FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread IV: I got beta inv but my 5 year old PC can't run it

[Cureslime]

Yeah all the synthesis crafts work the same so no extra work there other than the animations and recipes. No way to completely balance everything at launch so no reason to try.

The retainer system as it currently is can't work. At worst what they need to do is have a "hub" NPC that lets you search all bazaars and teleports you directly to the ward in which a retainer with the item you desires is located.

[Biggie]

Obviously someone thinks this waste of time and resources is immersive and is better than AH. So is this a case of a stupid DEV or do we just want AH cause it has the online?

Lol. 2 points for that. "Do you even know what that fucking means?"

[Decillion]

So 2 months to go, 18 classes confirmed at launch, 5 "economic" classes NYI : fishing, cook, goldsmith, armorer, alchemist. No real economic transaction system to speak of yet. Even if you aren't worried about the rest of the game, this is a very bad thing.

Their internal testing must be chugging along swimmingly or something because from the outside things look like poop.

PS: I so wanted to try out fish grinding for xp too!

Agreed. This game still has a lot of things that need fixing or tweaking before launch. Individually, most of the problems with the game don't seem like a big deal. But, add them all up and you see that SE still has a lot of work to do if they want to have a successful launch, and not lose a bunch of subscribers after a couple weeks.

You know, I'd have a lot more faith in SE if they actually bothered communicating with their beta testers. I keep hearing the same complaints over and over again from many different people. How hard would it be for SE to come out and say something like: "Don't worry guys, customizable controls are coming." Or, "The game won't be capped at 30 FPS at release." Or, "Based on your feedback we've decided to change ____"

I hope the next beta test comes with an update. It would be nice to see if SE is actually listening to our feedback. I don't know if I'm alone on this, but right now it seems SE is just designing the game the way they want, and just using the beta testers to test the server stability. I know there have been changes to the UI and the battle system, but how much of that was due to player feedback and how much was already planned to change?

[Meresgi]

You know, I'd have a lot more faith in SE if they actually bothered communicating with their beta testers. I keep hearing the same complaints over and over again from many different people. How hard would it be for SE to come out and say something like: "Don't worry guys, customizable controls are coming." Or, "The game won't be capped at 30 FPS at release." Or, "Based on your feedback we've decided to change ____"

You've never read the WoW forums have you? There was a post like that awhile back, asking why Blizzard never talked on the forums all too much. I have to agree with their response on it as well. The reason they don't answer or communicate that much is because if they were to stop to post in thread A which was "Why is it capped at 30fps?" then thread B would want answers as well and get really pissy if they didnt get them, then C would ask "why the fuck do A and B get a dev post but not us?" and suddenly you have a giant rush of water bursting through the damn.

Are they reading the threads? I would honestly hope so, especially when your game hinges on the players and fans and their opinions, while sometimes retarded, are sometimes spot on too.

[BlackheartX]

Lol. 2 points for that. "Do you even know what that fucking means?"

No please explain... (Final Fantasy it has the online)

[Agito]

Nobody will even play this game if you have to manually search through thousands of bazaars because that's absolute bullshit. If there's an auction house added though then it's all good but i don't want to see a clusterfuck of retainers in every inch of every town.

[omegaB]

Does anyone have any actual evidence of crafting being a "job". You can say it is but is it true.

it ranks up through skill and also gives base exp levels, you get more skills as you progress in levels, some of which can used against enemies.

Its not gonna be a battle class, though it may have some buffs debuffs or traits that might be useful in party situations.

i think it qualifies as a discipline, is it a discipline you want to play? dunno that's a dif question

[BlackheartX]

You've never read the WoW forums have you? There was a post like that awhile back, asking why Blizzard never talked on the forums all too much. I have to agree with their response on it as well. The reason they don't answer or communicate that much is because if they were to stop to post in thread A which was "Why is it capped at 30fps?" then thread B would want answers as well and get really pissy if they didnt get them, then C would ask "why the fuck do A and B get a dev post but not us?" and suddenly you have a giant rush of water bursting through the damn.

Are they reading the threads? I would honestly hope so, especially when your game hinges on the players and fans and their opinions, while sometimes retarded, are sometimes spot on too.

Blizzard forums is like dipping a developer in a a tank of piranhas, however it happens far more often and isn't a new concept to them.

@OmegaB

I like throwing rocks and I like money so I think i will.

@ The Retainer System
Were you developed on April first?

@Biggie
I was

[Biggie]

No please explain...

Lol my bad, I thought you were referring to the youtube video.....

[Meresgi]

Nobody will even play this game if you have to manually search through thousands of bazaars because that's absolute bullshit. If there's an auction house added though then it's all good but i don't want to see a clusterfuck of retainers in every inch of every town.

I'm confused. Do we know how many servers will be at launch? Will everyone that's playing the game all chose the exact same location to set up shop? Like is there a restricted area to do this or are you free to do it anywhere you want? If you're free, then that's 3 cities right now, granted when they put in a major hub everyone will set up shop there so yeah that will be a problem. I don't think you'll see "thousands" of shops, but hundreds probably.

A search system would be nice. I don't know if you display a little message bubble over your head when selling like most MMO's do right now, but they could make it so you could select a keyword, and anyone w/o the keyword in their bubble would fade off screen at that point. *Shrug*

Blizzard forums is like dipping a developer in a a tank of piranhas, however it happens far more often and isn't a new concept to them.

Blizzard blues get eaten alive on every announcement they make, good or bad. That's how forums are, they are a giant tank of piranhas like you said...so, if I was a dev I would just hang a sign in the office that said "Don't feed the trolls". And leave posts to announcements about what's going on and not comment on people's ideas.

[BlackheartX]

That would be as heeded as saying to the beta forums don't be stupid.

[Loaar]

Quick question, which classes available at release use leather armour?

Its not that cut and dry. Gear isn't so much about "leather", "chain", "cloth" as it is about the mix of materials.

Technically Glad, Archer and PUG wear the "lighter" armour, but even some of their stuff has metal components like metal plating on gloves or chain shoulders on a body piece.

Also, no one craft has the monopoly on certain types of items. For example, carpenter makes wooden weapons, but that doesn't mean if you want a wooden weapon made then a carpenter will make it for you.

For example: On the list SE released of recipes, a maple bow is a carpenters item.

Maple Longbow - 1 maple branch, 2 pieces of maple lumber, 1 linen bowstring, 1 circle of sheepskin leather, 1 block of animal glue

However, if you wanted a Wrapped Maple Longbow, you need a tanner.

Wrapped Maple Longbow - 1 maple longbow, 1 circle of soot-black buffalo leather, 1 soot-black buffalo leather strap,1 sheet of silver plate, 1 handful of silver rivets, 1 pinch of brimstone

It seems the crafts are designed so that no one crafter type makes certain gear exclusively. Also, crafters are going to be very interdependent on each other:

If you want a bronze pickaxe, you need a Blacksmith to make the axe head:

Bronze Pickaxe Head - 1 bronze ingot, 2 bronze nuggets

Then you need a carpenter to make the actual pickaxe:

Bronze Pickaxe - 1 bronze pickaxe head, 1 maple pickaxe shaft, 1 handful of bronze nails, 1 bolt of undyed hempen cloth

But if you want a better one, you need a weaver:

Plumed Bronze Pickaxe - 1 bronze pickaxe, 1 iron buckle, 1 bolt of undyed cotton yarn, 1 cock feather

[madhater]

I think discussing the wonderful implications of the "Cock Feather" will cheer people up.

[Chakra]

I can level up.

[Johndile]

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Thanks for all the help ^^ That's actually something I like, needed to use multiple crafts.

[Kurokikaze]

Just got done with the daily posting on the Feedback forums. Hit like every section. ><

Edit: Really hoping for these server issues to be resolved for the next test and to see a major patch to the game by month's end.

[Kerk]

If this has been asked before disregard it but have beta invites been sent out for ps3 users or no?

[Kirb]

Developers dislike posting directly on forums as the majority of the users tend to be mindbogglingly stupid, and so are their ideas.
Bug reports and form based feedback are infinitely more useful.

If this has been asked before disregard it but have beta invites been sent out for ps3 users or no?

Don't believe so, no.

[Loaar]

If this has been asked before disregard it but have beta invites been sent out for ps3 users or no?

Some people that applied for the PS3 beta got invited to the PC beta, but no invites for a PS3 beta have been issued as yet.

[BlackheartX]

If this has been asked before disregard it but have beta invites been sent out for ps3 users or no?

no