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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    *lalalalalalalala*

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    Would it be far fetched for someone as self-absorbed as Rand to also be an ethnocentrist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    Would it be far fetched for someone as self-absorbed as Rand to also be an ethnocentrist?
    Not so much, no

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    This is what Rauf said about 9/11, were some have said he said that the US "deserved" it:

    Columnist Jonathan Rauch wrote that Abdul Rauf gave a "mixed, muddled, muttered" message after 9/11.[14] Nineteen days after the attacks, he told CBS’s 60 Minutes that fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam. Rauch said that the message was mixed, however, because when then asked if the U.S. deserved the attacks, Rauf answered: "I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened. But the United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened."[15][16][3] Rauch observed: "Note the verb. The crime "happened"?"[14]


    When the interviewer asked Rauf how he considered the U.S. an accessory, he replied, "Because we have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA."[5][15][16] Peter T. King, Rick Lazio, and Sarah Palin expressed concern about his remarks, when discussing Abdul Rauf as the driving force behind the Cordoba mosque.[15][17][18]
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    WWIII coming within the next three days ...

    http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/N...aspx?id=185060
    Bolton: Obama won't strike Iranian nuclear reactor
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    17/08/2010

    Former UN ambassador claims Israel has only 3 days to strike Bushehr plant before fuel rods mean radioactive fallout; "that's what Israel did in Osirak, Iraq in 1981."


    Former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton said he didn't see "any signs whatsoever that President Obama would make the necessary decision" to strike Iran's nuclear reactor, speaking in an interview with Israel Radio Tuesday.

    Bolton claimed Israel has only three days to strike before Russia "begins the fueling process for the Bushehr reactor this Friday," after which any attack would cause radioactive fallout that could reach as far as the waters of the Persian Gulf.

    In an interview with Fox Business Network earlier Tuesday Bolton had said the deadline was eight days, but he revised it to three in the Israel Radio interview, saying Iran and Russia had announced they would begin fueling on Friday.

    "It has always been optimal that military force is used before the fuel rods are inserted," Bolton explained. "That's what Israel did in Osirak in 1991, and when they attacked the North Korean reactor built in Syria." Israel bombed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, and a Syrian reactor in 2007.

    However Bolton didn't see any indication that an Israeli strike was going to happen. "Obviously if Israel were going to do something it wouldn't exactly be advertising it. But time is short."

    Bolton said that it would be "a much more dangerous world" if Iran were to gain nuclear capability. "That's why I think it's so critical. It won't stop with Iran. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, perhaps other states as well."

    Iranian nuclear chief Ali Akbar Salehi said earlier Tuesday that an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities would be an "international crime."

    In an interview with IRNA, Salehi said that the impact of such a strike would be global. "This is stipulated in the resolutions passed by the IAEA and the UN Security Council as well as in the resolution adopted at the close of the NPT Review Conference," he stressed.

    Russia, who is supplying the uranium fuel for the plant, announced last week that they will begin loading the Bushehr reactor on August 21.

    In an initial interview earlier today with Fox Business Network earlier Tuesday, Bolton warned that once the Bushehr facility is operational it will be too late for a military air strike against Iran because such an attack would spread radiation and harm Iranian civilians.

    "Once that uranium, once those fuel rods are very close to the reactor, certainly once they're in the reactor, attacking it means a release of radiation, no question about it," Bolton said.

    "Iran will achieve something that no other opponent of Israel, no other enemy of the United States in the Middle East really has and that is a functioning nuclear reactor."

    Bolton was critical of Russia for aiding Iran in the fueling of the nuclear reactor.

    "The Russians are, as they often do, playing both sides against the middle. The idea of being able to stick a thumb in America's eye always figures prominently in Moscow," Bolton concluded.

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    Who is Chris Christie and why do I want to like him?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/repub...ry?id=11419357

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    The Republican governor of New Jersey chastised Democrats and Republicans for using the proposed Islamic center near the site of the 9/11 terror attack as a "political football," in a sharp departure from members of his own party who are intent on making the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque" an issue in fall election campaigns.

    Gov. Chris Christie's comments contrast those of prominent national Republicans, including Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin who kept up their attack on the proposed project two blocks from where the World Trade Center was destroyed by Islamic militants.

    Palin, who previously criticized the planned mosque, took to the airwaves Monday to attack President Obama for saying the Muslims had a right to build there.

    "He just doesn't get it, that this is an insensitive move on the part of those Muslims who want to build that mosque in this location. It feels like a stab in the heart to, collectively, Americans who still have that lingering pain from 9/11," the former Republican governor of Alaska said on Fox News.

    Her comments echoed those of New Gingrich who compared the Islamic Center's backers to Nazis.

    But Christie warned against politicians "overreacting," and he spoke as someone with a closer connection to the tragedy.

    Christie served as New Jersey's attorney general following the attacks, and many of the nearly 3,000 people who died in the collapse of the Twin Towers were from New Jersey. New Jersey was also a co-owner of the World Trade Center.

    "Given my last position, that I was the first U.S attorney post 9/11 in New Jersey, I understand acutely the pain and sorrow and upset of the family members who lost loved ones that day at the hands of radical Muslim extremists," said Christie at a bill-signing ceremony. "And their sensitivities and concerns have to be taken into account. Just because it's nearly nine years later, those sensitivities cannot and should not be ignored."

    He included Obama as among the politicians who he scolded for playing politics with the emotional issue and called for tolerance for Muslims.

    "We cannot paint all of Islam with that brush. ...We have to bring people together. And what offends me the most about all this is that it's being used as a political football by both parties. And what disturbs me about the president's remarks is that he is now using it as a political football as well. I think the president of the United States should rise above that."

    The govenor said he would not take a public stance on the Islamic center because "I don't believe that it would be responsible of me to get involved and comment on this any further because it just put me in the same political arena as all of them," he said.

    Christie also suggested the project's builders have some compassion, saying the feelings of the 9/11 family members should be given "deference."

    He was insistent on not commenting on whether the project should be built.

    "I am not going to get into it, because I would be guilty of candidly what I think some Republicans are guilty of, and the president is now, the president is guilty of, of playing politics with this issue, and I simply am not going to do it," Christie said.

    "All people in our country suffer when those kind of things happen," he said.

    Soon after Obama said the developers of proposed Islamic center, now renamed Park 51, had the right to build, Republicans led by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, criticized the President for being out of touch and said they would use the issue to attack Democrats in tight races.

    On Monday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid became the first Democrat forced by a Republican challenger to comment of the mosque. Sen. Reid, D- Nev., split with the president and said he was opposed to the center being built.

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    Fuck Christie he is bending fire/police/EMS over and double penetrating them. Fuck him and his pension crap and all of the jobs he's cost.

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    Uh... according to that WWIII article, Israel bombed the Osirak reactor in 1981, 1991, and again in 1981.

    http://coop.deadsquid.com/images/great_scott_400.png

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    Hah, my gf just brought up a good point: people are acting as though the WTC site is sacred, do these people worship massacres?

    What kind of people would do this?

    What's next, are you going to start wearing little figurines representing the method by which a major figure in your religion died?

    Oh, wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Hah, my gf just brought up a good point: people are acting as though the WTC site is sacred, do these people worship massacres?

    What kind of people would do this?

    What's next, are you going to start wearing little figurines representing the method by which a major figure in your religion died?

    Oh, wait...
    Christianity is in love with martyrs, whaddya expect?

    One of my friends is a follower of a site where they list every single christian person that dies (and makes it to the news) due to a hate crime anywhere in the world, calling them martyrs. It's quite annoying when she reposts them via facebook.

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    Ah yes, site is even aptly named...

    http://www.persecution.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Hah, my gf just brought up a good point: people are acting as though the WTC site is sacred, do these people worship massacres?

    What kind of people would do this?

    What's next, are you going to start wearing little figurines representing the method by which a major figure in your religion died?

    Oh, wait...
    I hate them protesting too, but this doesn't make any sense. WTC isn't the first nor last place where bad things happened but was left as a memorial/reminder/museum.

    Perfect case in point:

    http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/z/


    which gave this a lot of drama (right or wrong aside, just the fact people are still upset):

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...Auschwitz.html

    and that was just dancing.

    So ya, this is not unheard of, nor are they necessarily bad for acting like it's "sacred".

    They're just idiots for taking it to the extreme and making it about something it was not.

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    Not all christians, but yeah, the vast majority of them are nutballs.

    Wonder if I could sell 9/11 tribute symbol necklaces... like, a stylized pair of towers with a plane and smoke attached to them?

    Edit: fuck, beaten:
    http://store.heroescross.com/Product...20necklace.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhais View Post
    Christianity is in love with martyrs, whaddya expect?

    One of my friends is a follower of a site where they list every single christian person that dies (and makes it to the news) due to a hate crime anywhere in the world, calling them martyrs. It's quite annoying when she reposts them via facebook.

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    Ah yes, site is even aptly named...

    http://www.persecution.com/
    Christianity isn't the only religion in love with Martyrdom... 72 virgins what?

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    There's 4 Islamic Centers on Manhattan south of 42nd street, with another 5 on the north end of the island. The closest ones are about 10 minutes from where the new one will be constructed.

    Also, the new one is planning on opening on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 bearing the name "The Cordoba Insitute"... Cordoba was the site of Islamic takeover of the Iberian pennisula in 700 AD.

    Do they have a right? absolutely... is it a gross display of insensitivity? absolutely.

    The amusing part of this, is that nothing gets built in New York without organized labor, and some union leaders have already stated they will have nothing to do with the project.

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    What is with Americans and conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    What is with Americans and conspiracy theories.
    It's something in the water ...

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