Street Fighter X Tekken

**Don Katsu** · 2012-03-15 11:00

You guys should check out a lot of the Japanese ranked matches for some reason several of them are using Ken and doing shit like LP SRK > sweep > HP SRK.... I didn't even know that was possible.....

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 11:11

Originally Posted by Viq

One thing that really makes tier lists useless at this point, especially back in the States, is that dudes that didn't play Tekken get blown up by shit that has been blockable for the past 4 years. A lot of Tekken characters have similar, if not identical strings to their T6 counterparts. Once people learn that there is no reason to ever block low against Hwarang he won't even be worth listing on tier lists, as an example. Someone in here mentioned a lack of Bob despite how good he is in T6. He actually is ass in T6, just American players don't know how to play that game right so they think he's good. After a while SF players will learn the Tekken characters from SFxT, and at that point balance can be talked about. For now when watching streams it's a lot of dudes getting hit by shit that won't work in two weeks.

It's still pretty easy to make distinctions based on other things, like the fact that two characters can have very similar strings in terms of execution/ease and distance of starter/meter usage, but one will do 200+ more damage than the other. One major dividing point I'm seeing so far is that the game seems to actively encourage jump-ins, and very, very few cast members have truly solid AAs that can beat air attacks clean, I think that will definitely separate some from others.

**Chun Liroy** · 2012-03-15 11:43

Well in that Case, Lili for top tier.

**AoE** · 2012-03-15 12:28

How will people know who to use if there are no tiers?!

**Ragnus** · 2012-03-15 12:36

They'll have to... *gasp*... pick characters they like.

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 12:51

Originally Posted by Ragnus

They'll have to... *gasp*... pick characters they like.

But then all the Tokidos will headasplode since they like their characters due to their tiers

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-03-15 13:00

Clearly the character you lose to in your last match is top tier.

**The Blackrose** · 2012-03-15 13:19

Originally Posted by Viq

Once people learn that there is no reason to ever block low against Hwarang he won't even be worth listing on tier lists, as an example.

s.LP? c.LK? Chains into sweep? 3rd hit in the s.MK s.MK 2 + s.LK s.HK chain? All of which can be cancelled with Heel? Come on, that's bullshit and you know it.

Also, I'm going to have to say after playing with someone the other day - Julia has the best anti-jump in SRK in the game.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-03-15 13:33

Having a lot of fun with Kaz. Wish I could go online and abuse the shit out of his overheads and his 100 hit combo.

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 13:34

Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza

Clearly the character you lose to in your last match is top tier.

Technically that's true, but only because everyone and their brother is using at least one of Rolento/Rang/Ryu

**Weltall** · 2012-03-15 14:52

Rufus is too broke in this game. It isn't even fun? lol

**Akiyama** · 2012-03-15 15:50

I'm dumb, Kuro owns, that is all.

**Chun Liroy** · 2012-03-15 15:53

Idk what is up with the hwoarang hate. He is a solid, but unbroken, character. Learn to block against him.

**The Blackrose** · 2012-03-15 16:06

Originally Posted by Silentleroy

Idk what is up with the hwoarang hate. He is a solid, but unbroken, character. Learn to block against him.

I'm not hating. I'm just saying that anybody who thinks he plays like he does in T6 is a moron and will be eating combos. He has some pretty good low options in SFxT.

**Chun Liroy** · 2012-03-15 16:09

I was actually talking about Calli's post, lol. I don't think what you said was hating at all. lol

Also: This must be why I can crouchblock and then randomly I get fucking hit, so goddamn annoying.

Also why I have trouble doing Ogre's hunting hawk... gdi.

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 16:41

I don't think he's broken per se, but he has mixup options that aren't exactly difficult, and they all lead to very solid damage. He can jump in or poke high or low, chain it into st.mp, Tekken combo into either an overhead groundbounce or cancel that combo into a combo into a completely safe special if the initial hit of the string gets blocked. You can act like you're about to do the latter, then cancel into an EX overhead groundbounce. You can do a raw overhead groundbounce into the same combo finisher without initial pokes. You can't just do one-size-fits all blocking on him, yes you know the overhead is coming but he can vary when in the string it comes greatly.

**octopus** · 2012-03-15 16:49

I don't hate him, I just don't like to use characters that are overly popular.

For some reason in most fighting games I try to use the more obscure characters.

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 16:55

Originally Posted by octopus

I don't hate him, I just don't like to use characters that are overly popular.

For some reason in most fighting games I try to use the more obscure characters.

You should probably be running Sim/Yoshimitsu then.

**Callisto** · 2012-03-15 16:58

http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/15/mach...-pst-5-pm-est/

Kinda interested to see ReNiC/Max.

**octopus** · 2012-03-15 17:00

Originally Posted by Callisto

You should probably be running Sim/Yoshimitsu then.

lol, I have no interest in playing bottom tier either (although I did play Makoto in SSF4...)

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