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  1. #1361
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    Quote Originally Posted by omegaB View Post
    ehhh damn it listening to people, this sounds potentially even more annoying,
    I'm not sure about the NPC thing and what the hell that even means, but I don't see a problem with the lock-on thing. Just one button less to press.

  2. #1362
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Grats on 30 Zubis.

    Stan: "So what are we gonna do now?"
    Cartman: "What are we gonna do?! We're gonna finally be able to play the game."
    Thanks and very true, just too bad they're deleting my character now, haha. I guess that's what I get for staying up late.

    Quote Originally Posted by mintyice View Post
    what did you grind on to hit that? ive been doing swarms and im only getting 100 a piece. I dont know if I want to have to kill 300 swarms just to level up to 26.
    Yes, see my post on the last page. I explain it more there.

    The last level took about 2½ hours in total grind time. Without the skill points bug and perhaps some more understanding of the surplus crap I'd cut that down with an hour or more.

  3. #1363
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    I'm not sure about the NPC thing and what the hell that even means, but I don't see a problem with the lock-on thing. Just one button less to press.
    I don't think you can talk to NPCs while in active mode, or at least some of them

  4. #1364
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    I'm not sure about the NPC thing and what the hell that even means, but I don't see a problem with the lock-on thing. Just one button less to press.
    i liked the lock on button just being for locking on, i also hope it doesnt toggle on and off based on you be locked. i suppose ill get used to it

  5. #1365
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    Quote Originally Posted by omegaB View Post
    i liked the lock on button just being for locking on, i also hope it doesnt toggle on and off based on you be locked. i suppose ill get used to it
    There was a ton of feedback about it.

    How much do you want to bet the people that complained it should auto swap from active to passive find a way to bitch about the new system too?

  6. #1366
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    I was in your group Soap O_O. Maybe it was the lvl difference but you held hate like a champ. I don't see how PUGs could tank as they take far too much damage and mobs successfully hit more than they should.

    Kind of sucks about the character wipe but at least next time I won't spend time leveling up every craft to 15. I'll probably only level goldsmithing/cook/alchemist and fisher next test if they're added. That and scout node locations. I'm eager to see if they fix the many things wrong with the game, especially UI lag.

  7. #1367
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshTS View Post
    Blah, was getting used to this 24 hour beta too, but yeah, I'll take the servers coming down for Phase 3.

    My question is, will there be a Phase 4?

    (Also thinking that Phase 3 kickoff will coincide with Gamescon on the 18th)
    I think you could be right since Gamescom is in Germany. Remember the German beta keys? It would seem these invites will be going out for phase 3, plus the keys hinted at on the English Twitter yesterday. We'll certainly get a lot of (public) info about phase 3 during Gamescom.

    Phase 4 is the open beta as someone mentioned and is uncertain to go ahead.

    Gotta lol at those who have spent the past week doing nothing but grind to the level cap only to have phase 2 end when they get there and reset their characters.

  8. #1368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Gotta lol at those who have spent the past week doing nothing but grind to the level cap only to have phase 2 end when they get there and reset their characters.
    Yes, that's hilarious.. however I think you misunderstand something. You definitely can do other things than just grind. It's fairly quick and easy to level so far into the game as long as you avoid the bugs. A level doesn't really take more than 1-2 hours which is definitely a improvement from FFXI.

  9. #1369
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    To be honest, it came at the best time.

    Most of us were starting to become bored and stop playing anyway.

  10. #1370
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    I just want to see Solo(surplus) and party EXP and Skill Ups fixed as well as the weapon durability issue.

  11. #1371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cureslime View Post
    I was in your group Soap O_O. Maybe it was the lvl difference but you held hate like a champ. I don't see how PUGs could tank as they take far too much damage and mobs successfully hit more than they should.

    Kind of sucks about the character wipe but at least next time I won't spend time leveling up every craft to 15. I'll probably only level goldsmithing/cook/alchemist and fisher next test if they're added. That and scout node locations. I'm eager to see if they fix the many things wrong with the game, especially UI lag.
    higher levle pugs its not that bad.

    My lv 23 pug vs a Lv24 (and he had about 16 points of def higher then me, and 24 elemental resistances from his gear) was taking about 20 extra damage per hit average and 30-50 elemental damage from the elementals.

    That and considering the lv30 ability is/was? some form of aggro transfer to the pug off someone else ability... it may be some form of tank... aka the "bear tank of ffxiv" or the MP sponge as we like to call it.. because it just won't die.. as long as you dump a crap load of MP to heal it >.>

    I have 467 HP at Lv 23, at the rate its going should "have" been around 530 HP by lv30

    That or it was a bug/some programmer error to give an ability like that, where if such an ability existed in ffxi, you could spike flail the group at will...! who needs to cure bomb, when you can just steal 100% the tanks threat at a press of a button >.>

  12. #1372
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    In Beta 3, we will be adding new classes
    mage classes i guess, since we lack of buffers

  13. #1373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    I have 467 HP at Lv 23, at the rate its going should "have" been around 530 HP by lv30
    I only have 490 health at 30. It went up by 8 that last one..

    Quote Originally Posted by supercoco View Post
    mage classes i guess, since we lack of buffers
    There won't be. We already know the classes that will be there for release and they'll just add some of the ones they left out, like Fisherman for example.

  14. #1374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubis View Post
    I only have 490 health at 30. It went up by 8 that last one..


    There won't be. We already know the classes that will be there for release and they'll just add some of the ones they left out, like Fisherman for example.
    actually between thaum and conjurer, got a lot of buffs, i think the next ine will prolly be archanist since they have a guild, most likely an advanced class in a few months

    as for new jobs now, id imagine its the ones anounced but not in game crafters and gathers

  15. #1375
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    Well, Core and ZAM are giving away beta keys, for NA accounts only.

    The deadline is August 11th, I guess the phase 3 will begin around then as well.

  16. #1376
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    Just got Aegis Boon and I have a few thoughts on it. I know that some people say it may not be worth it because of the amount of stamina it takes and the amount of HP it heals, But actually it would be very useful and effective VS tougher mobs in party situations. It is not very effective on weaker solo mobs.

    Aegis Boon takes 75% of your stamina bar to heal a portion of your HP when you block and last for about 15 seconds. Whats special compared to the other shield guard is that if you block an attack, it completely negates the damage no matter what and you recover a very large amount of HP.

    I tested this on a Salamander.

    The Salamander hits you for 278 points of damage.
    You use Aegis Boon. You gain the effect of Aegis Boon.
    The salamanders attack heals you for 102 HP. <-----Shield block
    The salamanders attack heals you for 113 HP. <-----Shield block
    You are no longer under the effect of Aegis Boon.
    You use Punishing Barbs. You gain the effect of Punishing Barbs.
    The salamanders attack hits you for 291 points of damage.
    Counter! You hit the Salamander for 260p points of damage.
    You ready your shield.
    You partially block the Salamanders attack, taking 132 point of damage. <---Block without Aegis Boon
    Counter!You hit the salamander for 232 points of damage.
    Your shield arm falls.
    The Salamanders attack hits you for 282 points of damage.
    Counter!You hit the Salamander for 260 points of damage..
    The Salamander defeats you.

    Pretty much negates 2 attacks and recovers 100+ HP each time.

    Side note: THM Punishing Barbs is OP. Notice how I did 752(20% of its HP) damage as I was dying. I think a whole party can equip Punishing Barbs and and just sacrifice themselves one buy one and take down an IT+++ mob in seconds.

  17. #1377
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Well, Core and ZAM are giving away beta keys, for NA accounts only.

    The deadline is August 11th, I guess the phase 3 will begin around then as well.
    It makes me wonder what they have planned for EU keys, if anything.

  18. #1378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    It makes me wonder what they have planned for EU keys, if anything.
    We already know several German sites are giving away keys....

    Since they fucked up and announced it too early.

  19. #1379
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercoco View Post
    In Beta 3, we will be adding new classes
    mage classes i guess, since we lack of buffers
    Fishing and Cooking >.>

  20. #1380
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    We already know several German sites are giving away keys....

    Since they fucked up and announced it too early.
    It certainly looks like they fucked up now.
    But that just covers German, there's also the French version and English EU accounts. I'm EU but still applied for the Core and ZAM keys.

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