Just finished getting a degree? Too bad, you're screwed!

[Shazaam]

Go into sales bitches, boatloads of cash even at entrylevel

DO IT! A NIGERIAN PRINCE IS WAITING FOR YOUR CALL!

(A pyramid scheme is just a business plan based on one of the oldest existing architectural structures)




..... Good luck with your 'career'. Hopefully you have teeth that are really straight and shiny.

[Julian]

In terms of job finding, there's plenty of opportunities. A lot of start-up companies search for programmers utilizing new languages such as ruby. Hell, I was offered an internship for $45/hr 30 hrs a week with a small company, and I've only spent 8 weeks learning ruby on rails with agile development. (which is what the company uses for their products)

I hate you. I love Ruby, but none of the job stuff I ever see is asking for ruby experience.

Though to be fair, I've never really looked, been too busy blazing through school. No fucking way I can do a job and take 16~18 credit hours at the same time. Starting my 3rd year now, probably going to look into an internship sometime this year or during the Summer.

[five]

I hate you. I love Ruby, but none of the job stuff I ever see is asking for ruby experience.

Though to be fair, I've never really looked, been too busy blazing through school. No fucking way I can do a job and take 16~18 credit hours at the same time. Starting my 3rd year now, probably going to look into an internship sometime this year or during the Summer.

Well, I found the company by mistake actually. I was doing some ruby homework and stumbled upon this company that develops lots of gems and contributes to the ruby community. There are a lot of companies that are completely based in ruby, just have to find the right ones. It also depends on where you live, as most of the COSI community is split between california and boston

[Mojo]

I never understood why people took online courses. A huge portion of college is the networking, you're cutting yourself short by taking a course online. I'd reserve them for the random shit classes you have to take for gen eds.

[BerenTebogo]

I never understood why people took online courses. A huge portion of college is the networking, you're cutting yourself short by taking a course online. I'd reserve them for the random shit classes you have to take for gen eds.

I tried it once and just kept forgetting to do shit / didn't take it seriously. Gotta be self-motivating with those types of things.

Would never consider taking one again.

[Ayn]

I did a half online, half face-to-face class once. It was actually a great experience. The teacher, however, was awesome, and there was a since of connectivity. One week we met in person, the next week was online assignments/discussion questions/etc.

Online can work, but only when done right. . . and a lot of people do it oh so wrong.

[bigrougabagel]

I never understood why people took online courses. A huge portion of college is the networking, you're cutting yourself short by taking a course online. I'd reserve them for the random shit classes you have to take for gen eds.

Very true. Dont take any core classes online. If you need to fill in some bs classes for gen ed reqs, go for it. The classes are generally pretty easy and can be interesting, depending on what you take. I had a comparative religion course with a strong component being message board discussions of the current material, which was mostly amusing, but occasionally very informative. Online courses can also save a good bit of time especially if it's an "at your own pace" type of format.

[Bluefrostie]

I did a half online, half face-to-face class once. It was actually a great experience. The teacher, however, was awesome, and there was a since of connectivity. One week we met in person, the next week was online assignments/discussion questions/etc.

Online can work, but only when done right. . . and a lot of people do it oh so wrong.

I did this with my algebra class. They never said anything about it being half online and half in class in the course catalog; only a week before my class started did I get any kind of notice. They didn't offer a twice-a-week algebra course. I didn't know what the hell was going on half the time because I wasn't able to ask my professor questions, so I felt lost.

[Mayareira]

Hybrid classes (half online, half in class) can really be awesome as long as the professor is experienced and the school does it right.

I've only taken one fully online class so far and...I regret it. A LOT. I haven't learn anything other than what the textbook has offered even though I did my best to get something out of it.

Never again.

[Meresgi]

Hybrid classes (half online, half in class) can really be awesome as long as the professor is experienced and the school does it right.
Ive only taken one fully online class so far and...I regret it. A LOT. I haven't learn anything other than what the textbook has offered even though I did my best to get something out of it.
Never again.

What course did you take fully online? I have a much different view then everyone else probably because i'm taking media art and animation classes online. 80% of that shit is either done on my computer or right by my computer in my sketch pad. So it's a lot easier to have my programs open and the browser for my class open and tab between them, and a few tutorials online to do classwork. Sure you can do that in a classroom setting, but I always found myself forgetting some of the things taught between leaving 1 class to go to 4 more during the day, traveling home, working, then finally sitting at my computer.

I agree though that courses like Math, Chemistry, anything science and a lot of other shit should not be taught online. A lot of stuff requires hands on IN CLASSROOM experience and not just watching a youtube video of someone else doing it.

[ziegh]

So, finding this thread interesting I decided to post since I'm somewhat lost at the moment. Currently living in Montreal, moved out here almost 5 months ago, I speak so-so French but not really the local variety and was hired for a sales job in which all my clients speak French only and I was given 2 months to get used to the local french. I come from a 3rd world country and my degree is Mexican (not my country of origin) and have background in Caterpillar machinery, so .... I'm in a country by myself where I know only one person (he's local) and spent 4 months knocking doors trying to get a job till I actually signed this. I got "lucky" I guess because I was hired for a couple of reasons: One being my CAT background (I work again for a CAT dealership) and the other being that they only had an egyptian and me as prospects for this position. So now, I have to learn to speak a language in two months, and do a sales job which I'm honestly not the right person for it >.> Yay, me?

[Julian]

Well, I found the company by mistake actually. I was doing some ruby homework and stumbled upon this company that develops lots of gems and contributes to the ruby community. There are a lot of companies that are completely based in ruby, just have to find the right ones. It also depends on where you live, as most of the COSI community is split between california and boston

Ruby homework? Again, I envy you.

And yeah, I know tons of people out there use ruby. It's just, well, I haven't really actively tried to look for a job or internship yet. I just read the forward e-mails that my school sends to us, mostly for the lulz, because they all ask for 500+ years of experience on tons of random shit, but never ruby. :D Really not expecting to find anything from those e-mails, like I said, mostly read them for the lulz.

I'll eventually start researching, I guess. I really don't think I want to program as a career, but if I end up doing so, I would definitely want to do it in Ruby, if at all possible.

[sekaran]

Gotta feel for recent graduates. The job market where I am is pretty depressing. We have a part time file clerk position open at the firm I work at.. Paralegals with 20+ years experience, attorneys, recent law school graduates applying.. all for ~$12/hr.

I'm still paying off my student loan debts.. but I'm happy I graduated when I did. 3 more years are my current rate cause I want to get this debt out of the way.

[Daydreamer]

Gotta feel for recent graduates. The job market where I am is pretty depressing. We have a part time file clerk position open at the firm I work at.. Paralegals with 20+ years experience, attorneys, recent law school graduates applying.. all for ~$12/hr.

I'm still paying off my student loan debts.. but I'm happy I graduated when I did. 3 more years are my current rate cause I want to get this debt out of the way.

The worst part is that after a few years at such crappy pay you'll start to think that something like 12$ an hour is good.

[Meresgi]

The worst part is that after a few years at such crappy pay you'll start to think that something like 12$ an hour is good.

Shit man, i'm getting an 8.50$/hr job and I think that's good...well better then the 0$ I was making while trying to find a job for 8months.

[five]

Ruby homework? Again, I envy you.

And yeah, I know tons of people out there use ruby. It's just, well, I haven't really actively tried to look for a job or internship yet. I just read the forward e-mails that my school sends to us, mostly for the lulz, because they all ask for 500+ years of experience on tons of random shit, but never ruby. :D Really not expecting to find anything from those e-mails, like I said, mostly read them for the lulz.

I'll eventually start researching, I guess. I really don't think I want to program as a career, but if I end up doing so, I would definitely want to do it in Ruby, if at all possible.

haha yeah I love ruby. We had to re-write one of our ruby codes in java, and what I did in about 30 lines of ruby translated to roughly 140 in java lol. ruby is just so elegant, but the only problem is the compilation time which is slightly worse than java

[miokomioko]

Overqualification is such an issue for me now. I'm overqualified for every open position in my field because people are only interested in hiring students who will work for free.

[Zhais]

haha yeah I love ruby. We had to re-write one of our ruby codes in java, and what I did in about 30 lines of ruby translated to roughly 140 in java lol. ruby is just so elegant, but the only problem is the compilation time which is slightly worse than java

I may have to mess around with ruby someday, see what it's all about.

I don't remember why, but I think I looked at it once and my first impressions were kinda meh.

[Ferion]

Yeah I'm kind of curious about what all the hype is about for Ruby. I kind of have mixed feelings about programming. I taught myself some C++ that I actually really enjoyed learning, but I took a class that used Java that I absolutely hated everything about the language. I'm curious as to how applicable Python is? I really like the language but don't know too many people who use it.

[Corrderio]

Shit man, i'm getting an 8.50$/hr job and I think that's good...well better then the 0$ I was making while trying to find a job for 8months.

This. I'd work under min. wage if it netted me a job.