Cure VI Formula

[FailureMidgard]

MND Etudes could also work

Just remember the high level etude decays, so may be a bit annoying to use...

Goblin Mushpot is another MND+10, and /DRK for Absorb-MND would be another option I guess.

I'm not sure how many spells /blu has that increase mnd off the top of my head, but it's easier to control values by adding/removing 1 spell at a time for +1-2 mnd.

[midguardian]

You can get a +10 MND buff in Abyssea (+20 with correct key item) from the Cruor Prospector NPC. Also the Braver's Drink temp item raises all stats by +15. I think you can get this in Abyssea, but I'm not sure. Wiki doesn't have it listed as buyable from the Cruor Prospector NPC, but I seem to remember getting one from a temp item chest. I could be remembering a Salvage chest though.

In the new MMM voucher 09 mazes you can get a MND boost if you have Maze Rune 034 on your maze. I think I saw a report that the bonus is +10, but that's from memory. You can buy many temp items for this maze with C.C. points, but it doesn't look like Braver's Drink is one of them.

[NervosaEternal]

cure 6 can heal over 1k btw. these equations make no sense

[Jem]

All these tests are done without any Cure Pot gear. Even C5 comfortably breaks 1k with cure pot gear, Kingawesome's C5 does 1048 I think.

I think Kingawesome sent the results via PM btw.

[Nyaanyaa_Midgardsormr]

I've also run a few additional tests tonight with a mushpot on and a brd mule. Unfortunately, my sch friend was logged in as himself and busy with ls. The nerve! I've tested all brd ones multiple times to make sure numbers are correct, and that I wasn't off by 1-2 due to decay. All gear used is identical to Test #2.

Test #6
Mind: 169(74+95) (Mushpot)
Vit:65(-13)-->52
Healing Skill: 295
Hp cured: 938

Test #7
Mind: 178(74+104) (Mushpot + spirited etude)
Vit:65(-13)-->52
Healing Skill: 295
Hp cured: 951

Test #8
Mind: 183(74+109) (Mushpot + logical etude)
Vit:65(-13)-->52
Healing Skill: 295
Hp cured: 959

Test #9(74+118) (Mushpot + both etudes)
Mind: 192
Vit:65(-13)-->52
Healing Skill: 295
Hp cured: 969

Test #10(74+143) (Mushpot +brd 2hr songs)
Mind: 217
Vit:65(-13)-->52
Healing Skill: 295
Hp cured: 999

Somewhat tired so I'll let the math speak for itself.

Test #6
PW = 736
H = 938

938 = floor(736 / 2 + 570)
938 = floor(368 + 570)
938 = floor(938)
938 = 938

Test #7
PW = 763
H = 951

951 = floor(763 / 2 + 570)
951 = floor(381.5 + 570)
951 = floor(951.5)
951 = 951

Test #8
PW = 778
H = 959

959 = floor(778 / 2 + 570)
959 = floor(389 + 570)
959 = floor(959)
959 = 959

Test #9
PW = 805
H = 969

969 = floor(805 / 2 + 570)
969 = floor(402.5 + 570)
969 = floor(972.5)
969 =/= 972 !!!

Test #10
PW = 880
H = 999

999 = floor(880 / 2 + 570)
999 = floor(440 + 570)
999 = floor(1,010)
999 =/= 1,010 !!!

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So we can see somewhere between 959HP and 969HP (or 778PW and 805PW) the formula changes. Hence there must be a Soft Cap inbetween there, I think it's safe to assume this Soft Cap is sc1. Now we can define:

959HP <= sc1 <= 969HP, and
778PW <= PW(sc1) <= 805PW

From other Cure Tiers we know that sc1 must be a multiple of 5. So sc1 can only be either 960HP or 965HP.

We also know that PW(z) is always a multiple of 10. Going from there, PW(sc1) can only be either 780PW, 790PW or 800PW. However, quick math shows us that 800PW would be 970HP, and thus too high.

H = floor(800 / 2 + 570)
H = floor(400 + 570)
H = floor(970)
H = 970

Hence PW(sc1) can only be either 780PW or 790PW.

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Looking at Test #9 and Test #10 we can see that increasing PW by 83 increases H by 30HP under Soft Cap 2. Because floor(83 / (83 / 30)) = 30 and floor(83 / (83 / 31)) = 31 we can define x as:

83/31 < x <= 83/30 or

2.667 < x <= 2.766


Further testing is necessary to determine the exact Soft Cap 1, as well as x and y values under Soft Cap 2.

[Nyaanyaa_Midgardsormr]

Looking at Test #9 and Test #10 we can see that increasing PW by 83 increases H by 30HP under Soft Cap 2. Because floor(83 / (83 / 30)) = 30 and floor(83 / (83 / 31)) = 31 we can define x as:

83/31 < x <= 83/30 or

2.667 < x <= 2.766

Yeah.. somewhat obvious mistake. Not sure how I came up with 83PW, suppose I was too tired. Obviously going from 805PW to 880PW is an 75PW increase. So corrected it must be:

Looking at Test #9 and Test #10, we can see that increasing PW by 75, increases H by 30HP under Soft Cap 2. Because floor(75 / (75 / 30)) = 30 and floor(75 / (75 / 31)) > 30, we can define X as:

75/31 < X <= 75/30 or

2.419 < X <= 2.5



Furthermore, I made a chart, trying to determine the exact cap. I'll explain below.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/a...and/theory.png

On the left side we have the PW values and the corresponding H values, using the formula H = PW / 2 + 570.

On the right side we have the X values defined, for if the corresponding PW & H values were the Soft Cap. Using PW and H values from Test #9 (T9) and Test #10 (T10), we can by regarding the increase easily define X. Just like I did earlier in this post, by comparing Test 9 and 10. Read the definitions as:

min(T9) < X <= max(T9); and
min(T10) < X <= max(T10).

Then by comparing those assumed definitions to the already known and correct definition 2.419 < X <= 2.5 we can see which values would fit this defintion, i.e. which values can be the Soft Cap.

Definitions that would fit are marked green, while definitions that don't fit are marked red. Furthermore, where both the definition for X regarding the increase to T9 and for X regarding the increase to T10 would fit, the PW and H values are bold.

In other words, one of these bold values could be the Soft Cap. The others cannot.

[Nyaanyaa_Midgardsormr]

Don't really have the time lately to look into this, just posting in hope anyone else can make something out of these numbers.

I've been quite busy irl lately so I've not had the chance to run a few tests.

Anyway, I've run tests for PWs 766, 768, 770, 771, 772, 775, 777, 778, 781 and 783.

Everything checks out up until 783. However it's only off by one hp so I ran the test a good 10 times to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Stats for 783:
Mind: 184
Vit: 63
Healing Skill: 280
Cured: 960

If you need anymore information on what was used per test I'll be out until Monday.