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  1. #2061
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    rancorous + gorget beats anything pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    rancorous + gorget beats anything pretty much.

    I get Gorget on Fodder, Ire+1 on mid, Justicar on high lvl. All are pretty close, probably safe to have 2 sets, one with gorget, one with justicars.

  3. #2063
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    Wasn't talking about Rancorous Mantle, you have a Rancor Mantle as well, looks like a Wyrm Beard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Wasn't talking about Rancorous Mantle, you have a Rancor Mantle as well, looks like a Wyrm Beard.

    lol thats funny. Good call.

  5. #2065
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    The madder you are, the harder you smite.

  6. #2066
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    mustela gloves +1
    Did you get those from ADL?

  7. #2067
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    mfw.

  10. #2070
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    Excepting the Magian staff, which I'm currently mid-trials for and the swifth/chelona which could both be +1s, is this the right direction for a sch stun set?
    Staff | Caecus | Incantor
    Zelus | Dark Torque | Dark Earring | Loquac.
    AF1 Body | Repartie | Archon | Balrahn's
    Swifth | Goading | ASA Aug legs | Chelona
    Legs are Haste+3/Macc+4 augmented.

  11. #2071
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    I think the ideal set is something like this:

    Staff/Arbuda/_____/Hasty Pinion
    Zelus/Dark Torque/Loquacious/Belatz (in Legion)
    Hedera's/Rubeus/Prolix/Veneficium
    Swith+1/Ninurta's/Rubeus/AF2+2 feet (with Alacrity and Thunderstorm, AF1 without)
    26% Haste
    -14% recast
    10% Fast Cast

    With the exception of Paramount Mantis, I find that the staff alone provides pretty much all the MAcc I need to land Stun reliably. I coded a higher MAcc set into my spellcast specifically for Paramount Mantis and make doubly sure to have Thunderstorm/Klimaform up for him. One notable thing from your set is that Stun isn't Dark element magic so Archon ring won't help it. Honestly, I feel the quality of the set above exceeds what is required in a Legion run with 3 SCH/BLMs that have passable sets. If you get the staff and make a moderately dedicated Stun set (which you already seem to have), you should be fine. I'd really just recommend AF1 feet, AF2+2 feet, Hedera's, and switching your ring to one that does something. Belatz doesn't hurt either. It's the best "Legion:" piece of gear, I'd say.

  12. #2072
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    So was it determined that the lack of Embrava would ruin stun locking or not?

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    It won't, but you should rotate a bard in to keep Marches up.

  14. #2074
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    Oh hey, the "Reduces spell casting time" is recast too..? BG says 5% casting time and recast, is that comparable to 5%/2.5% or 10%/5% Casting Time/Recast? Or neither..?
    I'll swap in Goliard over AF1 body if you think I won't really need the skill+ on it (Sadly I'm stuck with that whilst my mule has Hedera's ._.) and Archon ring derp >.>
    Somehow didn't consider that haste will be much much higher than fast cast (derp again) so I'll swap in a hasty pinion instead. Fuck Rubeus, shit doesn't exist.

  15. #2075
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Oh hey, the "Reduces spell casting time" is recast too..? BG says 5% casting time and recast, is that comparable to 5%/2.5% or 10%/5% Casting Time/Recast? Or neither..?
    I'll swap in Goliard over AF1 body if you think I won't really need the skill+ on it (Sadly I'm stuck with that whilst my mule has Hedera's ._.) and Archon ring derp >.>
    Somehow didn't consider that haste will be much much higher than fast cast (derp again) so I'll swap in a hasty pinion instead. Fuck Rubeus, shit doesn't exist.
    Wouldn't Avesta Bangles be better than the Rubeus Gloves? Just asking, because I'm in the same boat as well with Rubeus gear not existing...

  16. #2076
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Oh hey, the "Reduces spell casting time" is recast too..? BG says 5% casting time and recast, is that comparable to 5%/2.5% or 10%/5% Casting Time/Recast? Or neither..?
    What are you referring to? Grimoires give 10% Cast/Recast reduction.

  17. #2077
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tardevil View Post
    Wouldn't Avesta Bangles be better than the Rubeus Gloves? Just asking, because I'm in the same boat as well with Rubeus gear not existing...
    For MAcc yes, but 2 pieces of Rubeus gives some Fastcast

  18. #2078
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radec View Post
    For MAcc yes, but 2 pieces of Rubeus gives some Fastcast
    I'd take Macc 9 (Repartie + ASA) over 1~% FC.

    Also, Mibiru offers Orunmila for FC 5 over 7 dark as a more potent trade-off.

  19. #2079
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    What are you referring to? Grimoires give 10% Cast/Recast reduction.
    Yes, but the item says "Grimoire: Reduces spell casting time", which to me always meant "While under the affects of a grimoire, reduces spell casting time".

    That and I didn't know it was 10% recast and 10% casting time, I assumed it was just like fast cast (X% casting time, X/2% recast).

  20. #2080
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    Saviesa Pearl in Legion seems like a decent piece for M.Acc. too if you manage to buff up Haste and FC elsewhere and don't need more in earring slot.

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