FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VI: Phase 3, FFXIV is still on the rag!

**Katlan** · 2010-08-20 16:53

inb4 ppl start shouting:

"WTS Leve's for xxx gil! You can either join me for 1/2 the price or ill set the leve to w/e you want and hang out at the camp!"

**ScGr** · 2010-08-20 17:00

Originally Posted by Katlan

inb4 ppl start shouting:

"WTS Leve's for xxx gil! You can either join me for 1/2 the price or ill set the leve to w/e you want and hang out at the camp!"

Why would any one do this?

If they want to level, and they turn this into a trend, they're just going to spend all the money they made on other peoples leves.

Selling leves will never work.

It would be like Dark Knights in XI selling them selves to PTs.

**AshTS** · 2010-08-20 17:01

Why would any one do this?

If they want to level, and they turn this into a trend, they're just going to spend all the money they made on other peoples leves.

Selling leves will never work.

It would be like Dark Knights in XI selling them selves to PTs.

Well, seen it happen on Jecht twice. Not sure if it was a stunt or not.

**Cureslime** · 2010-08-20 17:08

When party exp was still really nuts there was a lot of leve trading going on. You couldn't get a party unless you yourself had leves to contribute. Now people don't really care as most people give up on leveling around 20.

Considering the bad rep you'd get in retail by selling them I don't see it being a problem.

**Katlan** · 2010-08-20 17:16

ppl don't care as much because no point to lv over and over and over again for beta lol.

**Gwynplaine** · 2010-08-20 17:24

Just a couple questions:
Is there any way to rotate the character during creation? I can't even tell what changes half the time.

Is it difficult to get ammo for Archer? Or is it easy/cheap to get enough ammo at this time?

**Chrystolis** · 2010-08-20 17:25

Originally Posted by AshTS

Well, seen it happen on Jecht twice. Not sure if it was a stunt or not.

I've sure seen some people beg (and beg, and beg, and beg, and beg) for someone to do leves with. I'm sure they have no clue how bad the sp/xp they'll be getting will be...

If they bump up the incentive to party for leves, I have no doubt there will be people selling them in retail.

**Galkaeater** · 2010-08-20 17:27

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ale/yomenu.jpg

**ayjis** · 2010-08-20 17:39

I still think allowing Mp regen and allowing FFXI's partying style will solve most of peoples complaints as far as exp goes. I really, really do.

I'm a fool for even wishing it. Maybe I should take off my goggles.

**Kurokikaze** · 2010-08-20 17:42

Just read that interview... liked it much more than the Core interview. They weren't as dismissive with their answers. Also it looks like they are aware of the big things we're all complaining about on the forums. I remain hopeful for this game. Launch is gonna be rough... but 2-3 months after things will pick up for the better I'm sure.

Really looking forward to balanced party play in and out of guildleves.

**Takiwaki** · 2010-08-20 17:43

"F: Tell why you decided to implement Fatigue and Latency (note: I really don't know how to translate that, but it's something in-game to keep you from playing too long at a time on one class).

DK: We'd like you to think of it as a reward to those players who don't have much time to commit to the game. Those hardcore players out there might think it's a little unfair, but the main concept behind it is that you don't need to put in massive amounts of time to enjoy the game.

F: Still though, there are a lot of disgruntled looks coming from those hardcore gamers.

DK: For those who have more time on their hands, they'll be able to try out all the various classes. Fatigue doesn't carry over when you change weapons, so we hope that they'll try out not just battle-oriented classes but maybe some crafting or gathering ones as well. So for those who end up with many high-level classes, they'll have more choices when it comes to any situation, whether solo or party play."

Soo its a fatigue system. . .

**Buddy** · 2010-08-20 17:45

Originally Posted by Gwynplaine

Just a couple questions:
Is there any way to rotate the character during creation? I can't even tell what changes half the time.

Is it difficult to get ammo for Archer? Or is it easy/cheap to get enough ammo at this time?

Before someone jumps down your throat for these questions already being discussed, I believe ijkl will rotate your character and there was some "hearsay" about archer possibly being one of (if not the) most expensive job as far as ammo goes. I'll try to find which threads I read this from later if you really need it.

**Spork** · 2010-08-20 17:52

Originally Posted by Takiwaki

Soo its a fatigue system. . .

YES YES YES. Someone finally asked the $10,000,000 question in an interview. Worst fears realized.

It's like SE only wants players to log on for a couple hours every 2 days to play.

Still get that nice monthly fee and reduce bandwidth costs!

**Takiwaki** · 2010-08-20 17:58

I do not understand why gimp xp, why not just boost casual players xp relative to the amount of time they spend offline. How is it any fun forcing people to swap classes or go craft if they do not want to.? =\

**Calemero** · 2010-08-20 18:01

If that really is an accurate breakdown of how Surplus is going to work, SE just killed off 75% of their hardcore XI crossovers.

**Rothbardian** · 2010-08-20 18:03

SE is fucking stupid. What is SE now, China? Well, that just changes everything for me. SE is not getting my money. What happens with someone who works 60 hours a week and has one day off? They can only play for a few hours? Hardly anyone is going to pay 15$ a month to play a game for 10 hours. This is stupid and punishes casuals just as much as "hardcore" players. SE is fucking retarded.

**Agito** · 2010-08-20 18:05

Faction Leves is going to be the only endgame in FFXIV.. That's going to be just like doing Limbus or something... lol. SE did say though that more hardcore content would be added so let's hope it comes sooner rather than later.

**Spork** · 2010-08-20 18:05

You don't nerf half your player base to give a bonus to the other half. If you want to give casuals the ability to keep up then do something like WoW's rested exp system.

Can you link the source for that interview BTW?

**Takiwaki** · 2010-08-20 18:06

Originally Posted by Spork

You don't nerf half your player base to give a bonus to the other half. If you want to give casuals the ability to keep up then do something like WoW's rested exp system.

Can you link the source for that interview BTW?

its from Core sorry

http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11248...com-interview/

**Murureru** · 2010-08-20 18:06

I can't seem to access my retainer in the market wards or at hawkers alley?

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