Gladiator

[Spider-Dan]

Did not on THM or CON, and never did in Beta on any class.

Yes, actually, it did (and likely still does). You seem to be trying to represent that you actually tried this out and it didn't work; please stop spreading false information.

I presume that it still works post-patch (I've seen nothing indicating otherwise, other than your incorrect post), but I haven't specifically seen a confirmation.

[Biggie]

Yes, actually, it did (and likely still does). You seem to be trying to represent that you actually tried this out and it didn't work; please stop spreading false information.

I presume that it still works post-patch (I've seen nothing indicating otherwise, other than your incorrect post), but I haven't specifically seen a confirmation.

Ummm no It does not! please stop spreading false information! Tested on CON and THM!! Does not work, never has. I'm 3 ranks away from getting it on GLA, and will be more than happy to prove you wrong there also. Friend is 36 THM, tried it before and after patch, does NOT work. Friend is 38 CON, tried it after patch, does NOT work. Again, please stop spreading false information. I party with this THM and COn every single day since beta, not sure why they would lie about it not working....

Of course you can "equip" the ability, you can equip anything, but CAn NOT use the ability on another class.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Did not on THM or CON, and never did in Beta on any class.

Yes, it did work. A LNC in my guild was able to equip Speed Surge on PUG with his affinity trait. Kaeko was also posting that he could cross-class the mana abilities. The potency is crap with +10 affinity though, like 5% return on stuff.

It worked before this patch and I am 100% sure of that.

[Kaeko]

Worked pre-patch, no longer works post-patch. I know this for sure because I accidentally hit Tranquility on THM a number of times and ended up recovering only like 50 MP with a 20 minute recast.

Definitely does not work now though.

[solracht]

This has been bugging me for a while... Spinstroke did get nerfed between beta and release, right? The move does the same damage whether you're tanking the mob or not and I don't remember this always being the case.

[Biggie]

Yes, it did work. A LNC in my guild was able to equip Feint on PUG with his affinity trait. Kaeko was also posting that he could cross-class the mana abilities. The potency is crap with +10 affinity though, like 5% return on stuff.

It worked before this patch and I am 100% sure of that.

lol.... Feint is not class specific, nice try though.

[Spider-Dan]

So are you going to continue to pretend that it "never" worked? That the people in the thread I just cited (one of whom has some small amount of credibility in the community) just randomly invented a different return and recast on Tranquility?

[Kaeko]

I can show you screenshots of me on THM with my action bar opened and both Exaltation and Tranquility usable. He's right about Feint though. There's no problem using Feint on any job.

EDIT:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1...7212454.th.png

So I'm clearly on THM right now. Holding a scepter, and fighting the boss of the level36 class quest.
First action bar slot 1 clearly have Exaltation highlighted.
Action bar slot 2 is tranquility. There are no icon repeats I believe so if you really go around fishing for icons, you'll find that that's indeed tranquility.
Notice it's also active.

That's all the proof I'm willing to give. I have video of me soloing where you can probably fish it out too but honestly not willing to go that far.

[miokomioko]

I wonder for what purpose this was removed. Especially since abilities with 10 affinity pretty much sucked butthole.

[Grey Jorildyn]

lol.... Feint is not class specific, nice try though.

My bad, I meant Speed Surge, not Feint. I was setting my macros again when typing up this post.

It worked pre-patch and does not now. Why is that so hard for you to grasp exactly?

[Biggie]

I trust each and every one of you that it worked in the past. Just not sure why it never worked for my friend, who is leveling both THM and CON and tried, but never worked for him and still doesn't. Again, I have no reason not to trust my friend who I group with every day. Just doesn't make sense why it never worked for him.

[Yoli]

How are people splitting stats? I don't /really/ have a use for mind - I don't think the magic defense would be huge unless I got a lot of points invested in it, and I don't really need extra mp (although I wouldn't object). I feel a bid odd starting to dump so many points into vit or str to get a +1 stat there though, when 1 point could get me +1 mind. For elemental resists, my impression is most people are still just splitting them evenly?

Has anyone found it worth upping mind to the point where it would start to take +2 points to increase the stat point by 1? (Or has anyone played with any other less obvious stats/levels?)

What about the other stats. I assume you want to keep vit hanging up at the softcap. And STR played a role in blocking, so we want str to be not far behind I guess? Put the rest into dex?

[Amastacia]

I've been capping VIT, splitting the rest of the points between STR and DEX with a bias towards STR since I'm leveling BSM in tandem.

[Black]

any good place for solo 41+ other than copperbell mines or the doblyn near Broken water?

[euph]

~44-45+ you can duo sphene dobylns outside of uldah with a THM or CON for exp equal to or maybe better than mines / broken water.

[Ruin]

Whats the deal with Bladed Lantern Shield on GLA? Does it have any sort of hidden trait or any reason to use it rather than a real shield?

[miokomioko]

the doblyn near Broken water?

Are they even there anymore? I was just running the gauntlet of Dwarf Diremites/Molting Mitelings (where there used to be nothing but Doblyns) just trying to get to that camp since the recent update.

[Black]

Are they even there anymore? I was just running the gauntlet of Dwarf Diremites/Molting Mitelings (where there used to be nothing but Doblyns) just trying to get to that camp since the recent update.

there is area full of Doblyns !

[Carraway]

Whats the deal with Bladed Lantern Shield on GLA? Does it have any sort of hidden trait or any reason to use it rather than a real shield?

It has +attack on it. It has lantern shield-type stat allocation.

[Ruin]

Yeah but like how bad is its blocking and def? Heard mixed things about it having a hidden trait to..