Abyssea NM Weaknesses

[Obsidian]

Yes, that's Grellow.

[Lordesequiel]

Ok well on Megamaw Mickey grellow !! gave it some sort of silence effect.

[carmancilla]

Dozing Dorian:

Red!!: Sunburst Atma drop (from a jp group doing before us)
Red!!: Tachi: Koki Atma drop

Atma stacks with the NPC HP buffs too.

[cdgreg]

Have any T1 spells triggered a !!? Or is it basically like an element Blizzard 1, 2, 3,4 will all trigger on a mob

[Onorgul]

I haven't heard of any specific instances of T1 triggering a !!, but there are plenty of reports of people getting !! from, say, Thunder III but not Thunder IV or Thunder II. Isn't that fun, knowing that you have to go through your entire spell list?

[cdgreg]

I haven't heard of any specific instances of T1 triggering a !!, but there are plenty of reports of people getting !! from, say, Thunder III but not Thunder IV or Thunder II. Isn't that fun, knowing that you have to go through your entire spell list?

ya FML, was hoping it was an entire element where I could just spam the T1s lol. Why would it be that easy?

[Diomer]

Seraph Blade triggered Red !! on Eve, Atma dropped with junk drops.

[Arthars]

EVE's ATMA IS NOT JUNK DROP!

[Anomander]

Proc'd a yellow !!! today on Mitcalwhateverthefuck with dispel. Noticed it had 3 !!!'s rather than the 2 that I have seen in a lot of the so called "grellow" pics. No real noticeable effect.

[Sekundes]

I don't recall seeing a !!! in the dats, do you have a ss or could it have been a mistake?

[Zadimortis]

ya FML, was hoping it was an entire element where I could just spam the T1s lol. Why would it be that easy?

I got both Blizzard III and IV to proc grellow !!'s multiple times in the same fight against Chukwa.

[Alarial]

EVE's ATMA IS NOT JUNK DROP!

Ha ya, 200 strength in my Sam WS set was pretty sweet. The added regain/DA is just icing on the cake.

[Khiinroye]

Red lotus blade--red !! on Briareus and Ruminator. Atma dropped on Briareus, and...

Atma dropped only to the mule who popped Ruminator and was dropped from ally for someone.

[Not Kuno]

Was he solo when he popped it?

[Rocl]

Well it seems to me that the popper's alliance/party gets the Atma then, and since you removed him from the alliance, your alliance didn't get.

Much like I'd imagine if you had someone pop, let's say, Adamstor and dropped them, I'd imagine the popper would get the key item, and not someone in the alliance who killed.

That's probably a shitty example.

[michaeldue]

Just tried like a dozen different Elemental WSs on Dozing Dorian.

Including those mentioned here earlier = Tachi: Koki and Sunburst...

We had melee BLM,THF,MNK,SAM cycle through all elemental WSs on 4 different pops and nada... no !!s and no atma....

damn annoying ;;

[Not Kuno]

Just tried like a dozen different Elemental WSs on Dozing Dorian.

Including those mentioned here earlier = Tachi: Koki and Sunburst...

We had melee BLM,THF,MNK,SAM cycle through all elemental WSs on 4 different pops and nada... no !!s and no atma....

damn annoying ;;

Despite all the success stories in this thread, we've been doing abyssea 2x a week since it came out, used pretty much every ws on every NM we've done and have yet to get an atma. On mega bosses I pull out the staff and even garland of bliss or w/e and still no luck. Random shit is random.

[Onorgul]

Random shit is shit.

Corrected that. Let's not encourage SE by suggesting that we accept "random shit" as appropriate game mechanics.

[michaeldue]

Just tried like a dozen different Elemental WSs on Dozing Dorian.

Including those mentioned here earlier = Tachi: Koki and Sunburst...

We had melee BLM,THF,MNK,SAM cycle through all elemental WSs on 4 different pops and nada... no !!s and no atma....

damn annoying ;;

Ok went again today and what a success story!

We had RNG,MNK,SAM,THF,WAR,BLM,RDM,WHM,SMN,PLD and whatnot - 11 people total.

PLD and me SAM had stocked up on all types of weapons we could wield from octave club to pole, sword, polearm etc.

We ended up going 1/1 on Atma on Dozing Dorian and Lungarhoo afterwards!

In both cases it was the PLD that triggered the red !! on both NMs with club elemental skill, im not sure which one cause i had chat filthers on,
- but it was the same club elemental ws that was used by the PLD on these 2 different NMs and gave the red !! and Atma to everyone upon kill.

Both NMs was killed within 15 minutes of each other and as I said with the same Club WS to trigger red !!, so now im wondering:
Could whatever Elemental WS that is needed to trigger the !! be in correspondance to a particular elemental day or moon phase? And not be NM specific whatsoever?

Just speculating since im happy now :D I got my Atma but trying to help others

I think its safe to say that its already been established that whatever elemental ws needed to trigger !! is not NM specific, since earlier reports of WSs used to trigger !! on Dozing Dorian never worked on earlier runs for us.

[Ocara]

Both NMs was killed within 15 minutes of each other and as I said with the same Club WS to trigger red !!, so now im wondering:
Could whatever Elemental WS that is needed to trigger the !! be in correspondance to a particular elemental day or moon phase? And not be NM specific whatsoever?

Many people including myself have fought nms back to back in less time than that and had the same skill not trigger a !! on two pops (easier when you're spamming the same pop NM). Seems to be random shit, as was mentioned before.