Abyssea NM Weaknesses

[Shenrien]

yeah.. :/ 0/8 so far, first time I figured I'd aim for blue !!

[Deader2818]

Oh weird, went 1/1 on it and with our luck on brooder, I figured it was a high drop rate. G/L!

[Tsuko_Asura]

Will blow whoever figured this shit out

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...023_035832.jpg

[Alistrianna]

Just fought Fistule, pulled on Darksday before 22:00, initial Flash staggered mob, shortly after Tachi Gekko staggered it too. Checked moon phase on pull and it was Last Quarter Moon.

[|Heretic|]

Fit just nicely into the blue !! theory.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g7...ore/marvin.png

[Vlorsutes]

No SS, but Blue !! on Chhir-Batti (Djinn NM in Vunkerl) with Tachi: Kasha at 21:52

[Fievel]

Dozing Dorian - Red !! - Windsday 4:11 - 21%(Waning Crescent) - Sunburst

[NynJa]

Blue is definitely no guarantee on the rarer item. Procced blue on Sobek, didnt get epic Geriskogul lance, as well as one on Amhuluk and didnt get Fake Guttler lots of disappointed people

[aspekt]

Blue is definitely no guarantee on the rarer item. Procced blue on Sobek, didnt get epic Geriskogul lance, as well as one on Amhuluk and didnt get Fake Guttler lots of disappointed people

Agree. Proc red and blue on chakwa. Atma/key drop, but no neck.

[Byrthnoth]

I suspect it ups the drop rate to around 50% from the previous ~10%. Obviously still worth doing if you can.

[Kirschy]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4714/rfblue.png

Confirming Raging Fists, even though it was already on a few of the lists~

[Zubuis]

Was wondering, has anyone got a yellow or blue !!, when the mob is frozen from red !! proc?

[Massimo]

No, you can't.

[TehKerm]

I just ignored it. Like the other guy think shadowstich was elemental based. You could've at least look up on wiki.

And as for the red !! I wasn't able to proc on abyssal cluster. I did 11/13 of the ws. And I know I did mine right(w/ss) I gotta recheck log for the staff. I hope he messed up, cuz we haven't fail on red proc yet til now.

Pretty easy to misrepresent shadowstitch considering when you pull up the ws list from the menu its labeled ICE element btw. Not ganna make a big deal about it, just throwing it out there, people too quick to crucify you for common mistake lol.

Anyway it may be in here already but if say you claim the mob during the blunt phase and the time rolls around to the next will the WS to trigger blue continue to be blunt or does it change?

[Massimo]

It's time of claim.

[Clave]

Pretty easy to misrepresent shadowstitch considering when you pull up the ws list from the menu its labeled ICE element btw. Not ganna make a big deal about it, just throwing it out there, people too quick to crucify you for common mistake lol.

It's really not a common mistake. Are you going to say Viper Bite is water elemental, or Yukikaze is Dark elemental, or that Gekko is Wind elemental? S-E's color coding for WS is very easy to figure out. If the WS is physical but can inflict an enfeeble, it will be color coded to match the element of the enfeeble. Shadowstitch binds. Bind is ice-based.

@ second question: Weaknesses are determined upon pop/claim. They reset only if the monster goes idle. Idle =/= unclaimed.

[Foldypaws]

Idle =/= unclaimed.

Technically, idle is a subset of unclaimed. (which I'm sure you know, but as a physicist and a pedant, I have to comment on improper use of =/= >_>)

[TehKerm]

I just ignored it. Like the other guy think shadowstich was elemental based. You could've at least look up on wiki.

And as for the red !! I wasn't able to proc on abyssal cluster. I did 11/13 of the ws. And I know I did mine right(w/ss) I gotta recheck log for the staff. I hope he messed up, cuz we haven't fail on red proc yet til now.

It's really not a common mistake. Are you going to say Viper Bite is water elemental, or Yukikaze is Dark elemental, or that Gekko is Wind elemental? S-E's color coding for WS is very easy to figure out. If the WS is physical but can inflict an enfeeble, it will be color coded to match the element of the enfeeble. Shadowstitch binds. Bind is ice-based.

@ second question: Weaknesses are determined upon pop/claim. They reset only if the monster goes idle. Idle =/= unclaimed.

you got a point, my bad.

And thanks for the info, i was unsure if it stuck the weakness at the time of claim. Tyvm

[Dakana]

Something I saw in another thread and wanted to confirm here. They said that you can proc !!s while a monster has been stunned in a non-animation state. So for the 3 major cases

Attempting to proc a !! while stunned from a Red !! will not work
Attempting to proc !! while the monster is stunned using a TP move/Casting will not work
Attempting to proc !! on a stunned monster that was only auto attacking (sans iron giant attacks) WILL work


Let me know if i'm insane at all

[Fievel]

Something I saw in another thread and wanted to confirm here. They said that you can proc !!s while a monster has been stunned in a non-animation state. So for the 3 major cases

Attempting to proc a !! while stunned from a Red !! will not work
Attempting to proc !! while the monster is stunned using a TP move/Casting will not work
Attempting to proc !! on a stunned monster that was only auto attacking (sans iron giant attacks) WILL work


Let me know if i'm insane at all

This is correct