Hysteria over Muslims spreads all over America!

[Vajra]

Vajra get the fuck out of here.

No, read my post you doo doo head!

[Kuya]

Why is it so easy to despise vajra.

[Akucaen]

I like him only for posting that clip, proving once again that fox news is a load of bullshit at absolute best.

[Vajra]

Why is it so easy to despise vajra.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/...00/2081994.jpg

I like him only for posting that clip, proving once again that fox news is a load of bullshit at absolute best.

Well those are the Fox and Friends crew who fill in on the weekends for Gretchen the witch and Boobface dudes(they are weekdays). We'll see how they react on Monday...stay tuned...

[Mizango]

Why is it so easy to despise vajra.

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[Vajra]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLsHP94bvXs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iHp69Ed5iI

You guys need to stop the hate, we must band together in unity to stop hate against Muslims also, peace!

[Rhinox]

pretty sure the only reason Varja supports this other then the fact that Obama supports this is the 2nd largest population of muslims are black

[Elvis]

fuck all this redundant noise about uppity brown people

someone play borderlands with me damnit

[Deftscythe]

I saw that on Daily Show.

So did I. lol. I've just not got the patience for regular news lately. It's all so petty and biased. What was that thing Obama said? Nowadays the news reports "who won today" instead of what happened?

[Kerberoz]

So did I. lol. I've just not got the patience for regular news lately. It's all so petty and biased. What was that thing Obama said? Nowadays the news reports "who won today" instead of what happened?

http://recordbrother.typepad.com/ima...ld_cover_1.jpg

[Deftscythe]

It's been a few years. I'm guessing that's meant to be a statement about willful ignorance.

[Kuya]

DAISY KHAN: Well, thank you, Amy, for having me on the show. This idea goes back to 1999, when Imam Feisal, who is, you know, an Islamic scholar, an imam who’s been an imam in Tribeca for twenty-seven years, looked at how religions evolve in America over—you know, over its course, and has spoken to rabbis and Catholics and determined that the evolution or trajectory of Americanizing a religion happens primarily with institution building and that once you go from a place of worship to an institute that serves the general public is when that faith becomes Americanized. And so, establishing something like a YMCA or the equivalent of a JCC or a 92nd Street Y, which would be the Muslim equivalent, would be necessary for the Muslim community to do in order to integrate itself and call itself an American religion. So this idea has been on the books for a while.

And in 2000—prior to 2000, we actually tried to purchase another building called McBurney Y on 23rd Street, and we did not succeed. Somebody else came along with more money. And it’s only recently, because of the need for additional prayer space in lower Manhattan, because of the influx of so many immigrants, and our congregational prayers happen on Friday, there has been an increase in people that have been coming for prayers, that there was a desire to look for another site. And it was primarily to be in the same neighborhood, because our current mosque was only twelve blocks from Ground Zero. And so, one of our congregants, Soho Properties, Sharif Gamal, took it upon himself to look for a site that might be suitable. And it is that search that resulted in finding this property, which was—you know, which had been vacant for nine years.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And were you surprised by the sudden reaction in the final moments of your getting approval, in the final weeks of your getting approval of the project, the enormous reaction, not just in New York City, but across the country, by some of these political leaders?

DAISY KHAN: Well, we went in front of the community board primarily to gauge the receptivity of the community board, whether they would welcome a center that would be larger than just a prayer space. And, of course, the first community board meeting was—there was a unanimous vote, you know, 15-to-zero, and everybody was in favor, because they saw the benefit that it would bring to the community. In fact, they suggested that perhaps maybe we should consider a 9/11 memorial. And we did. We said we’ll be happy to include that. And then, many of our politicians, our borough president, welcomed it. And, you know, we are already in the neighborhood. And we, you know, are New Yorkers. We are Americans. We may be Muslim, but this tragedy was our tragedy as much as anybody else’s. So we didn’t see ourselves as the other. We saw ourselves as being part and parcel of this. So we knew that there might be some people that we might have to bring along, but we did not expect a coordinated national opposition against this project.

AMY GOODMAN: Let me go back to Daisy Khan for a minute. A very interesting response from the state, from Governor Paterson. They apparently are saying they would give you free state land if you’d simply move away from where you want to build this. And this is Governor Paterson’s quote. He said, "Frankly, if the sponsors were looking for property anywhere at a distance that would be such that it would accommodate a better feeling among the people who are frustrated, I would look into trying to provide them with the state property they would need." What is your response to that?

DAISY KHAN: Well, we were—you know, we had just begun our dialogue with the 9/11 families. And what we—and I’d like to go back to what the earlier discussion was before I answer this question—is that there is a very strong link that people have, those people who oppose this project, and they cannot delink the religion of Islam from the actions of the extremists. And so, an entire Muslim community is being labeled as if they belong to the extremist ideologies. And this is deeply troubling to us, because this is why I think that, you know, in small pockets of the country we see these kinds of resistances, because people just can’t delink the religion of Islam. So I think that even if we relocated, we still need to have a conversation, because I don’t think that, just by us relocating, that that mindset, that stereotyping, is going to go away.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/1...country_muslim

[Demosthenes11]

i love vajra; he reminds me of some jamaican dude i canvassed last summer. Talked about all these liberal things for like 10 minutes in agreement. Then when I told him that I was there in support of gay marriage, he said, word for word "whoa man, fuck that shit. I'm jamaican, we don't play that way"

[Kuya]

How can an entire nation have so much male insecurity.

[Cadsuane]

Very elucidating interview, Kuya. Kind of cinches the issue. Naturally you won't see guys like Egon or Swamp come out and say "Mea culpa guys, that's a new way to look at it", though.

[Khalil]

Readind shit like this knda makes me glad I live in Toronto, a melting pot of different cultures and religious views.

[Demosthenes11]

Readind shit like this knda makes me glad I live in Toronto, a melting pot of different cultures and religious views.

...and america isn't? If you are going to say something like "I'm glad I don't live in the USA" at least make an intelligent point.

[kuronosan]

...and america isn't? If you are going to say something like "I'm glad I don't live in the USA" at least make an intelligent point.

America is by far the deepest melting pot of cultural and religious views.

We just happen to have a bunch of dumb shits who keep trying to add more salt and vinegar because they don't like the taste.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Very elucidating interview, Kuya. Kind of cinches the issue. Naturally you won't see guys like Egon or Swamp come out and say "Mea culpa guys, that's a new way to look at it", though.

Except if this was really about outreach why doesn't he say what the terrorists did on 9/11 was wrong? Why doesn't he renounce terrorism? Why hasn't he spoken with the families? Why does he have terrorist connections?

And saying, "they would still give us problems so were not gonna move further away," is just more proof to me. That's a pretty presumptuous position to take for someone who is all about outreach.

[Zoolander]

Except if this was really about outreach why doesn't he say what the terrorists did on 9/11 was wrong? Why doesn't he renounce terrorism?

Why the hell should they have to do either of these things? Renounce terrorism, are you serious?

And eh, you know damn well the real reason they wouldn't dare move now is that this has become a battle, why should they succumb to this ridiculous pressure to move? Its become much more than just a building for both sides of this. Of course he can't say that, and the reason he does give also has some legitimacy on its own.

For all this talk about building an Islamic center thats not even within sight of ground zero being insensitive, no one seems to give a shit about being sensitive to the millions of Muslims in this country living here peacefully. Fuckin brown people.