Street Fighter X Tekken

[shidobu]

Yea im in the same boat as characters that are shown in a gdamn trailer need to be in the game at release when i give them that 64 bucks. Not a day 1 dlc, its fucking ludicrous at this point.

The way they handled ultimate @ 8months down the line was fine. we got what 8-12 new chars
(even tho jill/shuma are still fucking dlc) There was major tweaks game balances given. new modes and wow spectator lobbys now (fucking should have been in at the start)

but this game isn't even out yet and we are already hearing rumors of the massive amount of dlc characters/gems/color packs

i understand they are a company out to make money. But releasing 80% of your game then charging us for the last 20% because you can. isn't the way to do it

[Callisto]

I think it's bullshit that games are either becoming shorter or contain less engaging content. Whatever little content there may be is being packaged into little snippets of bullshit. Ok, you can take this however you want, but even if the prices have stayed "stable", in my experience, it doesn't reflect the correct ratio of engaging content to price. Of course, I'm just speaking in generalities. If you want specific examples, take a handful of Square Enix titles from previous years and examine how the majority of their 'extra content' has been doled out: mind numbingly, repetitive, boring missions - and that's on the disc. WTF? (Crisis Core, FF13, hell FF12, and Kingdom Hearts titles)

This is my big issue really. DLC characters I'm fine with, but take something like Alan Wake, where they put in a 5-hour story mode that was only like 2/3rds done, then charged me extra to play two more hours and see the actual ending. Of all the retarded shit I drop $5-10 on daily I won't complain too much about playable characters that I might get hundreds of hours of time out of.

[Callisto]

Also Welt is sort of on point with the $60 + $20 being more palatable, I can buy a game for $40-$60 and buy DLC later on the down-low(lol $15 in costume packs to get my sundress) but if g/f sees I'm dropping $80 up front per game I'd get my ass chewed out

[Don Katsu]

The character data for Oni, Evil Ryu, Yun and Yang was not on the super disc. That's also why it was a 1.5GB download which is about half the size of the original game. The balance patch was only 27MB. Whoever mentioned MK9 having framework (slots without movesets) is actually right. Either way, the best way to make more money is to charge for characters and gems and suckers will buy it. I don't give a shit even if its only $0.10 of out of my pocket they would make $1,000 from 10,000 people for content that should have been in the original game BECAUSE its already there.

They are essentially ripping you off by selling you an incomplete game and charging you for the rest of it later.

[Blackice]

Also, something to try and help the cost of the game. Newegg is running a pre-order for 45 instead of 60. Info below.

Newegg has Street Fighter X Tekken pre-order (Xbox 360 or PS3) for $45 when you enter coupon code EMCYTZT1116 at checkout. Shipping is free.

[Weltall]

Something was on the disc to allow it to be altered / extended via DLC. It doesn't mean the full character has to be on the disc, but there are requirements to enable DLC in the future. Period.

[Weltall]

Also, something to try and help the cost of the game. Newegg is running a pre-order for 45 instead of 60. Info below.

Great, so Gamefaqs morons can complain about getting the game 1-3 days after release because they decided to have it shipped instead of driving 2 miles down the road (most areas where normal people live).

Nothing against newegg, personally, I think they have the best shipping in the world, but that is because one of their main hubs is 3 hours away from me.

If you buy this game online, do not come here complaining on release day about EB/FedEx/UPS/USPS/NewEgg/BestBuy/whatever.

[Callisto]

Too bad they don't get their own gem pack like the other retailers, still I'll take $15 savings over more gems.

[Don Katsu]

Something was on the disc to allow it to be altered / extended via DLC. It doesn't mean the full character has to be on the disc, but there are requirements to enable DLC in the future. Period.

Correct. If the character downloads for SxT are in the KB range then yes people are getting jacked. If the characters are Cody and Guy they can stay locked on my copy both of them suck in Alpha and both of them suck in SF4 I can't see shit getting better for them anytime soon.

PS Cody even sucked in Final Fight

[Kaisha]

To be more specific, if they want to add a character, say Dante, to SF x Tekken, his framework will have to be on the disc. They can edit and make changes to frame data, costume, ultras, etc at a later date, but he must exist on the disc. You cannot just add a new character a year later to a game if they are not present on the disc, for any game.

It's called patching the game?

Unless 360 game updates are much more strict on that kind of addition of content for DLC compatibility than the PS3 is.......

[Weltall]

^ You just don't get it, so nvm.

Lol Shinebox GOING IN!!

[Lucavi]

I agree that they are nickeling and diming us. I also agree its because the consumer market is willing to pay for it. I disagree that I'm a "dumb fuck" because I have a career and can easily afford it. I'm intelligent enough to realize it is here to stay, and I only have to argue about it with dumb fucks.

You should also realize videogames were $59.99 a long ass time ago, and as our dollar becomes less valuable, prices will rise. Honestly, I'm surprised they aren't $69-$79 by now BEFORE DLC.

Games are shorter because it takes more money to invest and create them. Why spend years and years on Gran Tourismo to make less than you can pumping out Need 4 Speed games? These companies are on the stock market and must commit to maximizing profits.

Sad part is that the recent NFS titles (barring the run) have been better than the latest Gran Turismo. Working long =/= working smart. No company has to spend years developing a standalone single-player title, but by heavens, if they're going to take a long time, at least get it right.

Anyway, others are saying what I'm thinking, so there's no point in adding to the pile. I'll always argue against the notion, however, that just because someone remembers the days where shit wasn't tacked on after launch and likes their games complete from the get-go, they are somehow an "entitled prick". That's bullshit and it always will be bullshit.

[shidobu]

Also, something to try and help the cost of the game. Newegg is running a pre-order for 45 instead of 60. Info below.

BUT DO I GET MY AWESOME GEM DLC?!?!

[Blackice]

BUT DO I GET MY AWESOME GEM DLC?!?!

Negative, as far as I'm aware it's only BB/Zon/Gamestop doing the pre-order bonuses.

[shidobu]

Negative, as far as I'm aware it's only BB/Zon/Gamestop doing the pre-order bonuses.

damnit all to hell

o well only reason i think im buying this is cuz of the cash from my tax refun will be in soon. If it wasn't (fuck this game).

[Crab_Cake]

You know what else I would pay for? A freaking new HUD in Ultimate. They could COPY and PASTE the HUD from vanilla marvel and paste it into ultimate, and I'd still pay $5-10 for it.

Charge us for shit that actually affects the user experience and most people will hapilly pay. Charging for shit people expect to see from the get go just leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

Agreed. I'd pay $5 for the old gmail layout to stay and/or $20 to get "Disable Auto Arrange" in Windows 7. Google + Microsoft are you listening >.>?

[Odesseiron]

Great, so Gamefaqs morons can complain about getting the game 1-3 days after release because they decided to have it shipped instead of driving 2 miles down the road (most areas where normal people live).

Nothing against newegg, personally, I think they have the best shipping in the world, but that is because one of their main hubs is 3 hours away from me.

If you buy this game online, do not come here complaining on release day about EB/FedEx/UPS/USPS/NewEgg/BestBuy/whatever.

Or you can just buy it on Amazon like a person, with a brain, get a free$10 credit or more towards your next game, get release day shipping for $0.99 (which has NEVER once let me down) or nothing if you have Amazon Prime which I do. So I don't have to be bothered to go to the store ever. You're essentially paying $50 on Amazon with the credit. It's not like it's going to waste, seriously.

Oh but you said gamefaqs morons. They don't have brains.

[Scunsion]

honestly capcom is going to piss you guys off so hard just wait

its only just begun!

[Sho]

I'm mayad now for no reasons.

Fucking Capcom.

[Weltall]

Or you can just buy it on Amazon like a person, with a brain, get a free$10 credit or more towards your next game, get release day shipping for $0.99 (which has NEVER once let me down) or nothing if you have Amazon Prime which I do. So I don't have to be bothered to go to the store ever. You're essentially paying $50 on Amazon with the credit. It's not like it's going to waste, seriously.

Oh but you said gamefaqs morons. They don't have brains.

They are going to let someone down, period. That person will be on Gamefaqs complaining like everyone else the last 15 years. Idiots.

I send out items critical shipping ($260-400) daily almost for one small package and FedEx/UPS still doesn't get it there sometimes. It has nothing at all to do with Amazon. Fedex/UPS/USPS can drop the ball, and do all the time.