FFXIV Random Speculation/Question thread VI: Phase 3, FFXIV is still on the rag!

[Gulkeeva]

I'm sure it slow down later solo, but I was mostly comparing it to other classes. This one level faster, and solo better than everything I tried before...especially mage class. The difference is kinda ridiculous at this point.

I'm definitively rolling pug for the release if it remain the same.

As far as I know from talking with other people, class exp goes to a grinding halt practically at Lv 20ish.

once your deep in the yellow/red zone for surplus, grouped ( 5 people 4 star lv 30 guildleve) gives anywhere from constant 0's to 80 (or less) per kill (this is considering you didn't die from something hitting you for 300-500's and you actually did enough damage for the game to consider you actually earn any class points at all)

Also.. once your physical goes red... (around lv 21-22 range) there is no escape from it, lvling another class = basically nonexistant exp)

my low lvl conj killing green con mobs

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4 star lv 30 guildleve on pug is 140-210 exp per kill with 6 people in the group.

Yeah those 2 abilities kind of underwhelming once you get victimize and use raging strike + ferocity and use vitamize that does about 450-520 (depending on mob) green con pharosfly it does that much anyway

[omegaB]

honestly i think the level 1 weapon effects pug more because they get defense applied twice, that said, i can still roll some pretty decent numbers but yeah marauder, archer can do some crazy things

[Loaar]

omegaB, what level was the Guild mark skill (Flurry)? 20?

[omegaB]

omegaB, what level was the Guild mark skill (Flurry)? 20?

i didnt even look before, but yeah its optimal rank is 40, its usable at any level though, i was 19 when i got it.

[Loaar]

Can confirm surplus isn't affected by higher level weapons in phase 3. 18 CON in my ls made a 22 wand, surplus didn't change at all.

[Kurp]

Has anyone been using battle regimes in this phase?

[Cjskater]

Other problem with guidleve's is.. you only get "physical exp" if you are "near" mobs killed.. if you don't do any damage/healing while in that combat timeframe you get no "class skill' at all.

More damage you do -> more class skill.

then that is split between all that have hit that target.

some form of reward/bonus for doing 1 solo (achievement system?)

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My friend got one that said something about Guilds, it was a Marks Leve. When he checked he only had 800 something Marks though, the "achievement" was 1000. Was also in Cederwood.

The biggest problem I have with Levequests/the game is me not being able to get points for curing myself. I spend 75% of the quest curing myself since nobody cant keep hate from a Conjurer's spells. I'm not even talking about nukes, just Shock Spikes, Cure, Protect, etc. will get me hate from all the red mobs in the area for the rest of the fight.

I basically buff before a fight, for no points mind you, then we start the fight and wait till I get hate from air slapping. When I get hate I get hit for about 200+ so I have to Cure myself, when I Cure I have to Cure again because now everything is on me. Then I repeat Curing/running till we kill them.

Also I got Fast Cast but you can barely notice it does anything, I only knew it was working when I tried Stoneskin.

[omegaB]

Can confirm surplus isn't affected by higher level weapons in phase 3. 18 CON in my ls made a 22 wand, surplus didn't change at all.

might be something you slowly build down but really it is a complete mystery to me

[Zubis]

Can confirm surplus isn't affected by higher level weapons in phase 3. 18 CON in my ls made a 22 wand, surplus didn't change at all.

lol, one completely smashed theory after another.

edit: anyone tried pushing their surplus level higher than their class level?

[Gokulo]

My friend just got an achiv for completing 10 local guild leves.

[Hyan]

You obviously don't get it, the staggering is only efficient because of the 2-day cooldown, the player-base is failing to realize how to best use the system. If the design was 'fixed' by your definition then there would be no inefficiency in what people are doing now, opting to do leves solo would be reasonable.

I don't think people should be forced to party from rank 1. Just like in FFXI you can easily solo from 1 to 12~15 using the primary progression method (in this case, GuildLeves), same should apply here.

Expecting people to group right from the get-go when they're still learning the new mechanics is simply absurd.

From say, rank 10-20 onwards the 2 day cooldown works better, Especially when you can't run out of leves in an hour(?) while at rank 1 you can do all 8 leves in that time. Even in Skull Valley all leves make you kill like 6 mobs max when they could easily add at least twice the amount of mobs to make it last longer.

[Pooky]

I don't think people should be forced to party from rank 1. Just like in FFXI you can easily solo from 1 to 12~15 using the primary progression method (in this case, GuildLeves), same should apply here.

Expecting people to group right from the get-go when they're still learning the new mechanics is simply absurd.

From say, rank 10-20 onwards the 2 day cooldown works better, Especially when you can't run out of leves in an hour(?) while at rank 1 you can do all 8 leves in that time. Even in Skull Valley all leves make you kill like 6 mobs max when they could easily add at least twice the amount of mobs to make it last longer.

What I was thinking of doing was just grinding for most of the 30 min timer, then quickly finishing the leve before the time runs out. Do you only get the increased skillpoints from leve/guardian on leve-specific mobs? Or when you have a leve active?

[Hyan]

What I was thinking of doing was just grinding for most of the 30 min timer, then quickly finishing the leve before the time runs out. Do you only get the increased skillpoints from leve/guardian on leve-specific mobs? Or when you have a leve active?

I'm not sure if guardian's favor works for non-leve mobs, but if it does that sounds like a good idea.

However, the faster you clear the leve the more bonus gil you get, and who knows if it might affect the "drop rate" of the special gear reward too. At rank 1-10, the bonus is so negligible that it's irrelevant though.

[Pooky]

I'm not sure if guardian's favor works for non-leve mobs, but if it does that sounds like a good idea.

However, the faster you clear the leve the more bonus gil you get, and who knows if it might affect the "drop rate" of the special gear reward too. At rank 1-10, the bonus is so negligible that it's irrelevant though.

There are "special gear rewards" from leves? O.o

[Gokulo]

No idea what he means.

But I don't think it works. If I remember correctly I didn't get any higher skill up from random mob killed during a leve.

[Hyan]

Well yeah, last time I heard the equipment you get from leves is not 100% drop rate?

[Tineey]

Hmmm... Control + Up + Down + Down = Game crash for me. Not sure if mentioned already.

Edit: Nvm, Control + Down crashes it for me. Not sure why when I wanna access the 2nd ctrl macro pallet it just crashes, 3 times in a row now.

[Loaar]

Well yeah, last time I heard the equipment you get from leves is not 100% drop rate?

The equipment in the reward is 100%. Chests are not 100%, but they are random, not affected by your time/performance (since they appear while the leve is active, not at the end).

Only leve mobs give additional skillups, normal mobs while under the effect of a leve don't.

[Tineey]

Apparently my macros are corrupted! Accessing them crashes the game ; ;

[Osede]

hm... anyone has experiencing the error (40000)3 ?

I'm trying to see if they have any progression on the mission part. But after the recruiting event this error just crash my game. And now I can't even login back, because it appears everytime during the loading screen