FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread V: No one told me beta would have problems in it

[Achitophel]

D'oh. Well at least there's Ferocity.

Don't Marauder's also get Blood Bath or something? That's not bad if I remember.

Oh yeah. That's very nice as well.

[Gulkeeva]

I'm making a guess that these ships may land at those land docks placed around La Noscea. Could very well be another form of transportation for those, but there are no tracks or rails so I just assume it is aerial.

I have in the back of my brain a quote I read in either this thread or another which read that they wanted to make FFXIV what FFXI couldn't be and I go back to this unused zone in FFXI with a rail train in this Youtube video.

maybe, the thing looks odd, also it has a sort of trail behind it up close'ish
it has no visible moving parts other then that so... dunno what it is really can't be one the classic ffxi airships.

oh and the best hp drain like ability you can get is marauder bloodbath.

with blindside, raging strikes, ferocity on pug you can drain like 70-80hp off a blue conned mob (ones that give good exp still that is) doesn't seem sj gimped as it still gives 90% the damage done in hp

[Lucavi]

Broken legs = perma-gravity. Its funny watching an archer trying to hobble away.

[Chakra]

If you could teleport everywhere at any time without limitations they might had as well make this game an online RPG like PSO.

Which doesn't sound too bad to me, but I don't think it's their intention here.

I doubt it's the only form of teleporting we'll see though, I hope we can teleport from LL to ale/wineport someday for example.

Anima regens pretty slowly.. there has to be other forms of transportation and if there were very little, that would take away from exploration. I got anima happy the first few days in beta and now I'm lucky if I can stay above 4 anima. lol

[miokomioko]

So, is death common enough to pre-order a Special Edition for that god-awful looking Onion Helm? Or is that edition more for the 8 days earlier and the bonus discs of behind the scenes crap? Garlond Goggles look like a more useful item.

[sruon]

Anima regens pretty slowly.. there has to be other forms of transportation and if there were very little, that would take away from exploration. I got anima happy the first few days in beta and now I'm lucky if I can stay above 4 anima. lol

Teleports are AoE (up to 15 persons I'd think?), I think people fail to realize that.

Say you're exping/exploring with 2 friends, that's 300 animas right here or 75 ports for all 3 of you.

Of course the regeneration rate sucks for solo play.

[Destinye]

So, is death common enough to pre-order a Special Edition for that god-awful looking Onion Helm? Or is that edition more for the 8 days earlier and the bonus discs of behind the scenes crap? Garlond Goggles look like a more useful item.

Its something you get if you want. You either die a ton when you first start a MMO or you don't. Its for everything but a lot of people got it for the early access, the Amano artwork and book and behind the scenes stuff.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Currently LAN 18 and flies are slowing way down. Tried the cassiopeais and swarms down there but they're pretty aweful too. Anyone have a good camp for 18? Or am I stuck grinding my life away on flies?

[miokomioko]

Its something you get if you want. You either die a ton when you first start a MMO or you don't. Its for everything but a lot of people got it for the early access, the Amano artwork and book and behind the scenes stuff.

What a useless response.

[Hyan]

Anima regens pretty slowly.. there has to be other forms of transportation and if there were very little, that would take away from exploration. I got anima happy the first few days in beta and now I'm lucky if I can stay above 4 anima. lol

Chocobos would improve the situation a lot already.

Does it cost anima to teleport from the main camp to the smaller aetheryte gates?

[Chakra]

Chocobos would improve the situation a lot already.

Does it cost anima to teleport from the main camp to the smaller aetheryte gates?

Yes. It costs 1 anima.

[Lithiani]

Its something you get if you want. You either die a ton when you first start a MMO or you don't. Its for everything but a lot of people got it for the early access, the Amano artwork and book and behind the scenes stuff.

Personally I got it for the 8 days head start

What a useless response.

It's pretty accurate. The special edition comes with a bunch of stuff that appeals to a host of different markets. Some people will buy it for one thing, others a different thing.

I think the head start is the real seller, but then I'm that kind of player - I want to be in the first wave.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Chocobos would improve the situation a lot already.

Does it cost anima to teleport from the main camp to the smaller aetheryte gates?

One anima. They should just give a reduced cost if you teleport within the are of the aetheryte. I don't mind running to a camp to teleport to limsa for say 2 anima, but 4 anima is just way too costly.

[Katlan]

This is going to be the opposite of XI, where you had to explain to newbie tanks that moving left and right didn't do anything, isn't it? :D

dunno, on glad i could shield block mobs hitting me from behind, didn't seem right lol

One anima. They should just give a reduced cost if you teleport within the are of the aetheryte. I don't mind running to a camp to teleport to limsa for say 2 anima, but 4 anima is just way too costly.

It takes like 5 minutes to run basically anywhere in the alpha (outside getting to skull rock). So i don't see why ppl can't just run to places instead of burn anima every time.
need to get to LL from Bloodshore? run to Cedarwood and tele to bearded rock then run to LL.. takes less then 5 minutes. from Casioppa (sp) hollow to LL? tele from Casioppa Hallow to Bloodshore and run to Cedarwood and tele to Bearded rock.. takes 5 minutes.

I don't think ppl should QQ about anima costs and recharge when in this day and age they can't run 5 minutes from place to place w/o bitching. and by tele'ing im talking about using the aetherite free tele's

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

dunno, on glad i could shield block mobs hitting me from behind, didn't seem right lol



It takes like 5 minutes to run basically anywhere in the alpha (outside getting to skull rock). So i don't see why ppl can't just run to places instead of burn anima every time.
need to get to LL from Bloodshore? run to Cedarwood and tele to bearded rock then run to LL.. takes less then 5 minutes. from Casioppa (sp) hollow to LL? tele from Casioppa Hallow to Bloodshore and run to Cedarwood and tele to Bearded rock.. takes 5 minutes.

I don't think ppl should QQ about anima costs and recharge when in this day and age they can't run 5 minutes from place to place w/o bitching. and by tele'ing im talking about using the aetherite free tele's

I totally just teleport from cedarwood to bearded rock, but then I loose my homepoint status of bloodshore. I like always having that as a nice place to return two when I'm crafting or whatever in limsa and some friends want to do leves.

[miokomioko]

I asked whether or not death was commonplace enough in FFXIV (as it is right now) for Onion Helm to have significant usage. I think it's pretty obvious I'm not some beginner and am going to die frequently because I don't know how to play an RPG. I'm asking from the position of the general assumed skill level of the posters on BG forums.

"yes, maybe no" isn't an answer.

Since I wasn't chosen for the alpha/beta, I don't know if people dying is as it is in XI, or if it's as common and manageable as XII.

[Lucavi]

dunno, on glad i could shield block mobs hitting me from behind, didn't seem right lol



It takes like 5 minutes to run basically anywhere in the alpha (outside getting to skull rock). So i don't see why ppl can't just run to places instead of burn anima every time.
need to get to LL from Bloodshore? run to Cedarwood and tele to bearded rock then run to LL.. takes less then 5 minutes. from Casioppa (sp) hollow to LL? tele from Casioppa Hallow to Bloodshore and run to Cedarwood and tele to Bearded rock.. takes 5 minutes.

I don't think ppl should QQ about anima costs and recharge when in this day and age they can't run 5 minutes from place to place w/o bitching. and by tele'ing im talking about using the aetherite free tele's

What about going from LL to the hallow? Yes, you can LL >> BR >> CW, but you're still looking at a 5 minute run after that. Yes, its not much, but the biggest draw is being able to set your port far away, teleport to town, then teleport back far away without loosing your home point.

Everytime you touch a crystal, you set it as your homepoint, so the less crystals I can touch when going back and forth, the better. Its a poorly designed system if you're going to make the claim that everyone is just lazy and not wanting to walk.

Edit: Miko, death happens pretty often, at least on your first go round'. Death happens PLENTY often when you're fighting elementals or bombs.

[Chakra]

dunno, on glad i could shield block mobs hitting me from behind, didn't seem right lol



It takes like 5 minutes to run basically anywhere in the alpha (outside getting to skull rock). So i don't see why ppl can't just run to places instead of burn anima every time.
need to get to LL from Bloodshore? run to Cedarwood and tele to bearded rock then run to LL.. takes less then 5 minutes. from Casioppa (sp) hollow to LL? tele from Casioppa Hallow to Bloodshore and run to Cedarwood and tele to Bearded rock.. takes 5 minutes.

I don't think ppl should QQ about anima costs and recharge when in this day and age they can't run 5 minutes from place to place w/o bitching. and by tele'ing im talking about using the aetherite free tele's

There is no such thing as a free teleport unless you complete a guildleve. Also, I don't believe anyone was QQing about anima regen. The topic was more transportation methods so people can save anima to use when it is needed and to add incentive for exploration.

[Katlan]

There is no such thing as a free teleport unless you complete a guildleve. Also, I don't believe anyone was QQing about anima regen. The topic was more transportation methods so people can save anima to use when it is needed and to add incentive for exploration.

yes you can free tele.. From any main aetherite you can tele to the aetherite cracks (or w/e they called) as long as you have visited it once. You can only visit the lesser nodes w/in the zone / area of main crystal. From bearded rock I can go to Cedarwood or Mor Bay (sp). Or from cedarwood / Bay I can go to bearded rock.
From Bloodshore you can go to any of the aetherite cracks in that zone, and vice versa, ect..

[Gulkeeva]

What about going from LL to the hallow? Yes, you can LL >> BR >> CW, but you're still looking at a 5 minute run after that. Yes, its not much, but the biggest draw is being able to set your port far away, teleport to town, then teleport back far away without loosing your home point.

Everytime you touch a crystal, you set it as your homepoint, so the less crystals I can touch when going back and forth, the better. Its a poorly designed system if you're going to make the claim that everyone is just lazy and not wanting to walk.

Edit: Miko, death happens pretty often, at least on your first go round'. Death happens PLENTY often when you're fighting elementals or bombs.

elementals are evil... punch for 1-5 damage.. blast you for 40-60, and then the debuff makes that go up to like 70-80.. and then you got 3 of'em on a guildleve and your like /zomg rape