Abyssea NM Weaknesses

[macross]

Clearly it wasn't the 19sec casting time Flood that started 19 secs before the message appeared, it must have been the ga2. Worlace's Screenshot, Worlace is caster and....wait for it...
Your attack staggers the fiend!

According to wiki, flood is 18.5 seconds cast time!

[Worlace]

Take it for what you will, it wasn't the first time we had casted Flood, but lol at the epic raging.

[NynJa]

because mobs dont use TP moves that cockblock grllow procs...Should have proced a second one, two grellow dont eliminate the extra drops.

[Plow]

Oh come on, flood is only an 18 second cast, it's not like it's difficult at all to time it perfectly the first cast, no reason you should ever have to cast an ancient more than once going for proc.

btw Worlace, did the person casting the stonegaII happen to have Jenna Haze playing nearby?

[Deader2818]

Ive had Ga 2s proc or are we not debating if they can?

[Aihree]

Never had ga2 proc "grellow". Since ga2's are not part of the 'accepted' chart, if you have more screenshots of ga2 procing, please post them.

[ringthree]

Ive had Ga 2s proc or are we not debating if they can?

You think you have had Ga 2's proc. In reality, you just missed someone else triggering the magic-related !!.

I think there is a logical test here. We have done several runs now in which we have had all current potential triggers and we have always been able to trigger the magic-related !!. Now, the answer to this is that there could always be more than one trigger for the magic-related !!, but this is easily falsifiable by the fact that while having all of current potential triggers we have never gotten two different triggers on the same mob. Probability just doesn't favor the event.

So, in conclusion, if you do not have a definitive picture of a new trigger outside of the established norm, then please let people disseminate the appropriate tested information and stop spreading misinformation.

[NynJa]

Should have proced a second one, two grellow dont eliminate the extra drops.

quoting my post, because its relevant to what I would be posting now.

[Kirschy]

quoting my post, because its relevant to what I would be posting now.

I imagine it works like other !! in that each subsequent use of the !! weakness lowers the chance of it's respective rewards. (ie; Procing red !! seems to reduce Key item/Atma to around ~50%.) I'd be very surprised if multiple uses of magic !! don't diminish it's reward effect~

[Worlace]

Oh come on, flood is only an 18 second cast, it's not like it's difficult at all to time it perfectly the first cast, no reason you should ever have to cast an ancient more than once going for proc.

btw Worlace, did the person casting the stonegaII happen to have Jenna Haze playing nearby?

Yeah I casted it, I'm ambidextrous

[NynJa]

I imagine it works like other !! in that each subsequent use of the !! weakness lowers the chance of it's respective rewards. (ie; Procing red !! seems to reduce Key item/Atma to around ~50%.) I'd be very surprised if multiple uses of magic !! don't diminish it's reward effect~

I've gotten my fair share of (YES/NO)(YES/NO/NO) 2 seal drops, both via single cast of grellow and double cast...and frankly if someone is going to come post something that isnt from the expected lists, like say an aga2, bite the bullet and proc it a second time without any chance of debate.

[Terrestrialrage]

Just throwing this out there for the debate. Popped Durinn on Firesday, i opened Kaiten -> Kaiten for hate, and straight tanked it while the mages tried every spell on the list. No TPs fired except for 1 and i had everyone recast the spells at least 3-4 times with no grellow proc at all. Had people throw the book at him, even brought in a Sch and a Drk for all absorbs, helixes, drains, everything. We hit literally every spell of the corresponding elements (the BLU even set spells off the list and threw those) with no grellow success. He cast nothing and did not TP for most of the time. We found this quite odd...

[Thorny]

You fucked up(in more way than one, lol kaiten).

[Tuna]

Any chance the OP could edit the initial post with lists of what we know triggers what so far?

[Fiarlia]

So wait, is Jenna Haze some sort of meme now? Cause I would totally approve of that.

[aspekt]

Triggering with Jenna Haze procs all three weaknesses at the same time.

[fredjanx]

Has anyone seen a relation regarding red and blue weaknesses?

[aspekt]

other then completely random? no

[Dooom]

I've probably missed it somewhere, but if a Ni Nuke can proc !!, will the San version also proc it?

[aspekt]

I've probably missed it somewhere, but if a Ni Nuke can proc !!, will the San version also proc it?

we are saying no atm doom, until someone can proof with a legit SS where nonlisted spell can proc (multi times on same fight), the 8 spells per day, 24 total per mob will stand.

btw, ever thinking about coming back to levi?