Hysteria over Muslims spreads all over America!

[BerenTebogo]

Is that because the laws covering these types of issues are directly related to laws coming out of Christian and Jewish laws/traditions (like how a lot of Western laws can be traced back to stuff written in the Bible), or is there a more obvious connection between the religions and how these issues are settled?

Not a lawyer and I'm pretty sure they're not interpreted as "laws" the way religions would like them to but I believe they're a consideration in the matter of custody, divorce, last name, that kind of stuff.

[kuronosan]

Anyway, Egon fell into a trap on the first post and I'm disappointed in all of you for not catching it. In the future, here is how it plays out:

Person 1: "Oh man, look at how badly we're treating _____ over here in America. We're infringing upon the civil liberties they're guaranteed as citizens by the constitution."
Person 2: "Don't act like it's a one way street man, they discriminate against _____ in their country too."
Person 1: "Yeah, but they're a third world theocracy and we're the global symbol of religious and personal freedom. We should be using different standards."

You forget that whenever asshurt Christians realize they're being hypocrites, they simply say that we meant religious freedom to be Christians and personal freedom to mean people that don't come from terrorist nations.

Of course, they still don't realize how hypocritical that is, but that's besides the point.

[Rhinox]

You guys are arguing with a Born again teabagger in Egon.

Just think about it.

[kuronosan]

I've learned not to argue with those sorts of people anymore. Hell, I don't even bat much of an eye at Egon's posts.

I find this thread hilarious, really.

[Rhinox]

I'm wondering why Kuya thinks that love for a man = gay fag love.

Or why a group of retards in America who have no clue about one of the key founding reasons for America. Religious freedom should still be an important thing.

Its funny how Kuya's love for gay men and hate for America cloud his ability to even be a decent troll.

Also, this Hysteria over Muslims isnt just an American thing, its a worldwide thing. Maybe its a disease like being gay?

How exactly do you go about telling who hates America?


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[BerenTebogo]

If you aren't down with god you aren't down with america because god made america for americans and we're all one nation indivisible under him for like 500 years.

[Dimmauk]

How exactly do you go about telling who hates America?


edit: off to work

He isnt American, so he must hate America.

[Amastacia]

Also the correct answer is move to Switzerland, drive in Italy.

Actually, the fuzz in Italy are starting to lose their tolerance of people piloting low-flying aircraft, it's a real buzzkiller. The Stelvio Pass (the road from Top Gear) is a compelling reason to drive *from* Switzerland *to* Italy though.

And Switzerland or Monaco are both acceptable choices.

[benjamus]

a relevant article:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...ound-zero.html

[Gadritan]

What's the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?

No one?

Only takes 1 nail to hang a picture.

Edit: Ya know Jesus actually did try playing in the NFL once and failed miserably. He kept getting nailed.

[Plow]

How exactly do you go about telling who hates America?


edit: off to work

here's a simple litmus test:


name one single positive thing kuya has ever said about the U.S.


now, ask yourself how often he talks negatively about it


You're choosing the wrong person to defend in your "zomg anyone that disagrees with you hates america" spiel.

[Gadritan]

Hate America. Blame Canada.

Words to live by.

[Cleveland_7795]

y hlo thar mister 1 post, welcome to BG. Need instructions on how to get that hook out of your mouth?

Typical lefty. Can't actually answer the question because it would invalidate alot of your arguments or violate the tenants of your beliefs, so lets resort to ad hominem attacks. Rather than admit there is a massive difference between the actions of anti-muslim christians, and the actions of anti-christian muslims, you focus on my post count.

Truth be told, you can't answer the question, because the Christian extemists you so desparately want to destroy/belittle, don't actually do anything. Sure, they may hold some protests, maybe make some mis-spelled signs with some hateful messages. But at the end of the day, is anyone really hurt? No.

Islam is an ideology that kills people for drawing a picture of Mohammed, and we are supposed to give a damn if their feelings are hurt because some people protest a mosque?

[Correction]

"Someone got killed over drawing muhammed, therefore it's okay for intolerant white folks to conflate islam with terrorism and block the construction of any muslim temples on land they own. Religious freedom for white christians only!"

Someone check IP logs on this Cleveland fella, I smell a sock.

[Cadsuane]

here's a simple litmus test:


name one single positive thing kuya has ever said about the U.S.


now, ask yourself how often he talks negatively about it


You're choosing the wrong person to defend in your "zomg anyone that disagrees with you hates america" spiel.

BOTH SIDES

You only need to counterbalance a criticism with irrelevant praise when you're dealing with jackasses who can't evaluate an argument without making cheap and dramatizing character judgments.

[Byrthnoth]

Typical lefty. Can't actually answer the question because it would invalidate alot of your arguments or violate the tenants of your beliefs, so lets resort to ad hominem attacks. Rather than admit there is a massive difference between the actions of anti-muslim christians, and the actions of anti-christian muslims, you focus on my post count.

Truth be told, you can't answer the question, because the Christian extemists you so desparately want to destroy/belittle, don't actually do anything. Sure, they may hold some protests, maybe make some mis-spelled signs with some hateful messages. But at the end of the day, is anyone really hurt? No.

Islam is an ideology that kills people for drawing a picture of Mohammed, and we are supposed to give a damn if their feelings are hurt because some people protest a mosque?

Okay children, watch how I field this one.

So, you're saying that because anti-Christian Muslims in third world Islamic theocracies mistreat Christians, it is acceptable to discriminate against and generally be bitches towards Muslims in the USA.
See, son, theocracies are nations that make their laws and policies on the basis of religious beliefs. The USA is a nation founded with the specific aim of making church and state separate entities. We are the antithesis of a theocracy, and suggesting we begin to act in the interest of a specific faith is at best borderline unpatriotic. That said, the Bill of Rights also affords people the rights to be jackasses and do things like protesting mosque building as long as they are relatively civil about it.

Protest away jackasses, but don't try to make it a legal battle or you spit on the Bill of Rights.

[Cleveland_7795]

"Someone got killed over drawing muhammed, therefore it's okay for intolerant white folks to conflate islam with terrorism and block the construction of any muslim temples on land they own. Religious freedom for white christians only!"

Someone check IP logs on this Cleveland fella, I smell a sock.

"Freedom of Assembly for liberal leftards only!"

Funny how you only pick and choose which freedoms/protested rights you are going to champion. As here, freedom of religion only applies to Islam. Freedom of religion/freedom of assembly, does not apply to the groups protesting the mosque.

Also...white? Playing the race card this early?

Sock? Hardly. But keep working on getting me banned, as this is your only means of debate. I disagree with you, so therefore I must be banned?

[Correction]

I'm not denying their freedom of assembly. The protesters, however, won't stop until the mulsim's freedom to worship freely is curtailed.

For one who opens up with 'such a wide difference in action' you sure love being blind to other giant gaps.

[Cleveland_7795]

I'm not denying their freedom of assembly. The protesters, however, won't stop until the mulsim's freedom to worship freely is curtailed.

For one who opens up with 'such a wide difference in action' you sure love being blind to other giant gaps.

So, they should have the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc...but, because they will continue to exercise those rights, we should just take them away? Which is it? "Okay for me, but not for thee" right?

[Byrthnoth]

So, they should have the right to assemble, freedom of speech, etc...but, because they will continue to exercise those rights, we should just take them away? Which is it? "Okay for me, but not for thee" right?

It's completely okay for them to be sitting there protesting crap as long as they aren't obstructing anything and have the right permits. It would be equally okay to take all their names down and publish them in the newspaper or on the web as people protesting ____ cause. It's also okay to picket next to them and protest the protest.

Lets not get confused about the un-American nature of religious discrimination. The ones being discriminated against aren't the jackasses here.

The only times I get worried about protesters and crap like this is when I hear politicians saying it. Politicians are obligated to represent their constituents. It is not their job to guard the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Still, it would be nice if they would at least superficially stand up for the country's ideals.