Random Question Thread XII: Don't Believe Advanced's Lies

[Nightfyre]

MNK WHM RDM BRD (THF) should work. MNK tanks it with everyone else positioned around the corner so as not to get hit with agas.

[lovehatehero]

Been reading through the abyssea threads a lot and i seem to have an ok concept of things, but whats the best way to make a long/great xp party there? Are you supposed to farm certain lights in a certain order for best results or what not. Or random just so long as you cap out azure for the TEs? Just trying to perfect this a bit. Also what are considered the best mobs for this?

[Onorgul]

is there any area where unlocking latent of destroyers is better and faster than Cape Ter. Kuftal tunnel or Sky? i'm getting tired of these. FoV to do besides that would be nice though i seek a faster way.

Use Wagh Baghnakhs and skip Destroyers altogether while working on a Magian weapon (Ursine Claws or STR/DEX Taipan Fangs).

[Chen]

Been reading through the abyssea threads a lot and i seem to have an ok concept of things, but whats the best way to make a long/great xp party there? Are you supposed to farm certain lights in a certain order for best results or what not. Or random just so long as you cap out azure for the TEs? Just trying to perfect this a bit. Also what are considered the best mobs for this?

long exp pt. you need pearle/ruby/azure lights from mobs, that's it narrowed down already to mobs which can generate them.

some people say azure->pearle, i personally think pearle->azure.

A:/pearle for higher chest rate, then you do magic kills and get lots of Te's etc, plus some ruby boxes otw up to get some azures at the same time.
OR
B::azure till top tier chests, but remember you'll get very very few boxes, then pearle up until a high chest drop rate.

need to choose A or B, both certainly work for great exp pt, i'm a fan of A.

[Ellimist]

Why not just use:

<if buffactive="sublimation: activated">
    <equip when="aftercast" set="sub"/>
</if>
<else>
    <equip when="aftercast" set="idle"/>
</else>

Seems simple enough to me...

Using variables and autoexec to do this is rather stupid.

The reason this doesn't work is because when Sublimation completes, there is no casting involved. So if you are standing there, and Sublimation completes, you will still be in Sublimation gear, not refresh gear, because there is no aftercast to be had.

[Massimo]

long exp pt. you need pearle/ruby/azure lights from mobs, that's it narrowed down already to mobs which can generate them.

some people say azure->pearle, i personally think pearle->azure.

A:/pearle for higher chest rate, then you do magic kills and get lots of Te's etc, plus some ruby boxes otw up to get some azures at the same time.
OR
B::azure till top tier chests, but remember you'll get very very few boxes, then pearle up until a high chest drop rate.

need to choose A or B, both certainly work for great exp pt, i'm a fan of A.

B is definitely better if you're looking to get early TE's (and 1250 EXP chests), since those don't drop until Azure is capped. If you enjoy getting a bunch of shit tier blue/red/gold chests for the first 20~ mins, then go with pearl>azure.

[rog]

The reason this doesn't work is because when Sublimation completes, there is no casting involved. So if you are standing there, and Sublimation completes, you will still be in Sublimation gear, not refresh gear, because there is no aftercast to be had.

Why are you standing around doing nothing so long that the time between it finishing and your next cast that you're still in sub gear is significant?

[Mercilessturtle]

K, I feel dumb. I actually meant a good low-man strategy for Jailer of FAITH. Forgive me it was way late. Also, is there a good way to straight-tank it?

What Nightfyre said. Just make sure your mages are on the ball with their erase->haste after slowga and with the cure5s after stonega. Slow mages will get the monk killed.

[lovehatehero]

B is definitely better if you're looking to get early TE's (and 1250 EXP chests), since those don't drop until Azure is capped. If you enjoy getting a bunch of shit tier blue/red/gold chests for the first 20~ mins, then go with pearl>azure.

I did this the other day but when we started doign pearl i noticed we went from capped azure light to not after a bit do the lights slowy go down? Or did i just not farm azure enough?

[Maguile]

Working on the str/att magian scythe, what are the best areas to do the following:

Raptors in fire/light/wind/lightning weather
Anything in fire weather/firesday
Aquans/Flans/Beasts/Manticores/Vermin in fire weather/firesday

Any opinions or tips would be appreciated

[Massimo]

I did this the other day but when we started doign pearl i noticed we went from capped azure light to not after a bit do the lights slowy go down? Or did i just not farm azure enough?

Lights don't fade. Someone entered late, missed some Azure's and got a killshot.

[Mercilessturtle]

The raptors one was the only problem. If weather wants to co-operate you can do it in cape teriggan or kuftal. Otherwise mamook. Everything else just do in the obvious spots on firesday, fire weather isn't common enough anywhere to bother with.

[Darkmagi]

I did this the other day but when we started doign pearl i noticed we went from capped azure light to not after a bit do the lights slowy go down? Or did i just not farm azure enough?

Azure potency caps fast but you need to continue azure kills after capping pearl to increase frequency. Can switch to ruby/amber once you get a suitable time buffer from azure. Azure/ruby frequency don't cap til 1000 kills apparently. Azure, then pearl, then azure, then ruby.

[Massimo]

Azure potency caps fast but you need to continue azure kills after capping pearl to increase frequency. Can switch to ruby/amber once you get a suitable time buffer from azure. Azure/ruby frequency don't cap til 1000 kills apparently. Azure, then pearl, then azure, then ruby.

There's so much wrong and assumed info here.

First of all, there's no proof at all that you need more kills to up the frequency once it's at its top tier. We always cap Azure up to 6 guesses then switch to Pearl > Ruby kills. Even after doing Ruby kills for 5 hours, we get what seems to be an equal amount of blue and red chests.

You also must have pulled the 1000 kills shit out of your ass, because what the hell.


Don't state this shit like it's fact. For fucks sake.

[Darkmagi]

There's so much wrong and assumed info here.

First of all, there's no proof at all that you need more kills to up the frequency once it's at its top tier. We always cap Azure up to 6 guesses then switch to Pearl > Ruby kills. Even after doing Ruby kills for 5 hours, we get what seems to be an equal amount of blue and red chests.

You also must have pulled the 1000 kills shit out of your ass, because what the hell.


Don't state this shit like it's fact. For fucks sake.

The game records up to 1000 azure, amber, and ruby lights as shown per debug hacking. I can say from experience that if you cap azure and just spam ruby that you will most definitely get more ruby chests than azure chests. My personal theory is that they have frequency tiers (unknown obviously). I would love to be proven wrong though, fuck azure kills.

[fredjanx]

Working on the str/att magian scythe, what are the best areas to do the following:

Raptors in fire/light/wind/lightning weather
Cape Teriggan. The Selbina weather npc will be your friend.

Anything in fire weather/firesday

Aquans
Kuftal Tunnel/The Boyahda Tree

Flans
Mount Zhayolm (the old BLM camp)

Beasts
Uleguerand Range

Manticores
Cape Teriggan in the section out of the map

Vermin
Ladybugs in Jugner_S, near Batallia_S zone.

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[Maguile]

Beautiful, thanks.

[cdgreg]

Does the camouflage effect of -25 enmity effect WS or barrage?

[Darkmagi]

The game records up to 1000 azure, amber, and ruby lights as shown per debug hacking. I can say from experience that if you cap azure and just spam ruby that you will most definitely get more ruby chests than azure chests. My personal theory is that they have frequency tiers (unknown obviously). I would love to be proven wrong though, fuck azure kills.

Cannot find the post that showed this for the life of me but regardless of that, doing azure over ruby will indirectly decrease ruby chest drops if you don't believe in increasing chest rates past the potency cap.

[Deader2818]

I need to do Koki on birds for SAM GKT. Where is the best place for EP birds/bats? (Dont want to deal with feather tickle)