FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread V: No one told me beta would have problems in it

[Lucavi]

glad defends alot better vs.. like normal hits but when it comes to monster ability, it does a ton compared to pug taking the hit.

Like I see a Lv 24 gladiator taking 140 damage from a jelly fish bind while I take 80-100 from the same thing

like someone mentioned, pug can apparently parry enemy abilities while gladiator can't shield block them. Maybe they will fix that later on.

You ever think its your defensive items vs. his? When they fix the equipment bug and non-glads/lancers/marauders aren't using mail and high level weapons, you'll probably see pugs taking a lot more damage and tanks taking a lot less.

With all the bugs right now, its too soon to speculate why anyone is dealing/taking so much/little damage.

[Questionable]

Ok getting close to rank 10 on CON. I'm still confused about the levequest stuff. So when Iam level 10 I can do more of them but only once? I don't understand, I was able to do one at level 1 CON when I started at the first camp but I never can do those again? I know there's no wiki yet and things are on the quiet side due to SE's policies but I really want to understand what are the requirements/timers etc to do these... I know you can do them with others, but what about starting up my own?

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Can't wait for phase 3... this loggin every 5 mins to fix the skill gain bug is annoying. Also, is anyone else getting this bug where you spend 150% stamina per ability?

[Hyan]

With all the bugs right now, its too soon to speculate why anyone is dealing/taking so much/little damage.

It's never too early to speculate! :D

Can't wait for phase 3... this loggin every 5 mins to fix the skill gain bug is annoying.

Kinda assuming they would fix that before phase 3.. =/

[mintyice]

"Because password entry has failed multiple times, you will not be able to log in for several minutes."

wat. can't log onto the dev site or the beta. says my password is wrong but it is right and i know it's right.

[GameDragon]

Kinda assuming they would fix that before phase 3.. =/

I was under the assumption there wouldn't be any fixes on Phase 2 at all.

[Hyan]

I was under the assumption there wouldn't be any fixes on Phase 2 at all.

They've been updating and patching stuff like every few days =/

EDIT: Doesn't printscreen>paste work with this game? Friend wants to know.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Kinda assuming they would fix that before phase 3.. =/

Same here. On the same note, have to log again cuz I just got the bug.

[Gokulo]

It works of course.

[Ashira]

let me regale you with a tale of logging:
I chopped at the 2 o'clock mark > you feel nothing promising
I chopped at the 4 o'clock mark > you are getting closer to the mark
I chopped at the 5 o'clock mark > you are getting further from the mark
I chopped at the 3 o'clock mark > you cut down a crow feather +1

I had been under the impression that if you chop in two different places, and your 2nd chop said you were getting closer to the mark it meant you were going in the right direction and the proper chopping point was further in the same direction. But instead it seems that it compares the distance in either direction from the proper place to your current chop with the distance from proper chopping point of your previous chop.
I had gotten to level 15 mining and 12 logging without realizing this, so thought I would post it.

I'm basing this on two instances where this has happened to me so don't take it 100% and confirmation of how this works would be handy.

Fairly common sensical, noticed this myself early on in mining.

[Gulkeeva]

You ever think its your defensive items vs. his? When they fix the equipment bug and non-glads/lancers/marauders aren't using mail and high level weapons, you'll probably see pugs taking a lot more damage and tanks taking a lot less.

With all the bugs right now, its too soon to speculate why anyone is dealing/taking so much/little damage.

maybe, I've been swapping lv30 guildleve items with others for mail and got pretty well armored now and a good amount of hp!
defense 271, magic defense 232 elemental resistance 151. evasion 159


also has anyone tried sj protect/shell to see how well it does? If its like shockspikes.. omg op

also when I was at a new exp camp, I saw the airship go overhead smei close... looks more like a spaceship then one the airships we saw from ffxi
farthest to the east of the bloodshore aether on the edge of the water, shows up every hour or so if you want to look at it fly overhead.

[shaddix]

Fairly common sensical, noticed this myself early on in mining.

thanks for confirmation, only reason it took me so long to realize that is because the other way of thinking(that it was single direction oriented) worked for me perfectly except for twice that I knew off

[Lucavi]

Kuro and I are fighting some bandit guys in a cave and I broke their fucking legs with skewer 2. Apparently each time I used it, since it pierces through, it targeted their legs (from the rear, even though I was in front). When I crit with it, it incapacitated the dude's legs, and he couldn't run anymore.

They also exhibit WoW- like intelligence, in that when one is weakened, they'll disengage and run back to the group, then re-engage after the fresh one begins fighting.

[Rionel]

Got Second Wind from PUG, working on Lancer now to get Speed Surge...

Are there any other "sub" abilities I might wanna look out for for my Gladiator? Those are the only ones I can think of... Archer and Marauder abilities I have no idea about.

Same for Conjurer actually. I read about the MP Drain spikes thingy from Thaumaturge (Level 16?) but is that as far as it should go?

[Vacht]

@Lith: Yep :D



1. You really thought they would allow people to like..never walk again? No one likes travel times yet would complain of a small world. They will likely adjust it but they definitely made it in a way you can't just port your happy ass everywhere and never have to walk again lol.

2. Beta didn't end unless I missed the memo?

Our characters would soon develop obesity, and then we couldnt walk anywhere! ahhhhhhh~

but yeah, adventuring is totally walking/running places. Id rather there not be teleports! In DAoC when mostly horses were used to get everywhere, when you had to sit and wait to actually travel the distance... it was awesome. Provided a certain exclusivity to an adventure.

I hate it when youre like "whoa this is raddddd! how did we find this place?!" and then some jackass teleports in from right outside or inside the damn place, and grabs what he needs then leaves. And then a rare place is crawling with people.

[Achitophel]

Got Second Wind from PUG, working on Lancer now to get Speed Surge...

Are there any other "sub" abilities I might wanna look out for for my Gladiator? Those are the only ones I can think of... Archer and Marauder abilities I have no idea about.

Same for Conjurer actually. I read about the MP Drain spikes thingy from Thaumaturge (Level 16?) but is that as far as it should go?

Earlier in this thread, someone said they couldn't equip Speed Surge on their GLAD. I assumed they were crazy or something I decided to find out on my own.


They were right. Spear onry.

Marauder gets Defender at 10.

[Ashira]

thanks for confirmation, only reason it took me so long to realize that is because the other way of thinking(that it was single direction oriented) worked for me perfectly except for twice that I knew off

Yeah, think that's sort of an odds thing really, for the most part same directional would work.

[Chakra]

also when I was at a new exp camp, I saw the airship go overhead smei close... looks more like a spaceship then one the airships we saw from ffxi
farthest to the east of the bloodshore aether on the edge of the water, shows up every hour or so if you want to look at it fly overhead.

I'm making a guess that these ships may land at those land docks placed around La Noscea. Could very well be another form of transportation for those, but there are no tracks or rails so I just assume it is aerial.

I have in the back of my brain a quote I read in either this thread or another which read that they wanted to make FFXIV what FFXI couldn't be and I go back to this unused zone in FFXI with a rail train in this Youtube video.

[Hyan]

If you could teleport everywhere at any time without limitations they might had as well make this game an online RPG like PSO.

Which doesn't sound too bad to me, but I don't think it's their intention here.

I doubt it's the only form of teleporting we'll see though, I hope we can teleport from LL to ale/wineport someday for example.

[Rionel]

Earlier in this thread, someone said they couldn't equip Speed Surge on their GLAD. I assumed they were crazy or something I decided to find out on my own.

They were right. Spear onry.

Marauder gets Defender at 10.

D'oh. Well at least there's Ferocity.

Don't Marauder's also get Blood Bath or something? That's not bad if I remember.