FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread IV: I got beta inv but my 5 year old PC can't run it

[Hyan]

I bought the CE edition.

Token problem solved :D

[Kawfee]

More posts leaking tidbits of interesting gameplay that actually exists in 14, less posts about the merits of NMs and reasons for regional software restrictions.

[brand]

Not really talking about that though, I can go buy a version of Windows 7 and it will give me the choice to install it as an American version if i want.

Just like when i install the FF14 beta i can choose Europe, NA or JP, what I was getting at is more to do with that software installation can be installed per the region you wish to use all on the same disc, which would mean there is no need for a difference between regions as far as software goes.

Of course SE account region on the otherhand is something else.

First off, I get what you are saying. Windows, however, might be a bad example as it is not a perpetually paid service. Keep in mind that IANAL, but traditionally, service terms must be visible or agreed to to use the software you buy. Windows, for example, clearly states on the box that by simply opening the box, you agree to it's license rules. It gets hairier with paid services. This isn't totally tangential to your argument.

What I am trying to get at is those terms of service have to be spelled out very clearly on a product box or bad things can happen (see anything to do with DLC and trade-in stores), and those rules differ based on well... region. I know this isn't a popular comparison, but have you ever looked at the differences in TOSes between regions for that game? I actually read something about it recently, though it will take some time for me to find again.

Other than that, I guess I agree, but I also don't see the need for it if they plan to continue allowing the client language to be chosen.

[Jinko]

Other than that, I guess I agree, but I also don't see the need for it if they plan to continue allowing the client language to be chosen.

Which is interesting as many people are getting excited over IME support for the beta/alpha but I'm almost certain Tanaka said at the Japan Expo that the NA/EU version wouldn't support it.

[Cloud]

They actually may already have these, one time i talked to the yellowjacket npc by the crystal and he offered me an oppurtunity to do some sort of leve like quest but it required level 30-40 to participate, since the cap is 30, id assume this is some type of high end fight. no idea how it works but it presents an interesting idea.


Btw guild leves dont give any more exp than killing random stuff, however its kindof fun and entertaining. In truth if you want fast exp guild leves prolly isnt the way to go, So people should stop thinking its impossible to level wo guild leves, it is a pretty good soucre of money though.

They can have world NMs, as long as they have the same items attainable by other means that may appeal to both camps, But i dunno, many of the world NM situations and what they created were bad.

I think its good for dunegons and places to have powerful enemies, sort of bosses, I think its a bad idea for it to take too long, and the whole millions off of NMs ehhhhhh. I prefer the you can get something through effort if you want in a game, depending on luck too much just makes it unfun, waiting around for 2 hours, and not getting a pull isnt fun for most people either, sure theres that slight thrill on a won pull, but after the first 3 times its gone, and all the unfun remians.

What's the point of World NM's if they drop something that you can get by other means? I LOVE camping NMs, and that is a minority, but that is what made FFXI for me and my LS.

Yes we got pissed off when it spawned already claimed but that's because of connection. One of the reasons I wish there are NA based servers. No matter how many crap spawns / tries it took. When we got it, it was a HUGE joy because of the group effort / organization it took to get there and then kill it.

It's really fun to kill it around other LS's because you KNOW they're kicking themselves for not getting it. It breeds a lot of competition and I love that about XI.

[Jinko]

It's really fun to kill it around other LS's because you KNOW they're kicking themselves for not getting it. It breeds a lot of competition and I love that about XI.

It breeds a lot of resentment and discontent aswell.

[mr.bryce]

Which is interesting as many people are getting excited over IME support for the beta/alpha but I'm almost certain Tanaka said at the Japan Expo that the NA/EU version wouldn't support it.

i was disappointed not being able to use kanas for character name though

[Ridingbean]

At current rates...

if you pay in £: 8.99£ = 10.7€ = $13.8
if you pay in $: $12.99 = 10.3€ = 8.40£
if you pay in euro: 12.99€ = $16.8 = 10.9£

I'm pretty upset about these rates.
Why should I pay so much more just because I live in Europe?
Monthly fee in € is almost 30% higher than it is for NA players?

I'd like to know why.

I've also imported the US version of XI and the expansions too.
Later I bought the EU version because it had everything on one DVD. For payment I still had to use the NA playonline service but I could install and play using the EU version.
However when it came to registering the wings expansion it didn't work and I had to import the NA version again just for the code.

I just hope they keep the selection of the language you'd like to install because I don't want to end up playing the game in german ><;

[Rocl]

It breeds a lot of resentment and discontent aswell.

Only in failures. Even when the no skill bots claim at least I get dinner and a show!

[Destinye]

I'm pretty upset about these rates.
Why should I pay so much more just because I live in Europe?
Monthly fee in € is almost 30% higher than it is for NA players?

I'd like to know why.

Economy, USD is basically worthless now.

[BlackheartX]

I think they just need to make them longer. You can't really exp when you gotta kill 4 mobs that takes 5min. I wouldn't mind some grinding during the leve tbh. Maybe it's just a low level thing though.

If one leve take 30mins to an hour to complete and gives out good EXP the 8 leve cap is quite reasonable I think. But they should be scaled to the time it takes to do the leve: at rank 1 2 day limit is just too much compared to the time it takes to blaze through all 8.

Think I'm gonna go tell them this...

That's a good idea it would make them feel more involved even if it was collect 20 crab butts or something.

[BlackheartX]

How would you guys feel if they handled mobs the old fashioned way? No visible NPCs to run into but a vast empty field, then suddenly screen wipe + random mob. Just like in all the other older FFs.... guys?

<_<

That would be an awesome quest gimmick complete with a 2-D battle view.

[Sephiroth]

HNM fights were fun, but camping them was far from it. So why not have a system where instead of Fafnir popping in Dragon's Aery every 21-24 hours it could pop in any high level zone at any random time of the day regardless of when it was killed, but only once per day. No one could camp it then. You'd just find out it has popped when someone encounters it and the first linkshell to get a group together would go kill it.

NMs that are designed to be soloed should only drop ra/ex stuff.

[Sylvaria]

HNM fights were fun, but camping them was far from it. So why not have a system where instead of Fafnir popping in Dragon's Aery every 21-24 hours it could pop in any high level zone at any random time of the day regardless of when it was killed, but only once per day. No one could camp it then. You'd just find out it has popped when someone encounters it and the first linkshell to get a group together would go kill it.

NMs that are designed to be soloed should only drop ra/ex stuff.

that would be like nightmare SW camping

[Destinye]

Not to mention you're leveling up and fafhogg decides to drop by and say sup on your party.

[Hyan]

G4TV's MMO report features FFXIV this week!

I think this is bigger news than the release date announcement.

Of course they call it the "fanboy service" and they only did it so people would stop sending them e-mails about not reporting anything XIV related :D.

[BlackheartX]

Not to mention you're leveling up and fafhogg decides to drop by and say sup on your party.

I've had that happen while I was on a Chocobo got gibbed by the strider boot bird forgot his name.

P.S.

Rare NM should have a chance to pop in leves. Would be a nice way to not make all loot rare/ex and unsellable. (drop rate could be 100% or 1% up to SE)

[Jinko]

It doesn't affect me (apart from that I'll have a moping man about the house waiting for his copy to come in the post) but it just annoys me that SE STILL haven't flipping learnt this lesson or acknowledged that people paid out for their security tokens and are not going to be happy at being told to buy another one or carry on importing.

He could on the otherhand make a new account.

G4TV's MMO report features FFXIV this week!

I think this is bigger news than the release date announcement.

Of course they call it the "fanboy service" and they only did it so people would stop sending them e-mails about not reporting anything XIV related .

Waits for them to rip SE a new one, although I'm sure they have to play nice or get the privilege of being able to report on it taken away.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

HNM fights were fun, but camping them was far from it. So why not have a system where instead of Fafnir popping in Dragon's Aery every 21-24 hours it could pop in any high level zone at any random time of the day regardless of when it was killed, but only once per day. No one could camp it then. You'd just find out it has popped when someone encounters it and the first linkshell to get a group together would go kill it.

Problem is HNM will always be botted no matter what. Whether it be a claim war like at DA, or just a scan fest like DI/SW. I agree having it pop in a random zone once a day would probably be the best method, but you'd still have people with multiple accounts scanning each zone if the drops are worthwhile. I thought the solution to this problem was dealt with a long time ago by Einherjar. Yea, you could go camp everyday at HNM for your Abj's, but for people that weren't down for that, you could do this once every 3day instanced fight which was less than 30 mins long, and have a very good chance of HNM abj's dropping once you got to Odin. I realize instanced fighting isn't so popular with everyone, but at least it gave you another option to obtaining gear that dropped off kings, and you could still camp kings if you so desired. I realize that you couldn't get your ridill or dring from Einherjar, but you always have mog bonanza! Implementing the same system of HNM/Instanced fights for the same gear is fine by me. Kinda keeps everyone happy in a sense.

In other news, got a beta key off a friend of my brother who doesn't wanna play. Gogo slow ass FFXIV updater, let's hope you're done by Tuesday.

[Osede]

I'm pretty upset about these rates.
Why should I pay so much more just because I live in Europe?
Monthly fee in € is almost 30% higher than it is for NA players?

Dont worry, current the jp version is the shittiest. Most expensive in both game and monthly if anyone cares. This is one of the reason that I don't consider to get the JP CE, even though I would like to have the JP version CE bonus.


Well, the other problem is just the SE JP customer support.