Abyssea NM Weaknesses

[NynJa]

I just cant help but think SE made the !!'s act like skillchain animations >.>

[Dimmauk]

Mictlantecuhtli
Seraph Blade (PLD) - Red !!

Terrorized him, PLD also claimed.

Mictlantecuhtli
Fire III (Green !!), puller = RDM

Did yall get the Store TP neck to drop? I'm 0/3 so far.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I just cant help but think SE made the !!'s act like skillchain animations >.>

Oh, I'm sure of it. I'm positive I didn't blink any of them out, though.

[Jeryhn]

Kukulcan
Blizzard 4 = Green/Yellow !!
Was iceday, full moon.
No atma, but got both Anguinus Belt and Archery Hachimaki.

[Sehrahin]

Elemental Weapon skills state plainly "Deals _____ elemental damage blah blah blah..." If it doesn't say that in the description it's not elemental no mater how elemental it looks.

Infernal Scythe says "Deals Darkness elemental damage, damage varies with TP." Or something.

Sanguine Blade: Drains target's HP. Amount drained varies with TP.

Gives amber light.

[urat]

Magical ws != elemental ws thats the issue with you people XD

[Sehrahin]

"Spiritual" damage like Spirits within and atonement count towards ruby light so prolly can't get red weakness trigger with them. Guessing it's just as simple as the WSs that give amber = red weakness, meree ruby ws = blue, magic azure = green/yellow/whateverthirdis.

[Clave]

Has anyone ever been able to !! Akash/Bhumi/Pavan?

I'm 0/20ish on Bhumi's abyssite and although it's probably just bad luck Ive been trying to !! it to see if that helps, and I've been unable to in any of my attempts. They con Impossible to Gauge so I thought they would have weaknesses, but then again they are jokes to fight and can be solo'd by practically any job easily.

[urat]

I do believe I read in the main thread way back in the early pages of a few peopling !ing bhumi, would need to sift through a bit though =/

[Zubuis]

Just wondering if anyone has gotten !! off of Lacovie (or any of the mega bosses in the zones). So far 0/3 on Goading Belt. Just wondering if its a low drop rate or if we should be trying to find a weakness.

[Neosutra]

Just wondering if anyone has gotten !! off of Lacovie (or any of the mega bosses in the zones). So far 0/3 on Goading Belt. Just wondering if its a low drop rate or if we should be trying to find a weakness.

Got red !! last night twice from elemental WSs (Seraph blade and something else) on Lacovie and no belt or atma for us either .

[Arthars]

lugahoo

tachi: jinpu

winds day

proc-ed !!, red i think idk, it cause lugahoo to terror

proceed to kill and dropped atma


according to these JPs that been farming atma's they say that:
1. elemental WS produce the !! (red?) that drops atma
2. proc it once for highest drop rate. doing 2 times or 3rd times screws the drop % or even lose the !! effect after
3. not all mobs that pop in the same day produce same result. Group i went today did the exact same elemental WS on lugarhoo but jinpu only proced on the 3rd lugahoo. All popped on same day, so yea, random weakness for every NM is random.

how they did it:
1. everyone sj dnc or /nin for cure and survivability (yup even whm with club skill or staff skill lol)
2. have all weapon types in alliance
3. everyone repeat 1 elemental WS 2-3 times......gain TP on normal mobs, while NM pounding on people lol thats why get DNC or NIN sjs
4. use weak weapon, single wield even if your /nin
5. once u cycle through all ws 2-3 times, report your weapon so that your weapon type is out......go help cure lol
6. mass chaos
7. ???
8. profit! atma is all it matters!

[Azulsky]

Raskovnik: Triggered Blue !! with SkullBreaker on Lightsday before 12:00 game time, And triggered Yellow !! with Aspir, don't remember what day/time it was.

[Atoreis]

lugahoo

tachi: jinpu

winds day

proc-ed !!, red i think idk, it cause lugahoo to terror

proceed to kill and dropped atma


according to these JPs that been farming atma's they say that:
1. elemental WS produce the !! (red?) that drops atma
2. proc it once for highest drop rate. doing 2 times or 3rd times screws the drop % or even lose the !! effect after
3. not all mobs that pop in the same day produce same result. Group i went today did the exact same elemental WS on lugarhoo but jinpu only proced on the 3rd lugahoo. All popped on same day, so yea, random weakness for every NM is random.

how they did it:
1. everyone sj dnc or /nin for cure and survivability (yup even whm with club skill or staff skill lol)
2. have all weapon types in alliance
3. everyone repeat 1 elemental WS 2-3 times......gain TP on normal mobs, while NM pounding on people lol thats why get DNC or NIN sjs
4. use weak weapon, single wield even if your /nin
5. once u cycle through all ws 2-3 times, report your weapon so that your weapon type is out......go help cure lol
6. mass chaos
7. ???
8. profit! atma is all it matters!

We tried on Khalmari to use every elemental Ws we had. I read this JPS about best is to make !! red once for best drop rate of atma. So finally jinpu triggered red !! and I said to stop more tries and... atma dropped.

[Enygma55]

Raskovnik: Triggered Blue !! with SkullBreaker on Lightsday before 12:00 game time, And triggered Yellow !! with Aspir, don't remember what day/time it was.

Was this both in the same fight ? I havent seen anyone say anything about proc'ing 2 different colors in the same fight.

It would go against my personal theory that NMs only hold 1 weakness at any given time.

Sounds like 2 seperate occasion judging from not knowing the day/time of your aspir trigger.

[zagex]

Megantereon, Lightsday, Thunder3, yellow-green !!, dropped nothing

[Eliane]

Lachrymater - Blue !! with Gekko. No drop.

Nothing different in behaviour either.

[NynJa]

I hope this isnt a stretch, but it seems to be recurring way to often to be coincidental:

Kukulcan
Blizzard 4 = Green/Yellow !!
Was iceday, full moon.

Megantereon, Lightsday, Thunder3, yellow-green !!, dropped nothing

Could have been claimed on Thundersday >.>

lugahoo
tachi: jinpu
winds day

Blue !!, Chasmic Hornet, did tachi: gekko on Windsday. Torque/mantle/2 stinger drop.

and we were getting yellow !! from drain on darksday.

Mictlantecuhtli
Thunder 3 (BLM) - Green !!
Edit: Might be worth noting it was lightningday.

But then theres some posts that make no sense. Bio2 on lightsday, Koki on Earthday, Stone4 on Windsday.

[FailureMidgard]

I hope this isnt a stretch, but it seems to be recurring way to often to be coincidental:

Don't worry, when it doesn't work for current day, we'll move to day it's claimed, when that doesn't work let's move to day it popped for roaming NMs. When that doesn't work, we can use the next day it's about to change to.

But then theres some posts that make no sense. Bio2 on lightsday, Koki on Earthday, Stone4 on Windsday.

Oh no, you shot your own theory down in the same post.


You only need -1- data point to disprove a theory. You need a ton to prove it. Doesn't matter if 5-6 people saw a correlation when 3 didn't. Coincidence/etc.

[NynJa]

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But then theres some posts that make no sense. Bio2 on lightsday, Koki on Earthday, Stone4 on Windsday.

Oh no, you shot your own theory down in the same post.


You only need -1- data point to disprove a theory. You need a ton to prove it. Doesn't matter if 5-6 people saw a correlation when 3 didn't. Coincidence/etc.

And Bio's elemental opposite is Light, Stone is strong against wind...still elemental consistencies, the only oddball there is Koki...which in itself is an oddball because people have stated it generates both ruby and amber light.

So of the ones I found in this thread that seem to post full information (unless I missed any), 6 share day/element, 2 work off element weakness (or strength), and one stray.

But lets dismiss this because of one stray...do you have any other ideas? No, then why piss away the going model when you lack anything better?


Oh, by the way, that stray Koki that you think deviates and breaks the model...

Koki = Red !! on Tefenet
Earthday

Skillchain Properties: Reverberation/Impaction
Impaction is a thunder based skillchain, and thunder is strong against earth.

The other two that seemed to "shoot down my theory":
Bio2 is a dark based spell, which is strong against light
Stone is an earth based spell, which is strong against wind.

Model holds up buddy. Go be a good little solder and do all the infantry work, let the smart people do the smart work.