Conjurer

**Cjskater** · 2010-08-25 11:11

Originally Posted by meonline

This is the most complete skill listing I have from phases 2 + 3.

They are all incomplete in some way, so if you see anything wrong or have info I don't, let me know and I'll correct them.

Think I got everything right... I just copy pasted the whole thing since it would probably be easier to fix your list that way, haha.

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**Loaar** · 2010-08-25 23:31

Originally Posted by Cjskater

Think I got everything right... I just copy pasted the whole thing since it would probably be easier to fix your list that way, haha.

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Very true, much appreciated.

**Nevex** · 2010-08-27 00:57

Has the elemental wheel been changed from FFXI?
I can't seem to be able to find an official source but from what I've seen now it's been split in two triangles:
Fire>Ice>Wind>Fire
Water>Earth>Thunder>Water

Can anyone confirm?

**Callisto** · 2010-08-27 01:00

That's correct, pretty sure that info is from the guide that you can read at the Aetheryte crystals.

**miokomioko** · 2010-08-27 01:27

Yeah, it's explained as:

fire melts ice
ice obstructs wind
wind puts out fire

&

water erodes earth
earth grounds lightning
lightning boils water

**Amiricle** · 2010-08-27 04:50

Here I thought that might have been a typo. Wierd that they'd swap water & wind around for no reason, since they are keeping the same 8 element system.

**Callisto** · 2010-08-27 10:45

I think they wanted to keep it two separate cycles as is, and water beating wind or fire beating water didn't really make as much sense as what they have.

**Nevex** · 2010-08-27 10:59

Can't say that wind beating fire instead of water/ice as it's always been makes much sense either... but it's SE's logic we're talking about.

**Callisto** · 2010-08-27 11:12

Eh wind can go either way, it can blow it out or spread it horribly amongst an entire forest. Wind beating Fire makes more sense than the other ways they'd have to move it around without keeping the XI wheel.

**Callisto** · 2010-08-29 23:55

Updated.

**Lazytowner** · 2010-08-30 11:12

This is a very minor complaint, but I hope casting animations of higher-level abilities differ from the typical waiving of the wand/staff I've seen so far. I loved how the Tarutaru looked when casting -- looked more like they were concentrating on the spell instead of throwing it.

Again, very minor but I'm hoping for some at least some differing casting animations for the avatar.

**Souris** · 2010-08-30 15:07

Hmmm... Elemental nukes IV lvl 72 in Open Beta Dats. I wonder what will be the actual level max at release

**Callisto** · 2010-08-30 15:33

I believe they said 40 for OB and 50 for retail.

**Callisto** · 2010-08-30 17:04

Updated with OB info, no major changes really, just a bunch of mostly minor MP cost adjustments. Most significant change is that tier II elemental nukes now cost 20 instead of 45.

**Ratatapa** · 2010-09-01 09:51

Ok fellow conjurer I need your input

How well do you think a conjurer will need to input their points to be worthwhile

Separate on PIE MND and INT or concentrate on INT + PIE or MND +PIE?

**Hyan** · 2010-09-01 10:09

Distribute them evenly.

Probably a bit more INT and little less MND.

**Nevex** · 2010-09-01 10:09

As far as I know MND has no effect on spells at all, it's just magic defense this time.
Radiance seems an interesting WS (Astral damage and converts about 10% of the damage dealt in MP) and Conj's attacks have 100% accuracy so TP is not an issue, but WS's are still affected by DEX/acc.
Putting a few points in DEX might be useful in specific situations.

**Ratatapa** · 2010-09-01 10:15

MND is cure

Edit so could do like each lv for 8 pts

3 INT

2Piet and 2 MND

and sometimes change around

**Callisto** · 2010-09-01 10:59

Radiance seemed a bit closer to 5% MP return, at least in P3. I usually get about 8-12 back when doing 180-200 damage. The accuracy of it was really not that great, though OB will likely have more weapons higher than level 1 which may hopefully have some accuracy on them. I piled a bit into DEX which did not seem to noticeably affect the accuracy of either Radiance or Damnation. It may have been upped a bit either way, we'll find out tonight.

**Nevex** · 2010-09-04 03:56

Unlike FFXI, elemental resistance affects overall damage dealt before factoring random resists in, and not just in terms of half/quarter/etc. damage.
Water on those floating jellyfish-like things outside Limsa never broke 120 while Thunder was doing 180+ consistently when unresisted.

Also, Conjurer's nukes seem to crit much more often than Banish and Scourge, but might have been random luck.

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