Random Question Thread XII: Don't Believe Advanced's Lies

[Ros]

What are the best pants for Raging Rush?

[rog]

What are the best pants for Raging Rush?

Hachi? Maybe, not sure.

[Carraway]

What are the best pants for Raging Rush?

Byakko's Haidate if it puts you within the ~40-50 dDEX range (117 for Greater Colibri, dunno what for everything else, but generally speaking, the more evasive a mob is, the more DEX you'll need), Hachiryu Haidate otherwise.

[Elrik]

Anyone knows if Signet/Sigil/Sanction work in abyssea?

I tried Sigil and it didn't work. I've heard weird theories about CP gain with signet in the area, but that didn't seem to work either.
The only thing I haven't tried is Sanction. I doubt it works but then again, abyssea didn't seem to work without ToAU at start, so maybe?

It just feels weird that none works in this area. Has anyone tried area related items like Resentment cape?

[drwaffles]

It's like Lumoria, Signet/Sanction/Sigil don't work at all and you don't accumulate CP/IS. Not that hard to get your head around.

[Carraway]

No, none of the area bonuses work in Abyssea. It's an alternate world.

[Diddy Kong]

What's an easy assault to get points for a Sergeant Major?

[rog]

lamia13

[Zirk]

It's like Lumoria, Signet/Sanction/Sigil don't work at all and you don't accumulate CP/IS. Not that hard to get your head around.

I'm pretty sure having signet in sea still lets you rest without losing TP, and maybe the increased hHP clear mind style.

[Diddy Kong]

Where is a good place to do birds with fire weather?

[Loire]

I am pretty sure that the Varangian helm beats out the champion's galea with the 4 str +2% ws dmg increase but I kinda want to know by how much. Mostly because of the drop of 35 acc for double attack/triple attacks from the ws (Difference of Varangian -20 acc to the +15wsacc from galea). I doubt that would bring it any closer for comparison but thats speculation.

Url is current setup if it has relevancy to determining anything
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=46438


(asked in whats better but got skimmed over)

[rog]

The acc doesn't matter for ygk.

Assuming hume str of 73 (err, stat calc is probably wrong, but whatever, it doesn't matter much), and a mob with lets say 72 vit. You'd have 138 str with galea, 146 str with varangian, so capped fstr either way. So with hagun that'd be D91 before str mod. Not sure how wsc scales after 75, so i'll just use .81. 75%*.81=60.75%

138*.6075=83.835
146*.6075=88.695

So D174 vs D179, which is 2.87% more. 2.87% more base damage vs 2% more total damage is probably going to be pretty close either way. If your cratio isn't capped, then the 24 atk is going to be a fairly decent increase too. Too lazy to do any more maths on it, but i'd guess that varangian is probably going to win by somewhere around 1-2%.

[DantesTheBannedPLD]

I got a random/dumb question to ask

If you have a Shikkoku Togi, how do you augment it? Or add an evolith w/e

[Innuendo]

I haven't been arsed to look into the magian options for thf yet, but is there any options worthwile to do to replace my old trusted blau/sirocco combo?

I'd like to ask this question too, but I'm starting with an x's knife instead.

[Kayatani]

It's like Lumoria, Signet/Sanction/Sigil don't work at all and you don't accumulate CP/IS. Not that hard to get your head around.

So if it's like Sea, does stuff with "Areas outside of nation control" conquest latents like Master Caster's Bracelets still work there?

Forgive me if it's common knowledge already, not had chance to play around in abyssea yet

[Motenten]

re: Varangian vs MKE:

Current stat calculator should be correct for everything but HP, which may be a few points off.

And the secondary hits do matter.

Assuming you could have just reached capped accuracy in WS gear with pizza (using estimates on another set of calculations I was doing recently), -35 acc will put you at a ~76% hit rate. You have 7% DA and 1% TA in gear. That's 17% DA and 1% TA if /war, or 7% DA and 1% TA with /drg or other.

Average number of secondary hits would then be:

/war: .17 + .0083*2 = 0.1866
/drg: .07 + .0093*2 = 0.0886

Given Hagun's fTP of 1.9975 (including Gorget) and capped accuracy, average total damage would be 2.074895 for /war and 1.981795 for /drg. Reducing accuracy on the secondary hits would change that to 2.039441 for /war and 1.964961 for drg. That's a loss of 1.71% for /war and 0.85% for /drg


Given rog's estimate of the +str being 2.87% to damage, that makes the net effect before comparing with the 2% WS damage of the MKE head as being +1.1% for /war and +2.0% for /drg. Since you're giving up 2% in straight WS damage, it's at best a wash, and at worst a ~1% loss.


Also, for non-Haguns (if you switch to one of the Magians), the secondary hits will have slightly greater weight, so should be a loss in all cases where accuracy matters.

[Diddy Kong]

For trial 85, do cockatrice in terrigan count?

Edit: Nevermind, they do.

[Kalisa]

I'm pretty sure having signet in sea still lets you rest without losing TP, and maybe the increased hHP clear mind style.

So if it's like Sea, does stuff with "Areas outside of nation control" conquest latents like Master Caster's Bracelets still work there?

Forgive me if it's common knowledge already, not had chance to play around in abyssea yet

It's not like sea. Signet does work in sea for the purpose of Signet bonuses and allowing region based items to trigger. I used to use (and get the benefits from) my Republican Gold Medal in Limbus all the time.

Abyssea gets no bonus from Signet/Sigil/Sanction. At all. Ever. Anywhere. It's as if you don't have the status effect at all. Region-based items will not trigger under any circumstance, and you will never get CP/IS/AN in Abyssea. It's completely unique and special in this regard.

For trial 85, do cockatrice in terrigan count?

Yes.

[rog]

And the secondary hits do matter.

Assuming you could have just reached capped accuracy in WS gear with pizza (using estimates on another set of calculations I was doing recently), -35 acc will put you at a ~76% hit rate. You have 7% DA and 1% TA in gear. That's 17% DA and 1% TA if /war, or 7% DA and 1% TA with /drg or other.

Average number of secondary hits would then be:

/war: .17 + .0083*2 = 0.1866
/drg: .07 + .0093*2 = 0.0886

Given Hagun's fTP of 1.9975 (including Gorget) and capped accuracy, average total damage would be 2.074895 for /war and 1.981795 for /drg. Reducing accuracy on the secondary hits would change that to 2.039441 for /war and 1.964961 for drg. That's a loss of 1.71% for /war and 0.85% for /drg


Given rog's estimate of the +str being 2.87% to damage, that makes the net effect before comparing with the 2% WS damage of the MKE head as being +1.1% for /war and +2.0% for /drg. Since you're giving up 2% in straight WS damage, it's at best a wash, and at worst a ~1% loss.


Also, for non-Haguns (if you switch to one of the Magians), the secondary hits will have slightly greater weight, so should be a loss in all cases where accuracy matters.

True, i didn't consider DAs, so yeah, i guess galea would come out slightly ahead, though after factoring in the 24 atk too, it's going to be a very slight difference, and varangian would still win if acc was capped.

[Kayatani]

It's not like sea. Signet does work in sea for the purpose of Signet bonuses and allowing region based items to trigger. I used to use (and get the benefits from) my Republican Gold Medal in Limbus all the time.

Abyssea gets no bonus from Signet/Sigil/Sanction. At all. Ever. Anywhere. It's as if you don't have the status effect at all. Region-based items will not trigger under any circumstance, and you will never get CP/IS/AN in Abyssea. It's completely unique and special in this regard.

Oh well, no big loss. Thanks for clearing that up.