth it price-wise as my dad can teach me pretty much everything I need to know, he's been riding for over 40 years now.

Any thoughts?

My best friend has been riding for years, his dad taught him to ride on and old dirt bike. He took a course and said it helped. You live in NY? Go to motorcyclesafetyschool.com, they have locations in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Ulster county and probably have the best prices and best instructors you're gonna find, at least in the bronx anyway. Great people who don't judge and work with you as best they can. They have 3 levels of courses, the basic, where they teach you everything you need to know to ride and at the end of the course test you and can provide you with a DMV waiver. And 2 higher level courses used mostly for refreshers. The course is $350, $250 in ulster.

Also, buying bikes is hard online, your best bet again, is to just take someone who has been riding a long time with you to inspect the bike first, then you make a decision. A lot shit can be hidden including tank damage that only someone who knows might be able to spot.

[Furtwangler]

My dad was going to go with me to the dealer where that bike is listed to look at it/buy it. I live up in Oneida county so I'm a ways off from the city. There are courses at a local community college by me that sound like what you're talking about so I'm going to look into that tomorrow.

[Arrmani]

Wow, that's really expensive for a class. Its free where I live. I don't think I would have paid for the class for what I learned, but I do think it helped getting used to riding and info and advice on what to do when stuff happens.

[Dmitry]

This thread made me go out and get a bike.

http://a.imageshack.us/img692/5000/129306784.jpg

The 750 is cut off the side of the picture there.

[*Shinzon*]

Wow, that's really expensive for a class. Its free where I live. I don't think I would have paid for the class for what I learned, but I do think it helped getting used to riding and info and advice on what to do when stuff happens.

It's not expensive at all. Look at it this way: The course provides with you with a safe environment to learn with all gear and the bikes provided. Then upon completion of the course you are given a road test by your instructors instead of having to make an appointment at the DMV, find or buy a bike, and pay for the DMV testing and then the paperwork costs. On top of that the MSS course provides students with certificates that give 10% insurance. It's really the only way to go.

[FNH]

So I've finally decided to get my permit/license and a bike. Right now I'm in the process (within the next few days) of getting my permit, and looking into this bike right now, price is right and I can't afford much more right now, + it is my first bike: http://www.knhmotorsports.com/showca...=104121&Used=1

I'm looking for something under 2500 that is a 500, preferably a ninja since that seems the defacto smaller bike. I want to stay away from 250 as I plan on using it for freeway driving in the near future and I've heard they can be a bit of a pain at 65-75mph as far as comfort goes, compared to the 500.

I'm going to have my dad ride the bike back home after I get it (about an hour drive to the dealer) since I won't have much, at all experience on the road.

How much are safety courses normally? Idk if it's worth it price-wise as my dad can teach me pretty much everything I need to know, he's been riding for over 40 years now.

Any thoughts?

http://www.ex-500.com/index.php
they have a classified section once you have registered. Lots of great information as far as the things that wear out most or what to look for.