Abyssea NM Weaknesses

[Massimo]

Was 1 alliance, but we put members in that were not in previous fights to get the Atma (seems abyssea has many people playing again, so we leave people outside maw).

There were no rotations of players during the fights, only happened before the fight started so everyone could get the Atma. The only difference was the person that proc'd the Atma was dead when the mob died.

That's interesting. If you use Logger, could you double-check and see if Jinpu was used more than once by anyone?

[Kilik]

I was the only SAM last night. Only used Jinpu once per fight. I can check log after work but im sure I only used it once.

[vagus]

Use Sanguine WS on monkey in Vunkerl Inlet. Got 6 paper. All freelot. Fuckin monkey.

[Yugl]

I don't know and don't care to check whether this has been mentioned, but I've noticed that the mob's !! can change without the mob being defeated. While duoing the corse NM at Tahrongi, I was using Fire III since it produced similar damage to Thunder III, but without wasting excess MP. During the fight, I zoned out and returned while my friend kited the NM around the rock. When I returned, my first and subsequent Fire IIIs triggered a !!. After wiping at 50%, I decided it would be easier to HP and solo the NM instead of duoing. I soloed the NM until 25% and continued to utilize Fire III as my primary nuke (Note that in my previous attempt, I changed to Thunder III after triggering the III), but did not trigger a !! the entire fight. This suggests that the !! changed when I zoned in and when the NM went unclaimed.

[FailureMidgard]

Atma from Bukhis is HP:Superior, Crit Hit Dmg+: Minor, Enmity: Minor i think. Im at work so I cant check it atm. Only part im not sure of is the crit part. Its something to do with crit hits. I'll confirm it later.

I have a question for people who have triggered Red !! once on a Atma dropping mob and not gotten Atma. Was the person who triggered Red !! dead when the mob died? I ask because up until one of our Bukhis fights last night, we had been 100% on getting Atma when triggering Red !! once. On one fight last night I triggered it with Jinpu, but I died near the end of the fight. We didn't rush to get me raised since I got Atma on a previous fight, but the LS members we subbed in for that fight didn't get Atma. Anyone ever experience this? Keep in mind I'm only talking about situations where Red !! is triggered once since abusing a weakness is said to diminish its effects.

Well, SE hates us, and this atma is only +20% HP atma (Dorian is +30%) even though it is definitely listed as Superior and every other Superior > Major...they do stack additively, fwiw.

[Taint]

Anyone notice !! effects wearing off? Our PLD triggered a Grellow !! on CC from his first (and only) flash. But we only got 3 balance items 2a+1b.

[FailureMidgard]

Anyone notice !! effects wearing off? Our PLD triggered a Grellow !! on CC from his first (and only) flash. But we only got 3 balance items 2a+1b.

3 is a grellow proc. 1-2 is a no proc.

[Eliane]

Gieremund, Grellow !! procced with Thunder III and Dark Threnody (two seperate occasions of course).

Only 2 seal drops on each :/

[Dimmauk]

I have not read through the entire thread, I apologize if these facts are already known.

Was soloing Whiro, he went unclaimed several times during my solo, after going yellow one time, a spell I had used before (On Bluemage) triggered the grellow !!. It was Magnemite Cloud.It did not trigger it before, and did not trigger again after going unclaimed.

So the !! requirements are apparently indeed triggered when claim, not on pop, and can change. Blue Mage spells are also able to trigger !!

Triggered Blue !! when a Blue mage used Vorpal Blade on Whiro.

[Byrthnoth]

Jpn I talked to said he got 50 dex 30% crit one, but didnt mention where.

This looks like Atma of the Razed Ruin. I'd bet it drops off Ironclad Observer or Pulverizer. Definitely want.

Edit: I'm hearing through the JP grapevine that it's Pulverizer. Also, I warn people to temper their enthusiasm about that "30% Crit" stat.

[Jeryhn]

Briareus
Tachi: Jinpu triggered Red !! on Lightningday.
Received atma, hachimaki, cuisses, helm. No sash.

Also, Blizzard 4 triggered grellow !! on two different Adamastors, both popped on Iceday.
Didn't seem to help key item drop rate (was like 1/4 on each gigas), but nothing else seemed to trigger weaknesses.

[Taint]

This looks like Atma of the Razed Ruin. I'd bet it drops off Ironclad Observer or Pulverizer. Definitely want.

Edit: I'm hearing through the JP grapevine that it's Pulverizer. Also, I warn people to temper their enthusiasm about that "30% Crit" stat.

Definitely Pulverizer, we are having 0 luck getting a Red !! to proc.

[wop]

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That atma is crazy. Procced red !! 3/3 but only got SCH and SAM items for all 3 pops.

Any idea what ELSE it drops?

[Xerlic]

Grellow off of Bliz 4 on Cirein-croin. Dropped 2 lanterns, 2 jewels, 1 stone and sword.

[ronin sparthos]

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That atma is crazy. Procced red !! 3/3 but only got SCH and SAM items for all 3 pops.

Any idea what ELSE it drops?

Wiki is saying Bustle Dirs - the haste7 pants for WAR/SAM.

[Taint]

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That atma is crazy. Procced red !! 3/3 but only got SCH and SAM items for all 3 pops.

Any idea what ELSE it drops?

You'll want to proc blue for drops.

[Hanyoko]

^
That atma is crazy. Procced red !! 3/3 but only got SCH and SAM items for all 3 pops.

Any idea what ELSE it drops?

Since the mob has multiple forms; is getting red !! to proc on the first form enough for atma or do you have to reapply it when it changes?

[Eanae]

We ended up going through about 9 head phases last night (lol) because we spent so much time trying to get the !! to proc, and it wouldn't even after resetting it. We did find out the head and the body seem to have separate rage timers, and the body is not to be fucked with when raged. 800+ melee hits, aoe's for upwards of 2k+. We reset the head and let it go idle, but the body was STILL RAGED. We ended up giving up, Excellence tried to zerg it and got wrecked fast. Definitely a mob not to be fucked with come rage time.

[Scrooge]

Since the mob has multiple forms; is getting red !! to proc on the first form enough for atma or do you have to reapply it when it changes?

Went 1/1 on Atma when we proc'ed red in the first form (about 20 seconds into the fight). Did not ever reapply it.

For what it's worth, we had it go into head mode only once. When it reformed, and we took him down, it died and stayed dead. One of the more entertaining fights I've had in very long time.

[wop]

You'll want to proc blue for drops.

I know.. just saying.

The last drop wasn't updated on wiki till today.