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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    The fact that he tore off a lot of huge runs doesn't help his case. That's very hard to repeat.
    Sure it does. He is probably the fastest player in pads in the NFL. Not only did he break off 7 runs over 50, but he also led the league in 20+ yard runs with 22, AD had 12.

    And AD is no slouch at catching balls. I think he caught 45 last year. I know CJ catches a lot, but I'm betting it wasn't much more than AD. And that was with Taylor taking away some catches. Now he not only has a rookie backing him up, it's a white rookie. This goes without saying that only 1 RB has been in the top 3 for the past 3 seasons. I'll take consistency at the number 1 spot over someone with one breakout season. Give me AD at number one All Day.
    AD had more catches/yards than I figured, and with Chester Taylor gone those are sure to increase. You can't go wrong either way, but watching Chris Johnson carry my team last year(he had 329 points compared to 265 for AD; 4 ppg difference) is enough to make him my choice.

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    You have the 4th pick, All Day, CJ, and ray ray are off, who do you take 4th? Jackson? MJD? Is rice the popular 3rd overall even at this point? I'd take him 3, I think a lot of people will take others at that spot tho..

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    Quote Originally Posted by volcanicweather View Post
    Yes, because he was the 3rd down running back and one of the best pass blocking running backs in the league? Taylor isn't a slouch, he will be missed for sure. Gerhart not being in camp right now is killing us because even though he was a decent pass blocker and receiver in college, he needs to prove he can do it at the next level. The longer he holds out the higher AP's stock will rise imo
    Once again.. you're not seeing where I'm coming from at all. That "Was there a reason to bring him in" wasn't a slight. It was more of me saying they did bring him in for a reason; aka rhetorical. D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Once again.. you're not seeing where I'm coming from at all. That "Was there a reason to bring him in" wasn't a slight. It was more of me saying they did bring him in for a reason; aka rhetorical. D:
    you make the internet so difficult sometimes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andarvi View Post
    You have the 4th pick, All Day, CJ, and ray ray are off, who do you take 4th? Jackson? MJD? Is rice the popular 3rd overall even at this point? I'd take him 3, I think a lot of people will take others at that spot tho..
    is it a league with a scoring system tyche likes?

    if yes, drew brees

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    I'd like to participate in BG Premier and BG West, the leagues I was in last year.

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    I was in 2 leagues 2 years ago, and just 1 league last year. Finished with 1 loss and then lost in 1st round of playoffs >.< Anyways I'm up to rejoin my league from last year and join 1 more if theres room again. I don't like the idea of playing for money but I'll do it if most people want to. I'm just really getting tired of losing in the playoffs because teams are starting to sit people at end of year (I'm looking at you Indy). I almost wish there was another way to do playoffs in FFL, like having a 2nd draft during the actual playoffs so you don't get screwed like that.

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    20 man scoring system from last year

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    Offense

    Completions 0.2
    Incomplete Passes -0.2
    Passing Yards 40 yards per point; 1 points at 350 yards
    Passing Touchdowns 3
    Interceptions -1
    Rushing Yards 20 yards per point; 1 points at 150 yards
    Rushing Touchdowns 6
    Reception Yards 20 yards per point; 1 points at 150 yards
    Reception Touchdowns 6
    Return Yards 50 yards per point
    Return Touchdowns 6
    2-Point Conversions 2
    Fumbles Lost -2
    Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
    Kickers League Value Y
    Field Goals 0-19 Yards 2
    Field Goals 20-29 Yards 2
    Field Goals 30-39 Yards 2
    Field Goals 40-49 Yards 2.5
    Field Goals 50+ Yards 3
    Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards -1
    Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards -1
    Point After Attempt Made 1

    Defense/Special Teams

    Sack 1
    Interception 2
    Fumble Recovery 2
    Touchdown 6
    Safety 2
    Block Kick 2
    Points Allowed 0 points 10
    Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
    Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
    Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
    Points Allowed 21-27 points 0
    Points Allowed 28-34 points -1
    Points Allowed 35+ points -4


    again we'll see what people want to do

    I'll renew it as soon as I figure out how to ban miz

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    So none of the leagues use standard scoring?

    If not, does anyone want to play in a standard league?

    Standard scoring:
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    Passing Yards 25 yards per point
    Passing Touchdowns 4
    Interceptions -2
    Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
    Rushing Touchdowns 6
    Reception Yards 10 yards per point
    Reception Touchdowns 6
    Return Touchdowns 6
    2-Point Conversions 2
    Fumbles Lost -2
    Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
    Kickers League Value Y
    Field Goals 0-39 Yards 3
    Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
    Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
    Field Goals Missed -1
    Point After Attempt Made 1

    Defense/Special Teams

    Sack 1
    Interception 2
    Fumble Recovery 2
    Touchdown 6
    Safety 2
    Block Kick 2
    Points Allowed 0 points 10
    Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
    Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
    Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
    Points Allowed 21-27 points -1
    Points Allowed 28-34 points -4
    Points Allowed 35-45 points -7
    Points Allowed 46+ points -10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    20 man scoring system from last year

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    Offense

    Completions 0.2
    Incomplete Passes -0.2
    Passing Yards 40 yards per point; 1 points at 350 yards
    Passing Touchdowns 3
    Interceptions -1
    Rushing Yards 20 yards per point; 1 points at 150 yards
    Rushing Touchdowns 6
    Reception Yards 20 yards per point; 1 points at 150 yards
    Reception Touchdowns 6
    Return Yards 50 yards per point
    Return Touchdowns 6
    2-Point Conversions 2
    Fumbles Lost -2
    Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
    Kickers League Value Y
    Field Goals 0-19 Yards 2
    Field Goals 20-29 Yards 2
    Field Goals 30-39 Yards 2
    Field Goals 40-49 Yards 2.5
    Field Goals 50+ Yards 3
    Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards -1
    Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards -1
    Point After Attempt Made 1

    Defense/Special Teams

    Sack 1
    Interception 2
    Fumble Recovery 2
    Touchdown 6
    Safety 2
    Block Kick 2
    Points Allowed 0 points 10
    Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
    Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
    Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
    Points Allowed 21-27 points 0
    Points Allowed 28-34 points -1
    Points Allowed 35+ points -4


    again we'll see what people want to do

    I'll renew it as soon as I figure out how to ban miz
    Doubt I'll play 20-man this year, already doing 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    is it a league with a scoring system tyche likes?

    if yes, drew brees
    Why is it such an atrocity that the QB scores more than the RB? I don't get it at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    So none of the leagues use standard scoring?

    If not, does anyone want to play in a standard league?

    Standard scoring:
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    Passing Yards 25 yards per point
    Passing Touchdowns 4
    Interceptions -2
    Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
    Rushing Touchdowns 6
    Reception Yards 10 yards per point
    Reception Touchdowns 6
    Return Touchdowns 6
    2-Point Conversions 2
    Fumbles Lost -2
    Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
    Kickers League Value Y
    Field Goals 0-39 Yards 3
    Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
    Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
    Field Goals Missed -1
    Point After Attempt Made 1

    Defense/Special Teams

    Sack 1
    Interception 2
    Fumble Recovery 2
    Touchdown 6
    Safety 2
    Block Kick 2
    Points Allowed 0 points 10
    Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
    Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
    Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
    Points Allowed 21-27 points -1
    Points Allowed 28-34 points -4
    Points Allowed 35-45 points -7
    Points Allowed 46+ points -10
    Mine's basically standard adapted to the fact that 20 people is a freaking lot.

    It's a bit TD heavy so people can do well with goal line backs and big, red zone target WR/TE's when necessary, the kickers are nerfed a bit, and enough people qq'd about qb's not scoring enough points that I caved and added the completion percentage bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Why is it such an atrocity that the QB scores more than the RB? I don't get it at all?
    Why is it such an atrocity that the RB scores more than the WR?

    I don't have a problem with the average qb scoring more than the average RB, I have a problem when the average QB outscores the best RB by miles and miles.

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    Who's running BGP and BGW?

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    In the leauge with Tyrs scoring system, Brees outscored Chris Johnson by 5 points a game, which is completely fair. Especially considering how unimportant the RB success at the position is to a teams success now-a-days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    In the leauge with Tyrs scoring system, Brees outscored Chris Johnson by 5 points a game, which is completely fair. Especially considering how unimportant the RB success at the position is to a teams success now-a-days.
    wow

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    Tyr, and I don't know how BGP is going to be handled. The top players from the other BG leagues get invited to BGP so you have the best owners. I won BGP last year, so I better be returning to defend my title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    wow
    Which part would you like to contend? All of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    wow
    pretty much.

    edit: Chris Johnson had 2500 total yards which is fucking ridiculous for a RB, and 16 total TDs.

    I don't know how you can think Brees(who had a very good, but not a historically good Brady/Manning season) should outscore the best RB season in years by that many points a game.

    And again, even in standard scoring, QBs score the most generally, Garrard tied with Andre Johnson, etc.

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    8 of the top 10 passing offenses made the playoffs, the two that didn't were playing for a playoff spot in week 17. Two of the top 4 made the superbowl.

    5 of the top 10 rushing teams made the playoffs. Only 2 of those made it to their championship games, and those two, the Jets and Saints. One of which has a prolific passing offense and a top 3 QB...the other made it to the championship on 4 strait missed FGs, and a blown tackle by a corner they now have on their team.

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