Gladiator

[ayjis]

What level can a Gladiator solo rank 20 leves? I'm 14 now and really bored of rank 10 ones.

[Caiti]

I started right at 13. <- Sath, wrong PC

[Podginator]

Here's what I did to level up Shield, it's still tedious, but it felt a bit faster to me. Start any easy leve, it can be however many stars, I usually did 1 or 2. Get to the mobs, and use Shock spikes, attack once, then spam guard, using cure and second wind when necessary. The mob should die from the spikes, and you should get around 200-500 shield skill. I got to 10 this way fairly quickly.

Between leves I did this with blue Marmots and Rats. This was noticeably slower, however, and took much longer. I got a max of around 250 shield skills, mostly around 100-150. I wouldn't recommend it outside of leves.

[avelle]

Here's what I did to level up Shield, it's still tedious, but it felt a bit faster to me. Start any easy leve, it can be however many stars, I usually did 1 or 2. Get to the mobs, and use Shock spikes, attack once, then spam guard, using cure and second wind when necessary. The mob should die from the spikes, and you should get around 200-500 shield skill. I got to 10 this way fairly quickly.

Between leves I did this with blue Marmots and Rats. This was noticeably slower, however, and took much longer. I got a max of around 250 shield skills, mostly around 100-150. I wouldn't recommend it outside of leves.

I've been doing pretty much the same thing but hitting Phalanx every once in a while rather than using Shock Spikes. The stun means a longer delay between their melee swings and I get bored easily. :/

[Darus Grey]

Just PM'd this to Lyra but I'll post here too since I play too infrequently to really contribute with any speed - help me out with this theory if you can Gladiators:

Also have lv11 Bronze gladius instead of the lv9 bronze dagger since I'm working on a theory about damage type + attack type + how fast your gear gets damaged. I'll let you know if it yields any results but if you wanna help me test since I'm ultra casual right now it goes as follows:

Bronze Dagger GLA 9 Piercing 80% Slashing 20%
GLA main attack = light slash -> deals slashing damage

Weathered Gladius R1->R9 60% slashing 40% piercing
Light slash only -> R1 -> R9 no need for repairs

B Dagger using light slash -> R9 -> R15 repair 7 times (below 50%)

B Gladius R15 (just bought last night, no testing) slashing 60% piercing 40%
Hopefully I'll need to repair far less using slashing affinity with slashing weapon

Helpful ways of testing would be to count number of battles from 75% to 50% with Bdagger using light slash -> repair -> count battles from 75% to 50% using light thrust

Anything like that could help put together a better picture of efficiency since our class has different weapon types and not a lot is known about the game yet.

Not scientific by any means but I'm 100% positive you're correct based on observation.

For mage weapons it seems like durability loss is multiplied by number of targets(healing a legion= weapon breaks in 5 minutes), so it seems like durability is a set amount based on number of actions.

[OWS_Tonx]

Can't really find a guide or any sort of info. online yet, what gear should I be wearing at lvl 11? shit's frustrating, mobs beating my ass etc

[Carraway]

Can't really find a guide or any sort of info. online yet, what gear should I be wearing at lvl 11? shit's frustrating, mobs beating my ass etc

Go to yg or ffxivarchives or ZAM and look for gladiator-specific gear (or gear that gladiators are favored by) close to optimal rank 11. Off the top of my head, the biggest upgrade you could probably land is a suit of bronze chainmail.

[Noob]

This.

Hate's been fucked up from the get-go, and at least at lower levels beyond engaging first, GLD is terrible at tanking multiple mobs.

Phalanx is a godsend, and it makes me very sad in the pants that more people don't abuse the hell out of it. Great source of damage while tanking, makes hate management easier (for your currently engaged target, anyway), and the occasional regular attack + blocks is enough TP to continuously feed your Phalanx habit.

Yes please! SE please fix hate! Been doing alot of PTing and finding hate to be so screwy it means lots of random death on levequests of all levels

[Grey Jorildyn]

Can't really find a guide or any sort of info. online yet, what gear should I be wearing at lvl 11? shit's frustrating, mobs beating my ass etc

Sheepskin Harness, Copper Barbut, Bronze Hoplon, Sheepskin Subligar, Sheepskin Jackboots. Hands idr.
Bronze Chainmail @12, Bronze Sallet@15, Sheepskin Armguards@15 are good upgrades.

[Null]

What level can a Gladiator solo rank 20 leves? I'm 14 now and really bored of rank 10 ones.

I had a rank 20 leve off glad points so I tried it with my level 10 glad. Took it out easy. Ended up doing two rank 20 leves at 10.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Just picked up Heavy Slash. No cooldown, just like the other slash/stab moves. Uses the same amount of Stamina as Provoke (approximately 2/5th of bar). Also does about 25% more damage than Light Slash.

Bumble Beatle damage
Light Slash: 181 167 177 175 164 155
Heavy Slash: 243 255 257 255 251 246

Haven't gotten to see what the enmity boost on it is like, but if it's even half what Phalanx gives, it'll make a huge difference. Will find out later tonight during LS faction leves.

[Aratharn]

I am main GLA but have been getting a shit ton of PUG guild marks... anyone have any suggestions on whether to upgrade the PUG ability that gets you +10% from Healing Abilities OR increasing the affinity by 10 so second wind gains more? Leaning towards the 10% since cures and whatnot will heal for more but I am not even sure if this will work if you aren't on PUG main.

Also anyone know for sure whether or not these abilities will actually still work when not being PUG main?

[Dense]

I am main GLA but have been getting a shit ton of PUG guild marks... anyone have any suggestions on whether to upgrade the PUG ability that gets you +10% from Healing Abilities OR increasing the affinity by 10 so second wind gains more? Leaning towards the 10% since cures and whatnot will heal for more but I am not even sure if this will work if you aren't on PUG main.

Also anyone know for sure whether or not these abilities will actually still work when not being PUG main?

According to yg, both Seasoned Veteren (increased PUG affinity by 10), and Prime conditioning (healing effects +10%) are suited for all classes...

[miokomioko]

The only Pugilist skills you wouldn't be able to use on any other class are:

Light Strike
Heavy Strike
Seismic Shock
Seismic Shock II
Pummel
Flurry
Simian Thrash

Pretty much just the basic attacks and the obviously unique abilities don't carry over between classes.

Traits are traits and wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if they didn't carry over between classes when each class only gets two traits.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Heavy Strike seems to generate a decent amount of enmity. It has such a high stamina cost though. I've made a blog post with some solo/party setups and am wondering what other kinds of abilities would be worthwhile to have going into the 20s on Gladiator. Post here or there doesn't matter to me. Thanks ahead of time.

[BerenTebogo]

Good guide as expected. Only thing I would note is that the stun effect from shock spikes and slightly less overall damage countered than from PB makes it a more viable solo-grind defensive spell in my opinion.

Although, the stun effect does come at one heavy cost, which is of course a decrease in shield skill rate. Seems stuck choosing between slower sentinel skill or slower gladiator skill.

I also keep Rampart equipped full-time when soloing guildleves and save it for when I'm approaching a mob that has run away and stopped since it will save you a headache when you get ambushed. I also don't use Phalanx at all when soloing guildleves since it kills mobs too fast and wastes my favor

[Grey Jorildyn]

I see your points. I will have to level up to get Shock Spikes and see that for myself; sounds really cool!

I actually have been utilizing rampart in place of Ferocity during my guildleves. I probably should have included that tidbit. A guildleve set is another good idea... this game is becoming just as 'shit's situational' as the last one. If it's not gear, it's action bar setups! Oy...

Thanks for the feedback Sath!

[BerenTebogo]

Np. I probably have a slightly different perspective since I've only been in party play twice and both times were for < 30 minutes each. From a completely solo angle it definitely changes what you prioritize as a gladiator.

Biggest example off the top of my head at 6am is that I'll be hopefully getting the shield duration +50% buff first (tonight, if leves don't suck) instead of the enmity generation hit.

Also, all accuracy, all the time. It's something that I need to continually keep my eye on and temper my use of still precision judiciously.

Edit: Actually I've been looking for a Bronze Pelta and haven't seen any in bazaars. Are they found at a NPC by any chance?

[shidobu]

Edit: Actually I've been looking for a Bronze Pelta and haven't seen any in bazaars. Are they found at a NPC by any chance?

http://ffxiv.yg.com/item/bronze-pelta?id=4100702
Should be easy to make. find a armorer on your server thats worth a damn. NP

[Grey Jorildyn]

I wanted to grab that one first but a conjurer in my shell was saying one of his guild mark abilities was remaining greyed out, possibly because it was much higher optimal rank than he was. I was in the middle of something so I really didn't get details on it (will later). Seems strange based on how the rest of the game is designed to allow you to equip whatever, whenever.

I'm up to 7k marks again myself so self-preservation in next on my list. When choosing between it and Heavy Slash, I went with the latter because it brought something brand new to the class rather than just a convenience. Although S-P is no doubt total winsauce.