FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VI: Phase 3, FFXIV is still on the rag!

[lvicious]

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On a more on topic note: maybe it would be helpful if there were a thread or subforum here where people could advertise or search through sales to make the Market Wards system a little easier to trudge through?

yeah I'm all for that^. Not really digging this Market Ward system so far and SE is already stated basically this is the direction they are going and in no way will install a AH.. so some way to make it easier yes pls. Would of loved a ffxivah.com site.

eorzea.blogspot.com has a very long but pretty much right on post about the shit that's wrong with the game so far

[Alderaan]

Just got my first taste of the game tonight. I've never wanted to log off after a few hours in any other MMO before.

Mouse and menu lag drove me fucking nuts. Not to mention the lag when mobs die and they still look alive. Oh and trying to tab to the next mob when i have 2 on me, ugh.

Made it about 5 minutes before i gave up on my naga + n52te combo and switched to controller which was actually pretty nice.

I'm also kinda bummed because i really can't see myself playing this at launch in the shape it's in now. After the initial fun of exploration and screwing around with friends, it really wasn't that much fun to me.

[arus2001]

Yeah, if OB doesn't show major improvements in UI and such, I'll probably be canceling my pre-order. Much as I'd like to get away from XI, I won't really let XIV fool me like Aion did with so very little to do at launch. Though, I do believe SE can at least get content in more quickly and at higher quality than NC did/does. Plus part of me just wants to see how the upped caps in XI just fuck with the game as we knew it for so many years.

[Akiyama]

Just got my first taste of the game tonight. I've never wanted to log off after a few hours in any other MMO before.

Mouse and menu lag drove me fucking nuts. Not to mention the lag when mobs die and they still look alive. Oh and trying to tab to the next mob when i have 2 on me, ugh.

Made it about 5 minutes before i gave up on my naga + n52te combo and switched to controller which was actually pretty nice.

I'm also kinda bummed because i really can't see myself playing this at launch in the shape it's in now. After the initial fun of exploration and screwing around with friends, it really wasn't that much fun to me.

Agreed. Not to mention the constant FPS drop every time you run through town. You basically have to be out in the middle of nowhere to get that shit working properly, but yeah. Mix in the laggy menus and how many fucking windows you have to go through just to equip stuff.. it's borderline ridiculous right now. They need to work on fixing these actual problems instead of worrying about the mouse, and optimize it further, or I'm sure tons will cancel pre-orders.

[TransparentMind]

Hope its not too late to cancel pre-orders for this. I'm not falling for the whole "ITZ ONLY BETA JEEZ OMG RELAX!" remarks. SE are morons and it took them the lifespan of one MMO to even start making decent decisions on players behalfs. Pretending they are going to do anything but fuck us around and shit all over us with XIV just makes us all look even more retarded for holding out hope. Which is really frigging drepressing as I desperately wanted to move onto this from XI, but I think its time to finally find that cure for cancer instead.

I've played the beta for maybe 8 hours total now and I don't think i've enjoyed any of it. My first character was glitched out and didn't recieve any skills at all, despite the quest log & level up saying I acquired them. Now that i've finally found a decent place to level (after burning all my guildleves in a heartbeat) the surplusing has kicked in to make sure I don't enjoy that either. Could P3 be any worse?

Did not mean this to be a whiney post, just hitting the limit on my frustration atm.

Question:
Leveling my PUG to 13 before I had to stop and level marauder & lancer to 7 my heavy strikes were doing about 35-40 regularly. As soon as I finished leveling the other jobs and went back on to PUG my heavy strikes on the same exact lost wethers were only doing 15-19 now. Is there some kind of penalty for switching jobs? Did I lose some kind of proficiency with my hand-to-hand?

[Kurokikaze]

For those that didnt get the memo:

Thank you for participating in the FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Test.

The current Beta Test Phase 3 (Beta 3) will end on August 25 at 5:00pm (PDT), and we plan to start the Open Beta Test in early September.
We look forward to your continued help and support.

*After Beta 3 ends, all character data will be deleted.
*For the period during which a beta test is not being conducted, players will not be able to access the Players’ Site.
*Once the test’s character data have been deleted, all blogs and images on the Players’ Site will also be deleted.

[Nevex]

I've played the beta for maybe 8 hours

Should have said that at the start so I could have stopped reading earlier.

[Arximiro]

For those that didnt get the memo:

Gdit and I just got this too ;;

Spoiler: show

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[Lyle]

For those that didnt get the memo:

Wait, so will they be deleting people's feedbacks in doing so as well?

[AshTS]

That's funny. The last time someone got that shield, they announced the end of P2.

Thanks for fucking it up for the rest of us, Arx.

Wait, so will they be deleting people's feedbacks in doing so as well?

You think they are going to read it?

[Talragan]

Yeah, if OB doesn't show major improvements in UI and such, I'll probably be canceling my pre-order. Much as I'd like to get away from XI, I won't really let XIV fool me like Aion did with so very little to do at launch. Though, I do believe SE can at least get content in more quickly and at higher quality than NC did/does. Plus part of me just wants to see how the upped caps in XI just fuck with the game as we knew it for so many years.

This.

As much as I love SE games for the most part, this is just stupid.

I got fooled by Aion, LOTR:O and Star Wars, I wont let it happen again.

Tbh, I would be willing enough to shell out 100 bucks (i'm aussie) and give it a chance if they just changed to a hardware mouse and allowed key binding.

But in current form, I think I will be going down to my retailer and canceling it if nothing changes..

[Loaar]

Wait, so will they be deleting people's feedbacks in doing so as well?

They said the players site gets deleted, not the forums.

Same thing happened from b2 > b3.

Even if they wiped the forums, you dont think any feedback they needed they dont have already?

Feedback hasn't changed in 95% of cases since the alpha. They know exactly how everyone feels, its just a case of what are they going to do about it.

They don't need to read the 400 pages of drivel again.

[omegaB]

to the dude who thought his chr was glitched, if it wasnt a pug, you have to go down to the drop down menu and use the kb or mouse to selevt the class with skills you want

as to deleting the threads, i think they are talking about the players site which shows chr data and has blogs

[arus2001]

For those that didnt get the memo:

Sweet, so we went through all the delayed beta key bullshit just for them to invalidate the need for them like 5 days later. I feel bad for Sonomaa and Pikko now having to manually send out all those codes.

[Kirb]

Did not mean this to be a whiney post, just hitting the limit on my frustration atm.

I think you need a break, bro.


Ending phase 3 already, eh? It probably would have been better for them at the point to scrap the tickets and just wait until OB.

Only got a week or so of playtime, but I actually did have fun and enjoyed the battle system a lot, regardless of all the bugginess and lag.

There's a lot of potential here, and I think simply fixing the menu lag and a few choice UI changes will make things a whole lot more enjoyable. They've mentioned that they're working on the delay and UI, rebalancing everything, and mob placement as well, so I'm willing to bet OB should be a pretty different beast, with as many or more changes from P1 > P3.
Here's to hoping I'm right.

[Kurokikaze]

There's a lot of potential here, and I think simply fixing the menu lag and a few choice UI changes will make things a whole lot more enjoyable. They've mentioned that they're working on the delay and UI, rebalancing everything, and mob placement as well, so I'm willing to bet OB should be a pretty different beast, with as many or more changes from P1 > P3.
Here's to hoping I'm right.

I agree. I hope you're right about the changes.. Open Beta is pretty much gonna make it or break it for a lot of people. :/

[Loaar]

Sweet, so we went through all the delayed beta key bullshit just for them to invalidate the need for them like 5 days later. I feel bad for Sonomaa and Pikko now having to manually send out all those codes.

No MMO open beta is truly open. They almost all need a key from a fansite, or a preorder, or something.

Not sure why you think this will be any different.

[BlackheartX]

I agree. I hope you're right about the changes.. Open Beta is pretty much gonna make it or break it for a lot of people. :/

If they don't majorly overhaul the UI this game is going to get a swift hand into delayed status.

[Lordender]

Man I see this being such an uphill battle for SE. I want to like this game but there are just some things that kill me like the UI needs to be condensed down big time, the UI is just horrible, there isn't one thing I like about it at all.

Crafting is a nightmare, buying from NPC's takes longer than it should. I think the biggest thing that has bothered me so far while playing the beta: it just seems like they had a chance to keep everything simple and decided to overcomplicate things. FF14 is a next gen MMO with the UI of something from an old PC game from the late 90's.

If i were to compare what I have seen so far in the control aspect it's like comparing sidescroller shooters of the 1980's with horrible controls to a masterpeice that was contra in the control department. I really wish they would have taken notes on WoW's crafting menu's, buying/selling to an npc which allows easy/quick transactions with just a click of a button.

The things I do like is every class seems interesting so far, I actually do like the battle system, leve's have been fun so far except the mobs running away will get old eventually.

All in all it's still beta, a lot will be fixed in time, there is some cause for concern but I don't think it's hit doom and gloom status yet but it won't take much to throw it in there depending on what we see in the open beta.

[Cjskater]

How hard are Faction Leves exactly? Didn't get to do one last phase. Think I'm going to get the Iron Hoplon one since I already know what Scutum is.

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