FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread V: No one told me beta would have problems in it

[Zubis]

what are you fighting to get that?

Just anything in those areas. I haven't experienced a drop in experience points at all, it's the skill points that's messing things up.

[Gwynplaine]

Kind of a small pet peeve, but I get a little annoyed by how widely some people have been using "Eorzia" to refer to FFXIV's world. I mean, imagine if everyone started out calling FFXI's world "Mindartia". I mean wtf. Like if FFXIclopedia were named "Mindartiapedia" instead. Get a clue.

[Hyan]

'Hydaelyn' is pretty damn bad though. I like Eorzea better, or Aldenard.

[Gokulo]

There's a difference though. Eorzea is being thrown left and right everywhere, while you only hear about Haydelyn (sp) once or twice.

[Celeras]

As a 13THM/15PHYS in Bloodshore, I'm getting like 250-450 class points per leve despite everything either being yellow/red and the camp being recommended for ~20. Pretty BS, I get more than that from soloing a single sheep.

How are you casters leveling, just relentless grinding near a crystal? The only decent way I've found to get skillups is to join a huge party doing leves, spam cure and do nothing else. Can at least get 1000-2000+ per leve that way.. but those parties seem to be few/far between.

[Kaiyoko]

Every 10 fights it seems. Its getting worse. I need to find something higher than 25 to properly test this. If it makes you feel better... Since I started using my level 25 shield I haven't seen surplus on it. lol

My surplus hit 25 like 30 minutes ago... but I'm positive I've seen that message multiple throughout this level.

That really makes me think that surplus is from having a low level weapon compared to your skill then. My Axe is still 16 rank can't find anyone that can make 2 parts to make a higher level one... What level is your sword?

My surplus rank recently got to 24 and matched my rank which I think increased the amount of skill I was able to gain before I would need to log to reset.

edit-

I'm still getting 600+ on Cedarwood/Cassiopeia monsters and I'm 28PUG/30PHY


30 is cap, yeah.

If that's 600 phys exp ok. But 600+ skill at 28? How are you not getting any surplus? What is your weapon's rank?

[Kurokikaze]

To all BG members on Emperor:

Trying to get people together to get some facerolling going. Do some Lv30 or 40 (if someone is 30) leves on 5 Star difficulty. If you interested PM me. ;o

My weapon is Rank 21.

[Cayos]

Has anyone seen any of the gear you can get from level 40 leves?

[Celeras]

That really makes me think that surplus is from having a low level weapon compared to your skill then. My Axe is still 16 rank can't find anyone that can make 2 parts to make a higher level one... What level is your sword?

Maybe. I got my first Surplus still when I dinged 13 whilst still using the starter wand. It ended up making me check and seeing it was broken, so I repaired... don't recall if I kept getting after that.

[Kaiyoko]

Maybe. I got my first Surplus still when I dinged 13 whilst still using the starter wand. It ended up making me check and seeing it was broken, so I repaired... don't recall if I kept getting after that.

It might not just be weapon rank. Multiple factors or something because I keep my weapons 50%+ and really does not seem to effect it.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Regarding yellowjackets and behest; I'm busy studying for a final so I figured I'd do a bit a research while studying. I've been sitting at the bloodshore camp waiting for the yellowjacket to spawn for the past three hours while studying, and he's pretty much pops the same time every hour(Right now xx:10-12). I'm guessing between each pop, he's popping at another camp. I think someone posted something like this before, but I'm just throwing it out there for anyone that missed it.

[Arximiro]

AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED! (40000)4,30303

Ever since last night I keep getting this shit constantly. Is anyone else getting this? Seems when it happens to me it happens to everyone I'm around on the server too. JW wtf is up with this shit, I can't even grind with the broken grinding system because of the broken server.

Oh Beta

[SilverBreeze]

How are you casters leveling, just relentless grinding near a crystal? The only decent way I've found to get skillups is to join a huge party doing leves, spam cure and do nothing else. Can at least get 1000-2000+ per leve that way.. but those parties seem to be few/far between.

Slowly and painfully. With 79 Piety I still only hand spells 10% of the time on my Thaumaturge. I just do it like this since my experiences with spell resists hasn't changed.

Attack Mob, Cast Slow, if slow hits, Dot it up with Bio/Dia/Poison and Dart/Damnation it to death. Easy peasy and gets me ~100 skill points for 40 MP.

or

Attack Mob, Cast Slow, if slow misses, immediately pop Punishing Barbs and Stygian Spikes and tank it with heals while your MP bar fills up. Slowly kill it with Darts while it kills itself on Barbs.

I really don't have any problems with mana anymore since level 16 Thauma (I also haven't had any problems leveling my Conjurer since getting Stygian, but Conj only gets 11 MP per hit on Stygian where Thauma gets 24...) but resists are still horrendous and it's very slow to level. Until I can reliably land spells on my Thauma I don't see it getting any faster. When I do land Slow/Dia/Bio/Poison though, holy shit it goes so fast.

So pretty much, 16 is happy land for Thaumaturge in terms of mana management, but it's still fail in terms of killing speed, at least for me.

Just my experiences as 16/21 Thaumaturge with 40 INT / 79 PIE. I still cannot reliably land a spell on a mob, no matter if it cons Blue or Red. It's all luck it seems.

[Katlan]

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Just my experiences as 16/21 Thaumaturge with 40 INT / 79 PIE. I still cannot reliably land a spell on a mob, no matter if it cons Blue or Red. It's all luck it seems.

Either they expect every class, until end game gear, to have a higher miss % then hit %.. or dex/piety havent been adjusted. I'm going w/ the later, because no way in hell should a lv1 melee be missing starter moles over so much w/50+ dex.

I wanted to try out glad w/lv 18 physical and reset points enough to have 50dex.. and was still missing shit like no tomorrow

[Celeras]

Did you read my post a few pages back about accuracy Silver?

Two key things, first.. the casting range. Casting at max range, your spells will 'fail' always. Either you're not supposed to be able to cast from that far, or it's just buggy, but you need to be closer. If you ever get a pack spread out and cast on a mob close to you you'll see how far the cones CAN go (ive hit mobs in the back and went woah, I hit that?). Really just try standing at about half the range of Phantom Dart.

And secondly: you will never hit flying mobs with anything, ever. Thaums are bugged and you can't hit squat if it's in the air. Whereas if you switch to a conj and use the THM abilities, they'll hit flying targets with ease. Test on Jellyfish or Bats in the starter area.

Since I've realized those things, I can land everything(since I don't cast on flying mobs anymore). 47int/47piety @ 15.

Also: damnation is such ass. Double the stamina of Dart, misses relentlessly, sometimes doubles the damage (sometimes the same). And I only notice mana back if it hits for over 40... and even then it's like 1. I think the most I've gotten back is 5 when I crit for 110. Only reason it's still even equipped for me is that it can hit as hard as scourge on weak stuff, and I only equip 1 dot to avoid bugging myself by killing with them.

[Soap]

I heard INT was broken int he beta. Currently has no effect, have you tried adding it into MND instead?

[Katlan]

Yeah I've realized distance plays a huge part in acc also, even for melee. Standing a bit of distance from the mob so your melee animation has room to do the <jump towards the mob and atk> animation VS being right in their face makes a huge diff. But I still think piety/dex isn't adjusted

[SilverBreeze]

Wow I missed that post, thanks Celeras. I was hitting okay when me and Gulkeeva were murdering Puks the other day, but I thought I was just getting lucky, that should help out a bit.

Well ignore what I said in my post then, but once you get 16 your MP problems should be slim to none between Damnation (when it actually hits, seems to be 5% of damage -> MP which is ass when it doesn't even hit triple digits most of the time) and Stygian Spikes. Until then just find a nice spot within 2-3 mins of a crystal and go for it.

[Sky Red]

It's pretty clear to me. They're giving sites like Zam and etc beta keys to give away.

we have a delectable surprise for you all tomorrow so make sure to pay a visit to FFXIV Core..

One can only hope since the germans are being slow on my invite /

[Purrrfect]

I heard INT was broken int he beta. Currently has no effect, have you tried adding it into MND instead?

I heard this was posted on the beta forums. Like 3rd hand info to me though, so ymmv.

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conclusion: INT Increases base dmg output for conjurer, when adding points to Ice it also increases dmg output when using Ice spells, however not as much as INT.


This time, the experiment consisted of 3 phases. For all 3 phases, I was Physical level 18 and Conjurer level 9. I did not level either during the experiment. I fought puk hatchlings all "green" difficulty located SE of Camp Skull Valley. Each phase I only cast the blizzard spell. Nothing else was used to damage the puks. Each phase consists of 50 casts.

Phase 1: "Control" base 15 int, 15 ice element.

"Normal" hits - 38/50
Lowest damage from normal hit - 70
Highest damage from normal hit - 105
Average damage from normal hit - 89.6

"Critical" hits - 9/50
Lowest damage from critical hit - 98
Highest damage from critical hit - 118
Average damage from critical hit - 108.8

"Partially Resist" hits - 3/50
Lowest damage from partial resist - 44
Highest damage from partial resist - 50
Average damage from partial resist - 47

"Full Resist" hits (0 damage done) - 1/50

Phase 2: "Elemental Stat Phase" base 15 int, 79 ice element (104 pts)

"Normal" hits - 41/50
Lowest damage from normal hit - 81
Increase over previous phase - 15.7%
Highest damage from normal hit - 108
Increase over previous phase - 2.9%
Average damage from normal hit - 98.9
Increase over previous phase - 10.4%

"Critical" hits - 4/50
Lowest damage from critical hit - 101
Increase over previous phase - 3.1%
Highest damage from critical hit - 123
Increase over previous phase - 4.2%
Average damage from critical hit - 112.3
Increase over previous phase - 3.2%

"Partially Resist" hits - 5/50
Lowest damage from partial resist - 52
Increase over previous phase - 18.2%
Highest damage from partial resist - 62
Increase over previous phase - 24.0%
Average damage from partial resist - 57.2
Increase over previous phase - 21.7%

"Full Resist" hits (0 damage done) - 0/50

Phase 3: "Int Stat Phase" base 79 int (104 pts), 79 ice element (104 pts)

"Normal" hits - 42/50
Lowest damage from normal hit - 111
Increase over previous phase - 37.0%
Highest damage from normal hit - 135
Increase over previous phase - 25.0%
Average damage from normal hit - 122.8
Increase over previous phase - 24.2%

"Critical" hits - 4/50
Lowest damage from critical hit - 131
Increase over previous phase - 29.7%
Highest damage from critical hit - 136
Increase over previous phase - 10.6%
Average damage from critical hit - 132.5
Increase over previous phase - 18.0%

"Partially Resist" hits - 3/50
Lowest damage from partial resist - 74
Increase over previous phase - 42.3%
Highest damage from partial resist - 89
Increase over previous phase - 43.5%
Average damage from partial resist - 82
Increase over previous phase - 43.4%

"Full Resist" hits (0 damage done) - 1/50